Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited May 2007
    Okay, I called this morning and spoke with my tech whom actually did the tatts.

    Because my breast are a 42DD, they kind of hang over and if they were to put the tatts around my breasts, they would not be able to see the actual tatts and would not be able to line me up correctly, expecially under my arm pit. Therefore, they had to find another way of lining me up.

    I sure hope that because of this factor in the size of my breasts that this makes radiation difficult and/or imperfect!!!!!!!!
  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited May 2007
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    Hey Robbin Jaye, checked out your myspace page. Both you and your daughter looked great! Very pretty girls!





    TTPJ,

    Thank you. My baby will be 22 this July.
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2007
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    Amera, how many radiation tx are you getting. I'm supposed to get 30. Hope your skin hangs in there.




    I am getting 34 treatments and am about 15 in so far. A little itchy and red but nothing else. I may try that tan in a can that Mizsissy uses but am afraid it won't mesh well if my skin gets too sensitive from the rads. There is a list of about 6 approved lotions. I think I will ask about it. I'm sure they'll say to use it everywhere but on the rad area but that would eliminate my entire chest which would look odd, I think. Don't need to add to my already odd look, although a tan would help, I'm sure.

    Okay, off to rads. I try to get there a little early if I can. It's nice chatting with the other ladies. Most of them are there for BC and about half had chemo.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited May 2007
    OK, here's my nephew Danny with fiancee Carrie (before accident). He's out of the VMI hospital and back in the dorm, but still on crutches.

    image

    Wedding is set for the end of September at a small, storybook church in rural Virginia.

    Mizsissy
  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited May 2007
    Beautiful couple - wishing them many happy and healthy years together.
    caya
  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited May 2007
    Skye - your artwork is fantastic - so whimsical and colourful .. I always wanted to be artistic, but I can barely draw a straight line... DH is very artistic, he can sketch etc.
    I am a singer - did Kiwanis voice competitions when I was younger, also had many lead parts in high school and then community theatre musicals, let it slide when my girls were little. Now I sing in my synagogue choir - we rehearse on Tuesday nights and perform at retirment homes, hospitals etc. - Our repetoire is a mixture of Broadway tunes, old standards ( Shine on Harvest Moon, Bye Bye BlackBird, The White Cliffs of Dover), some Beatles songs, and of course Yiddish and Hebrew songs. I haven't been able to go of course this season since dx and the mastectomy, but I am hoping to go back in the fall, I'll just be on Herceptin then, and hopefully will be fine. I miss it - it's a lovely group of choir members and I also enjoy performing for the older folks, they are so appreciative.
    Looking forward to the weekend, I have two cousins from Detroit driving in to visit me, it will be nice to see them. And the weather looks like it will be good - lots of sun, warmish ( around 60F, 14 - 16C).
    caya
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited May 2007
    Skye, love your artwork. Everyone sounds good today; hope your taxol went well Viddie, and Nancy, hope you are feeling better. I agree about the weight gain; we are giving up so much right now that an extra piece of toast or scoop of ice cream is not worth worrying about at this point. We can all get back on track after all the treatments are over.

    So I am feeling like no one in the extended fam is tuned in to the fact that I am still having treatments for TWO MORE MONTHS. My kids and husband are, of course, well aware, and very sweet. But inlaws are just tuned out. I talk to my husbands parents and sisters and they never even ask anymore. Are you finding this as well? I don't expect everyone to be as obsessed as I am, but it just seems courteous to ask now and then how I am feeling. Oh well, I am really learning who does and does not care about me through all this. And one thing I have learned is that I think I care a lot more about the extended fam than they do me.

    Viddie, I am hoping my dr will do the same as yours; if blood counts are too low, just do fewer. I think I remember that the taxol only increased the odds by 3%, which is worth it to me, but missing one or two can't really reduce the overall chance of recurrance by too much.

    I am glad it's nearly the weekend. I love my lazy Sat mornings when I have the house to myself and don't have to rush off to work.

    Stay strong and well all.
    Melia
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited May 2007
    Maybe we need a chemo artists thread...OK, I'll pile in here along with you, Sharon & Skye...my website is www.lindaswift.com and I haven't really painted since last July, but I've been having fun sewing. BC intervened right as I was changing from watercolor to oil, and I never quite made the transition, so I'm kindof in outer space. Managed to sew through most of chemo. It's much less demanding than painting.

