Starting Chemo in JAN 2007
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Dar; how is work going? I have worked thru this, but I have the best boss on the planet and a desk job. I am toast when I get home, haven't been exercising as much as usual since taxol started, but am going to at least try to walk.
Mizssisy, thanks for the good advice. I am 58 so probably older than you, but not as many good ideas!
Rebecca, You were right to go with Frances and I hope she heals quickly. She probably will at such a young age. I love her name; that was my mom's name. Frances Jane.
Mary, try to be patient with the drains. Mine was still draining 45 when he took it out and I have a seroma ...
Viddie, How is the taxol going?
Lynn, Hope the fogginess clears up soon. Glad at least the nausea isn't bad.
Had my 4th taxol yesterday, in bed by 7 pm. I was so groggy. I cannot wait for this to end.
Have a good day all.
Melia -
Viddie - I get a lot of people who don't say anything just like you mentioned. The people who know me keep saying I look "wonderful" (yeah, right - I have a mirror) and people who don't know me at all typically don't say anything. It's very strange. We had an A/C repairman who was here for two days and never mentioned it. Also grocery store clerks, waitresses, neighbors I see at the playground, people in the coffee shop, etc. all say nothing. It always puzzles me. About the only place I feel comfortable anymore is in the oncs office.
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Welcome gals, it's been lonely over here under the nuke machine. Hey, where's Amera? Back in her life probably.
Whew, I just slept until AFTER LUNCH; haven't done that since I was a teenager. Couldn't sleep last night and took 1/2 an ativan around 4 am. Second ativan in a week after being off two weeks.
I was worried about a friend. Talk about life never getting boring. A month ago an old boyfriend walks in the front door, and into my happy marriage of 24 years. Shook things up a little, but things have rebalanced. HE and DH were part of my pre-marital social circle and are now buddies again, and now we have a new best friend that pops in 2 or 3 times a week. In fact, they're such good buddies that when the three of us are together, I can't get a word in edgewise. Now OB is in the midst of breaking off his first, but very shaky engagement to be married in his 50 years. Had just bought a farm in Pa with her and a 19K diamond and then she changes her mind and decides she doesn't love him. Last weekend he was so depressed I was afraid he might be suicidal, and we spent the week working on him getting him back into good spirits. Then last night he announced that she wants she him to help with the farm (even tho she doesn't love him) and she was crying, so he gave in. So here we go again!!!
Yes, my post chemo life has been stressful...strange situation for a bald middle aged 58 year old chemo patient to be dealing with. Not at all what I expected....but it will be nice to have a few weeks of quiet time to ourselves.
Life is full of surprises.
Mizsissy -
Mary, whew 7 cm is 10 times bigger than 7 mm...BUT, the entire thing had vanished after chemo,so I would still say your prognosis is great. But don't limit your options. Do the radiation...it's easy!!!!!!
Mizsissy -
Hello all:
Hey Lynn, took up your advice and I am typing this in Word and then will copy over to the discussion boards. The fresh air really helped with my nausea, and so did ginger snaps, so happy sitting outside. Dont you dare get that cold before your trip!!
Skye & Viddie, Dan & I love Vegas too, so when you go, let us know and well try to meet you down there. Ive never stayed at the Luxor, last year we stayed at the Venetian, and it was lovely with the suites for every room.
Viddie, hope your chemo goes well today, oh, and you and Tina have to remember these people actually think we are stars, thats why they are staring at us. Ask them if they want your autograph, and then sign it to my favorite Turtle Face .hahaha.
Mary, you are only having strange dreams because the Red Wings are still in the playoffs, once theyre out, theyll stop; not the hot/cold feelings, just the weird dreams. Congrats to your son on making the Deans List,!!
Rebecca, hope your daughter Frances is okay for the championships. Lots of stress eh?
Nancy, hope you are feeling better, and as for your poll Im a Kiwi, but only on the top in the front .still shiny in other spots.