    Mizsissy
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2007

    Just beautiful Mizsissy! You and Skye were the talented ones in my design class who would whip up a masterpiece right before class, while I would spend the entire weekend covered in guache and produce nothing but grey blobs. I am so jealous.

  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited May 2007
    Your artwork and Skye's are wonderful. I got a "D" in Art in first grade from Sr. Mary Stephens. How crushing that was -- but it never got better.

    I overdid it a bit going out with my son to try to find shoes today after his return from college. I guess I now know my limits. I crashed on the couch. I have had four flower deliveries today and people calling to bring food over so that's nice. Now I am just waiting for the dr to call with the pathology report -- It's been a long wait today. I hope I don't have to wait all weekend.

    I only took two Tylenol so far today so my pain is doing well. It is killing me not to exercise. I am doing my arm exercises though. I will probably gain a lot these two weeks. My one drain is doing well and could come out but of course the other one is still going strong so I'll just wait. It is very cumbersome though with these things hanging from you! Hope you all enjoy the weekend, esp. Viddie in Vermont. I always wanted to go there!
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited May 2007
    Well, It is 24 hrs post-neulasta and I feel crummy

    I have to go sit in a classroom and give a final exam to my internet students, and I am not very happy about that. It was poor planning on my part, but nothing to be done now. So I am all dolled up and ready to roll...but I am sure that I look much better than I feel.

    I spent the day on the couch resting, so maybe that will hel p me endure. I have a percocet waiting for me when I get home........

    I have not been able to focus on the posts very well...I read them but nothing sticks. The only comment that seems to be stuck in my head has to do with eyebrows and eyelashes falling out late after chemo is over...maybe they were "dead" hairs and they are falling out because they have been pushed out by the NEW living hairs? Now THAT is an optimistic way to look at it!

    ok...off to sit in a folding metal chair for 3 hours (shudder)
  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited April 2011
    MizSissy,

    You just seem to amaze me. I just checked out your site. I do black and white dark room nature photography. I have posted on the Cybersister Photo Album thread on this site before.

    I have always wanted to oil paint on canvas, but have not gotten there yet for my dark room has taken up all my time.

    I haven't gotten my "REAL" site up yet but when I took Web Design (Dreamweaver) I made my own site of .....It's not the greatest web site for it is uncompleted and some of my links don't work everytime. I did get a A in the web design class though...


    I love the Miranda in Shadows painting.

    AWESOME!!!
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited May 2007
    Hi Robbin,

    Black and white photography is a great place to start; it's where I started. It gets you focused on composition.

    I was kind of an undercover artist; my mother was an amateur artist and taught me how to use charcoal and draw the correct the dimensions of the face and human body before I could go to school. I wanted to major in art but my father wouldn't let me; he thought if I majored in art I'd probably end up on the West Bank in Paris living a very sexually promiscuous life. So I majored in anthropology.

    Later I found out that a famous Vermont artist who was a close friend of our family's actually did go to Paris some time in the 30s and rumor has it she mothered an illegitimate child there...so that's why I couldn't be an art school major.

    My husband decided, once I was burnt out on programming, that I should be an artist. It wasn't even my idea. But it worked.

    I kind of feel I'm about as good as an artist as I am a chess player. I know the rules but not how the game is played. An old boyfriend who I knew right about the same time I met my husband recently showed up, and he's now a very successful sculptor; he's making a 6 figure salary, which makes him more successful than any of my instructors, even the nationally known ones. I recently saw the art that he hung in his house and I am totally humbled by his taste and sense of direction. His sculptures sell for $6-7K apiece and he can't make 'em fast enough to keep up with demand!!

    Well, maybe I'll learn something.

    Rebecca, your right about our thoughts getting fragmented. We finishing up. We're getting done. It's time to STOP FOCUSING ON CANCER and focus on LIFE, and I can't think of a better place to do it than with you women. You are so remarkable, and so talented and insightful...this is a great group...we just need to move forward into other discussions.

    Mizsissy
  • luckymel
    luckymel Member Posts: 643
    edited May 2007
    Skye, I just spent a fun afternoon following your links and reading your stories and reading about you. It's funny, but you have always reminded me of my sister-in-law, both in your sense of humor and in your picture. She is also a writer (started out writing bodice-ripper novels because she read one and said "I can do better than that!" and now does other things), and I find similarities in your writing styles - and I suspect if I were to talk to you in person, in your talking styles also. I'm going to send her links to some of your books and articles, see if she sees it. The art work is great fun, also. Thanks for sharing.