Caya, is today your last chemo day? If so, wishing you all the best. As for your comment about me putting in bedding plants, it is way too early, but I couldnt wait any longer!! Oh well, maybe Ill get lucky and no more frosts!!
Mizsissy, I find out tomorrow what hormone therapy I will be on, and I also get my MRI results, so Im a bit anxious. As my Labrador is scared of thunder, Im usually trying to console him when we have a storm, so no sleeping allowed. I thought your after chemo comments were very good, and it was a lot of what the Breast Center said to me. The one thing that they did prescribe for me is Tryptophan. It is a drug/herb that assists with sleeping and relaxing. It seems to be helping, and the doctor feels it is better than taking Ativan.
Jan, good luck with your last chemo tomorrow, I will be thinking of you. Did you ever get the port? My arm is just now starting to feel better from all the chemos by IV, although my veins still look discolored.
Shorti, Im going to ask them to give me a blood test to check whether Im officially now in menopause. I did ask the doctor at the Breast Center, and she said that she would doubt that my cycle would come back.
RobbinJaye, got a kick out of your survey on hot flashes. I can always tell when its exactly 12:00 Noon, and 12:00 midnite, I get one right on the dot, along with about 20 others during the day and nite. Feel like that karate kid movie hat on, hat off. Has anyone almost pulled their wig off when they had a hot flash in public??
Caya, I didnt realize that it was against the Jewish religion to get tattoos. What about the radiation ones?
Mel, glad to hear the swelling on your legs is going down.
Cindy, I too had a mastectomy, with 1 node involved, and I will be starting radiation May 23. My margins were clear, but close.
Tina, after losing my eyebrows I dont think I would ever consider getting them tattooed on!
Melia, how was Taxol #4?
I have to tell you ladies that are working throughout this ordeal, you have big kudos from me. I dont think I could have worked through my chemo at all. My new Escape has not arrived yet, it was suppose to be here on Monday. Im just heading off for my walk, hoping to make it 3 kms today. Its nice out about 18 C (18*2 + 32 =68 F), but there is a cool wind.
Hugs to all ..
Joni
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Good afternoon ladies -
well, I'm back from chemo - and I am done like dinner!!! The nurses and my onc. loved the cookie baskets I brought, and the nurses all hugged me and congratulated me on my final chemo.
My onc. was very upbeat today - my UTI culture came back negative, he said that because I am going into instant menopause the urinary tract gets dried up quickly (atrophy) and bladder infections in general are common on Taxotere - so this too shall pass. My blood work was very good today (whatever that means), I made it through all 6 infusions without Neulasta or Neupogen shots, and he says I got the most aggresive chemo there is for my BC, and he reaffirmed my very good prognosis. I have a MUGA scan scheduled in 3 weeks, then my loading dose of Herceptin is June 7th. He wants to start me on Tamoxifen in about 2 months, and again said that unless I am BRCA 1 or 2 positive, the risk of ovarian cancer is very very low, and he does not think I should have another surgery. The gyn onc. was more inclined to yank the ovaries out, but there is no rush until I get the genetic testing back.
So I am tired, will take a nap now. I feel great right now, we'll see.
Joni, it against Judaism to deface the body with permanent marking images like tattoos- one of the reasons the Nazis happily tattooed the concentration camp victims. To save a life is the most important thing in Judasim, so of course medically essential tattoos would be okay.
So count me in the Finished Chemo Club - Jan, you'll be our next member tomorrow.
caya -
Joni and Caya
It is a very common misconception that tattoos are against the Jewish religion. The reality of it is that this myth was mostly created by Jewish mothers who did not want their children to get tattoos
The most commonly cited evidence is a passage in the Torah that forbids tattooing, but if you read it, the type of tattoos specifically forbidden are ritual tattoos done in the context of polytheistic worship, and the law is actually just an extension of the injunction against idolatry. As such it does not apply to the kinds of tattooing we do today for decoration or for medical purposes.