    Mizsissy knows I've checked out her art also - it seems we have a lot of artists in this group. Sadly, I am grossly under-talented in the artistic area. Oh, Mizsissy, your nephew and his fiancee are a lovely couple. Hope he is all healed up by their wedding date.

    Nancy, how far along are you in your taxol? I went from "this is easy" to "I can't stand this, also, but it was toward the end. And it really didn't get much worse after that, for what it's worth.

    Jan, I'm so jealous that you and goldnmom are getting together next week! I'd love to meet her - she was in my November group, and has been a good support person for me all along. And you're right, she does know her stuff. I hope one of you takes a camera so you can get a picture.

    Mary, sounds like you're doing great - be careful not to overdo but glad you're up and around. Hope that path report comes back soon, so you can quit waiting.

    Rebecca, sorry you're feeling bad, and I don't envy you three hours in a folding chair even if you weren't feeling bad.

    Melia, maybe once again it's because you look too good, that your dh's family isn't so concerned about how you're doing? I think people do tend to forget, when you look normal, that you might not be feeling so normal.

    I saw my internist this morning (again) and was down 7 lb. of fluid. Still a ways to go, but at least my legs look like legs, and I can breathe and walk at the same time. She thinks that there is no reason why I can't be ready for surgery in a month. I intend to pass that on to my PS office, first thing Monday! No rush there as she and the general surgeon are both at some conference in France, poor things. They never have nursing conferences in France...I guess because no nurses could afford to go.

    Everybody have a good weekend.
    Mel
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited May 2007
    Hello..
    Dr. Lowered my dose of taxol today somewhat. I hope it eases the pain. Mel- I just has #8 of 12, so your right it is getting towards the end and it definately builds up. Dr. said to take Tylenol cold and sinus for my sinus issue and I showed her these weird spots that were popping up on me and she said it was sun damage and I needed to not be in the sun, (say What?) I told her I bought 55spf sunscreen and she said that's fine but only go out in the early part of the day or towards dusk. Well yukkk! Just put me in a bubble why don't cha! But like we were discussing before, taxol which is made from a plant hates the sun,and therefore we have to stay out of it. isn't that ironic? LOL.
    Tina go to Imagechef.com lots of fun things there you can use. There is a tree that you can put you and your "lover's" name on and it looks like it was carved in. Cute and fun. I have a myspace too that I use that on. I only got a myspace so I could keep up with my daughter in Tucson, and keep a eye on the younger one still living here HA! My DH couldn't sit with me at chemo today, they put me in the corner and it was geriatic day or something. I felt like I was 12 yo in comparison. There was an old man in the chair next to me that snored the weirdest sounds and it was scaring me because he sounded as if he was dying. Another man peed his pants, that was weird. and a lady came in needing fluids and she was moaning and crying out for someone to please help her. She was really fine, she just kept doing that, and screaming she has never been so sick. I was glad to get outta there today. All my chemo mates that I chatted with and stuff before are done with chemo and now I got this Group. EWW! I thank God for you guys!!!!
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited May 2007
    Amera and TPPJ, thanks, yep those are what I do. The rooster/farm scene was put on some canisters and cheese crocks that got sold somewhere, the other things were done for various publishers and companies. Unfortunately the illustration biz ain't what it used to be, everyone just uses Photoshop now instead of commissioning artists.

    Lynn, I can't wait to see what you've sent us! I hope I remember not to read the form.

    I lost a few more eyelashes overnight but my brows are growing again. This is going to look really weird if it continues, I'll have beetle brows and naked eyes. Must read rest of posts, I just finished 106.- Skye
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited May 2007
    Thanks to the rest of you for your very kind comments. Mary, shame on that sister for giving a 6-year old a D in art. Every first-grader is an artist in some way and it's the teacher's responsibility to find it. At least that was always my credo as an art teacher.

    Mizsissy you do lovely work. Do you have any luck with sales from your Website?

    Mel, it sounds like your SIL is someone I'd enjoy meeting, too. It's strange where life can lead sometimes, as we all have learned. And hey, 7 pounds of fluid is a lot to lose! I'm so glad the treatment worked for you.

    Robbinjaye, I visited your Myspace, it's a lovely page and you have gorgeous hair in that photo. And I love b/w photography.

    Nancy, I hope the lower dose of Taxol helps. That description of your chemo room sounds like mine most of the time. There are always a couple of elderly men sawing logs in strange ways. Unfortunately I still get to experience it due to the Herceptin every week but at least it's not 4 hours.

    Amera, do you have the skin sensitivity only on the radiated area or does it make your whole skin generally sore?