My own mom always said that you could not tattoo because the "body was a temple" and any changes made to this divine perfection was disrespectful to G-d. (which by the way is NOT what is said in the Torah see above!) She would go on to tell me that if I ever did change my body like that (add to or subtract from my divinely bestowed self) I would not be able to be buried in a Jewish Cemetery. Extending this logic, we can see that it would include things like earrings and medical appliances as well. I do not know ANY Jewish moms that would tell their children not to get their ears pierced or get a pacemaker because they could not be buried in a Jewish cemetery! By this logic it would also be against the Jewish religion to violate the body of the deceased in the name of organ donation! I hardly think that something of that nature would be considered sinful by anyone!
I actually got a lot of this information directly from a Rabbi (I have also done some personal research on the subject)...Just a bit of trivia from this humble (tattooed) Jew -
Yay Caya! Congrats! Enjoy your nap and feel well
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YAY Caya! Congrats on finishing. Glad all went well. My onc said the same as yours, no need for ovary removal, I'll be on Tamoxofin for about 2 or 3 years until I'm confirmed post menopausal, then switch over to AI.
Joni, hoping your MRI comes back with good results. -
The reality of it is that this myth was mostly created by Jewish mothers who did not want their children to get tattoos
I MUST BE JEWISH! -
Congrats Caya!!! Best of luck tomorrow Jan!
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Guess what I got today.... my period. I knew it two weeks ago when I had those signs of ovulation. So taxol knocked me out of the period game for 3 mos. but now w/just one month off of it, I'm back... about the only bonus is I hear it's easier to lose the weight. I was rather enjoying not getting it. I wonder if it'll go totally back to normal or if I'll now reach menopause quicker than I normally would have... guess I'll never know.
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Caya, I am so happy for you! Good job! And Jan, good luck tomorrow. Someday I will get there too.
I did book my four day mtn getaway for July when I finish. I made sure to find a nice hotel, good location, room service, right in the village and just a couple of blocks from the lake. So I have that to look forward to.
Melia -
Jan and Caya---yippee for you two. We are all getting there.
I have been reading but not posting. Not much to tell. Rads are fine-little itch and redness as I'd mentioned. I'm half way there.
I am busy with life stuff and thank goodness for that. I have most of my energy back. The kids have cello concerts and Mother's Day teas for me to attend, soccer practice, play dates, and oh yes, the DOG! He is wonderful but as you know, puppies are a lot like babies and I find I am having to schedule my outings around his walks. Unfortunately, I have mis-timed it once or twice already and have found myself up to my eyeballs in poo (sorry gals)! Unfortunately (or fortunately?) Mr. Bart has decided that I'm his favorite and now won't walk with anyone else while I'm around. This pleases my husband to no end :9 Perfect excuse for him to enjoy the dog but not put in the work. Just like when our children were young!
Anyhow, glad to hear things are moving along. Rads really are no big deal at all. You will have your energy back in no time. Oh and on a chemo related note--I have lost about 7 lbs without trying, since I finished 6 weeks ago. I really, really think it was water weight from the steroids.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there gals! -
TPPJ,
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Guess what I got today.... my period
CONGRADUALTIONS!! May I ask how old you are? I want my period to come back so bad. I don't want to start aging just yet. Can I ask if you had any hot flashes and if they went away before your period came back?
Also I may be going for the BRCA1 and BRCA2 Testing. Just don't want it to effect my daughter. Anyone with info on this subject??? -
Mizsissy, unfortunately the chemo didn't make the 7 cm tumor disappear, they just couldn't tell it was there until they cut into the tissue. Lobular cancer must be harder to define.
Rebecca- What sport does Frances play?
Joni, you always make me laugh. The Red Wings haven't started their series yet so it's not their fault about my dreams. Last night it was probably the bad play by the Tigers. Tonight, it's the Pistons, so I have lots of sports teams to keep me up.
Rebecca, you are so smart to really look into your religion. I know my husband's mother (who was Jewish) would tell him all kinds of false facts about God and really turned him off to his religion.
Caya, Congrats on finishing chemo, hope you're feeling okay.
Jan, good luck tomorrow - I am certainly wearing my camisole a long time.
Melia- the mountain getaway sounds great. What state?
We were going to go see my BIL tonight but he is not doing well.
Re my drain issue, I guess I will have to learn patience throughout this. I did less today but still have a great output. I think because they removed one drain, the other one is getter more output which the dr said could happen. I am getting better at hiding the drain. I will just go back to work and whenever the drain comes out, it does. I am not giving up my leisurely walks, however, I will not push myself like yesterday. Enjoy spring - I saw lilacs on my walk and thought of you! -
Caya, I'm so glad for you that you are done!
And yeah, Caya and Joni and anyone else, Vegas reunion would be so fun! -
Mary, so sorry about your BIL. Keep us posted.
Skye -
I just came home from a short walk; haven't been going to the gym since taxol, just seems like weekly treatments and blood tests are taking their toll. But I can tell I need exercise; I think it helps my mood.
Anyway, I cannot remember and was just wondering ... how did all of you find your bc? I had a routine mammogram in March 06, clear, then a routine pelvic/pap in Nov 06 and the dr found what turned out to be a 4 cm tumor. The radiologist showed me mammograms back to 03 and no sign of it, so it grew fast, or just didn't show up til it was so big. It sure showed up on the Nov mammogram. And I was wondering how the rest of you found yours?
I told my husband last night after my treatment that you feel great one day, then find yourself with bc and feel crummy for 6-7 months. So weird.
Melia -
Melia - My first baseline mammo showed calcifications so they suggested I come back in 6 months. When I did the area had changed so I was scheduled for a biopsy. I never felt a lump. The needle biopsy showed DCIS. I had a partial mastectomy and the path report showed 2 IDC tumors and another invasive tumor in addition to much more extensive DCIS than the MRI and mammo showed. No clear margins. So then on to a mastectomy and SNB. Finally got clear margins with that.
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Melia, I had yearly mammograms right about the first of October every year, always ok, including 2005. In late July, 2006 I found a lump while in the shower (which I hadn't felt before, though I don't know how I missed it). By the time I could get an appt. for a diagnostic mammo (they seem to be much harder to schedule than a screening one) it was October again, and they found a 3.2 cm tumor. I am not sure, in my mind, that that tumor wasn't visible before, having seen the previous mammograms. However, I decided there was no point in wasting energy investigating that, so I'll never know.
Mel -
You know what scares me? For all three of us it came on fast. I worry about the other breast and am actually thinking about having it removed. I asked my dr about that and he said I have such a low chance of spread to that one that he wouldn't recommend that I do it, that the surgical risk is actually greater than the risk of cancer showing up there. He did say I could have it done if I actually am losing sleep over the worry, but that he thinks it is totally unnecessary. So I am going to finish chemo, give myself a little time to recover, and think about it. Have you ever thought about it?
Melia -
Melia, I had a clear mammogram and ultrasound in March 06. The lump that I could feel they said was a cyst...that cyst turned out to be a 4.8cm IDC tumour in September 06.
Joni -
Did anyone get redness around where the drain goes in? My dh thinks it is just irritated from moving around, but it hurts and it's a little pink. How do you know if it's infected?
Also re mammograms, I had mine in 1/06 and nothing showed up, diagnosis 11/06 although I had some suspicions in 8/06. I felt a lump. With lobular and dense breasts, the mammogram doesn't reveal this type of cancer. So from now on, I'm insisting on breast MRI's for the other side. -
Melia,
I had a clean mammogram and ultrasound at the end of June 2006. Just routine, did not feel any lumps. I had a breast reduction on Oct. 16, 2006, and my plastic surgeon found and cut out the 1.7 cm. IDC. Had a breast MRI, another tumour light up, finally had the MRM in Dec. 2006 -this second 1.0 cm. tumour was in the breast tissue and had a 16 lymph node dissection (all clear). Just lucky for me that I had the plastic surgery then, all the doctors tell me that because of my big dense premenopausal breasts, this BC could have grown in me for another couple of years without detection - at this point it was caught at stage 1 - I don't even want to think about what could have been, - it's HER2 neu +, a more aggresive, sneaky cancer.