    Caya, singing is definitely an art form. I had a music minor which I didn't quite finish but had a vocal emphasis and used to sing in church quite a bit. Now I only sing around the house but it always cheers me up. It's good for the soul, I think.

    I'm feeling good today because I got to pay back my lovely neighbor who brought me a couple of meals this winter. She had her gall bladder out and her husband doesn't cook, so I just made 2 meatloaves instead of one and brought them dinner. My son walked down the street with me and carried it. Makes me feel like I'm really getting better to be on the giving end. - Skye
  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited May 2007
    quote: eyebrows and eyelashes falling out late after chemo is over...maybe they were "dead" hairs and they are falling out because they have been pushed out by the NEW living hairs? Now THAT is an optimistic way to look at it!

    LOL Rebecca! My second good laugh for the day!
  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited May 2007
    QUOTE: have you started Herceptin yet?


    Yes, Caya, I did Herceptin from Jan. 17 to Apr. 4 w/my twelve weekly taxols. Now I do the larger dose every three weeks... I've done one of those so far. I finish next January. The long haul.... no s/e's at all though, happy to report. I began Tamoxifen about, what, 9 pills ago, too...and that's going fine as well....
  • luckymel
    luckymel Member Posts: 643
    edited May 2007
    Ok, I have a confession - the dark secret in my past. The talk of the sister giving Mary a D in art brings this up. When I was 6, I was a bashful little perfectionist overachiever, except for one black mark on my record. In those days we generally got something like "is working at grade level," "superior," or "needs improvement." I was always superior, or above grade level in all the academics. Nobody said much about my art skills in those days. But my music grade....oh my! Little Melinda, who went on to get a degree in Music Performance, got a "needs improvement" in music. I still remember why, too - I had heard some opera singing somewhere, and I thought that if I did a lot of loud "woo-woo" kind of singing, which was what opera sounded like to me, then that was better than just singing along with the words like the other kids. Guess the teacher didn't think so. When I was a little older and looked back on my report cards, I was so mortified - who knows, maybe that was what propelled me into music - to try to prove them wrong. Of course, I never did learn to sing.

    As far as art is concerned, along about 2nd grade we learned the story of Oceanus Hopkins, the first baby born on the Mayflower or after they arrived or something. I was sooooo enthralled with that little story that I drew hundreds of pictures of Oceanus...literally hundreds of them (all of a baby in a pilgrim hat). That led someone to suggest to my parents that perhaps I had artistic talent...so they signed me up for art lessons. The first day, I couldn't think of anything to draw (couldn't draw, actually) so the art teacher showed me a teddy bear and said maybe I could draw that. Draw that I could...I drew that teddy bear over and over and over, through I don't know how many weeks of art lessons, until they all gave up and decided I was never going to be an artist.

    What I actually always thought I could do was throw pots. I think that's in my soul somewhere.

    Mel
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited May 2007

    Ha, what is happening I have snowy white hair coming in too? Are we going to be tripping over each other in the hair color aisle or what? Why do you think we are all going white? I was told about the curls, but not the white part! LOL

  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited May 2007

    I have had this white fuzz all along. I do not see anything new coming in. I think I'm the only one here who did chemo first then surgery. I wonder if the shock from the surgery will set back my hair growth? The dr called late last night to say the path report was not on the computer yet but she didn't want me to think that she had forgotten about me. What a wonderful, normal person she is. So here I wait. She said she'd check today but it would probably be Monday. I didn't sleep very well - not sure if it was the test results looming over me or my drains bothering me. I am not sure what to feel and I am confused. If there is cancer in the lymph nodes and I have already had chemo what is the next step? More chemo? Or radiation and Tamoxifen? Will that be enough? I guess only the oncologist can tell me what they normally do when the chemo comes first. I really don't want to go through another round of chemo right now. Is that why they leave the port in because your path report might warrant more chemo? I'm very confused.

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited May 2007
    Hi Mer,

    I was just thinking how TOTALLY AMAZING it was that your tumor had disappeared by the time of surgery. That's great. The reason they do chemo before some surgeries is to shrink them; in your case, the tumor was very vine like, so it would have made surgery more difficult.

    Of course you are nervous about your path report; it is probably standard procedure, but I would think in your case the chemo worked so miraculously your path report will probably be fine...

    Hang in there!!!!

    Hey...we've got to get together & go biking sometime. I have to wait until after radiation, another month or so tho..