You can bet I'll be demanding breast MRIs for my girls - early - like at age 25.
caya -
Even though my bc was in the right breast, I chose to have both breast removed. It was a very hard decision but my mother's history told me I would be a fool if I went any other way. Actually be "flat" chested isn't so bad. I wear chamies instead of bras and feel fine with it. I really have no desire to have reconstruction either. I yam what I yam. Would like some eyebrows and lashes though!
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I never in a million years thought I would have cancer, espec. breast cancer. My breasts were quite small; I was a year late for my annual mammogram. DH & I made the trip a little outoing, went shopping near the clinic, and then stopped by. I thought, I'll be in and out of here in 10 minutes. I had to use the bathroom and annoyed the technician who had to wait for me. How my life changed from that moment on!!! The tech immediately found the lump in her initial tactile exam and seemed to nearly smirk with pleasure. I was very shocked & surprised. The more questions I asked the cagier she got and blithely let me know that I'd have to wait a week before I heard *anything*. On the way out of the building, DH asked me how it went, and I hadn't really decided what I was going to say because I didn't want to raise a false alarm, but I once we got out in the parking lot I told him they'd found a lump, but that 80% usually weren't cancerous.
Waiting for that initial result was hell...but once we found out I got on the fast track and was in surgery in a matter of days. I had a wonderful surgeon and I felt I was in very good hands.
Like you, Nancy, if I had had a mastectomy I don't think I would have opted for construction. I didn't wanted anymore cuts on my body that those that were minimally necessary, and I didn't want any foreign objects inside either...but my surgeon felt the conservative route was the safest and best route for me. So I pretty much look the same as I always did.
Mizsissy -
Melia,
I had a clear mammogram in 2004, then didn't get one in 2005. Noticed my right breast seemed to be shrinking so went to ob/gyn in August 2006, he didn't feel anything but sent me for a mammo. Had that in Oct. 2006, they didn't see anything either but did notice my breast was smaller compared to 2004. Called me back and still didn't see anything. Radiologist was not comfortable since shrinking breast is pretty rare and did an ultra sound and saw a small area of ILC. Had MRI which also showed small area and maybe more. Had mastectomy that had 7.5cm multifocal ILC. I'm getting my left breast removed in December with DIEP. ILC has a higher chance of mirroring in the other breast. -
My oncologist said pretty much the same as yours, Melia. No benefit, but I could have a bilateral if I wanted one. My surgeons both said that they would probably recommend the prophylactic on the unaffected side just because this happened once already with monthly self-exams and yearly mammos, so it could happen again. If I was inclined to go with both sides, they thought it was a good plan. So, I'm doing a bilateral.
Mel -
Melia, I had a clear mammogram in March and then found a lump in October. The lump didn't show on mammo but did on ultrasound. Scary. My surgeon thinks it might have only been there for 6 months as it was very fast growing.
I know I should still be doing self breast exams but I am scared to find something else. I figure I'm still in active treatment and I will resume them when I am done. -
Gosh, we are a vigilant group and yet some of us, including myself, ended up with pretty substantial tumors. I wish I had asked for a bilateral at the time, but I was so shell shocked. Probably still am. I think I need to mull it over for a while before I decide. I can tell I am not thinking clearly right now, way too emotional still.
Mary, watch that drain site very carefully. I had mine both out ten days after surgery, and didn't have any redness. But you are more active than I was, and I am sure that makes a diff in how much it moves around. Just keep an eye on it, and remember tomorrow is friday, don't let it go thru the weekend if you are worried.
Melia
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