    Mizsissy
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited May 2007
    Mel that is hilarious about the baby pilgrim and the teddy bear. I have always wished that I could draw...and sadly I have very little ability in that area. I have other artistic tendencies...most of which are dormant right now. I have taken black and white photos (done the whole darkroom thing as well) I do color photos now. I can MAKE things like macrame, crochet, stained glass, mosaics etc. I also have WRITTEN things...I used to write a lot of poetry. Right around the time that I was diagnosed I had started to hear my muse whispering in my ear again and I was very excited to start creating again. Unfortunately I have found that chemofog and poetry do not work well together. Maybe as my head clears I will hear the whisper again. I am going to be off of work until the middle of July, and my personal goal is to write something meaningful.

    Mary...that wait for the pathology report is downright agonizing. I called my Onc and my Surgeon like 25 times . Eventually they BOTH called me back (after hours, no less) to give me my results. Hang in there and keep us posted. Oh, and the drains are a drag...I felt like a new woman when they yanked mine! I was ready to run laps (comparatively speaking)
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited May 2007
    My grandfather was a really good artist and sold his paintings for a living. That talent skipped my mom and went to my sister...No art talent for me. My dad was a really good singer and always did Gilbert and Sullivan Operetas (I know Mikado by heart)...his talent also was passed down to my sister who sang a lot in high school and did a couple things beyond...no singing talent for me. I like to LOOK at art and LISTEN to music!

    Mary, when I went for my post op on Friday, the surgeon was appalled that the path report wasn't in. Argh, I had to wait the weekend. Then, much to my surpise, he called me on Saturday with the path results. You just never know. As far as needing more chemo, my girlfriend had to do chemo before surgery like you. Hers didn't completely disappear so she did still have cancer with her surgery. She didn't have to do anymore chemo, just radiation because she had a lumpectomy.

    I think my hair is falling out again...I am so bummed! Looked on my pillow to see a bunch of little tiny hairs this morning.
  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited May 2007
    Hello all:

    I had my Rad simulation yesterday, and I have India ink all over my mastectomy area, right under my arm, and up to my neck. They also gave me 4 permanent tattos, and thanks Amera, they didn't hurt. A little sting, and it was done. Are we not suppose to wash the india ink off? I have lots of boxes made from India ink, what did everyone else do?

    The sun came out today!! It's not going to be really hot, but after 3 days of rain, I need the sun. Dar is lucky she's on holidays as Red Deer got 66 mm of rain yesterday, we got 37. Suppose to be really nice this coming week, so might start planting some flowers!!

    My niece (and goddaughter) and nephew-in-law are taking the whole family out to brunch tomorrow. Sarah & Doug. Doug's parents are in town. They live in Peace River, which is Northern Alberta...should be nice. They were married May 20, 2006, and they both looked beautiful. Here's a little slide show of thei wedding pics:

    http://bigshow.bigfolio.com/?s=000001816&t=2d043856dc8b6e0bf94ccaab2eca237b


    I am going to a luncheon out in Bragg Creek on May 15th. It's a beautiful spot just west of Calgary, and after the luncheon, (2 friends), we are going to hike up to Elbow falls.

    By the way, I don't start my official radiation until May 23 (two more weeks). The doctor wants to make sure that I'm over my chemo prior to starting.

    Hope everyone has a nice day.

    Monday it's 3 weeks since my last chemo, and no sign of hair, eyelashes or eyebrows yet. Getting kind of anxious to see some sprouts!!

    Have a great weekend.

    Joni
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007

    Mary - I don't know the answer to any of your questions but I sure hope you get the path results soon. I think that waiting is by far the worst part of this whole experience. My surgeon called me on a Sunday morning (xmas eve) with my results. So maybe you will hear something over the weekend. I hope that it's all good news. Try if you can to keep you mind off of it until then.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Graduation went well, here's a pic:

    image
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2007

    Jan, what a great picture! You look fabulous. Good choice on the scarf. It looks more like a fashion accessory than a bald head cover!

  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2007
    I was at the gym today and two women approached me. They have a friend who is just now losing her hair from chemo. She lives in my town. They wondered if she could call me. I said of course. I really feel grateful for this board. I cannot imagine going through this alone.

    I have met several women at radiation who clearly knew no one going through this before now. I actually get there a little early because it's so nice to chat with them.

    I am really beginning to wonder if maybe there's something in the water around here as I have met at least a dozen women who have had BC. I'm sure there are more. However, I suppose if it's 1 in 8, then all towns have a few. Really makes you wonder.

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