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  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited April 2007
    Round #1 went fine! SO FAR!!
    We will see how the Nuelasta goes.

    Boy what a difference five years makes...they had no emmend or aloxi then.

    Good luck to day Pam!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2007

    G - Are you doing the drugs sequentially or the Adriamycin + Cytoxan and then a taxane? Is it dose dense?

  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited April 2007
    sequentially and it is dose dense.

    Adria every two weeks, taxol every two weeks and cytoxan every two weeks.

    I just got the Nuelasta today. They didn't have that five years ago either!
    I know it is meant to cause bone pain I think.
  • newter
    newter Member Posts: 4,330
    edited April 2008
    NS, I don't know if I was lucky or what, about a week after the first Neulasta shot I had some back pain. The next time I had treatment I was so worried that I did not do the shot right (we did it at home) because I had no pain. The rest of my treatments went like that, really no side effects at all from the Neulasta and it worked so well. My white counts never went down to where I had to postpone a treatment. Plus I stayed pretty healthy during all my treatments. I had one sore throat/cold and that was about it and I had 2 kids in school bringing home all kinds of fun germs.

    Newter

    edited for grammar & spelling errors
  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited April 2007

    Thanks for that! Maybe I will be lucky!!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2007
    I used Neupogen instead of Neulasta and did pretty well. For about 2 days into the series of injections, I got some hip/lower back/upper femur pain, but ibuprofen took care of it completely. And I, too, had good white counts throughout and never got any colds or infections. It was completely worth it!

    Marin
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited April 2007
    Gina I'm so glad so far so good for you and isn't it amazing all of the new things that are there for you now to help you thru your treatments. Thank heavens for that!
    When you did A your first time did you do it every 3 weeks or 2 like you are doing now?
    When I was diagnosed the first time I did ACT every 3 weeks and had a pretty hard time but my daughter's schedule is so different that she has been able to tolerate these meds much better. She does Taxol once a week for 12 weeks and really has no complaints other than being a little tired after tx.

    Blue16-My Onc visit yesterday turned into a nightmare. My Onc was home sick so I saw an "associate" of his, not sure of his credentials but I left in tears.
    Thru this nightmare visit I did ask him about how they can know if getting c in the other breast is a new primary, recurrance or mets. and he said "well they really can't be sure if it is a new primary or recurrance". Lovely.
    Whether this guy knows what he is talking about is an issue I'm trying to put behind me but when I go back again and see my regular Onc I will for sure ask him. I want to hear what he thinks and I'll let you know.
  • blueskies
    blueskies Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2007
    Hi, I was first diagnosed four years ago with bc in my right breast. I now have a recurrence/new primary (onc isn't sure) on the skin of my left breast. Stage 111C.

    I am about to start Xeloda for this and am just hoping it works.

    love
    Sue
  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited April 2007
    Pam, I had CMF the first time. So this A is new for me. I get it every two weeks.
    About that onc....that is terrible!
    They knew that mine was a new primary because my type and receptor changed. But usually they go by the opposite breast is a new primary and in the same breast a regional recurrance.

    Sue, I hope you get through the Xeloda. I wanted to take that! I hear it kicks major butt. Good luck!

    Marin, I am glad your counts stayed high. This neulasta hurts like the dickens!!
  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited April 2007
    G~ Just a trick to try with the neulasta pain....I had a LOT of pain in my long bones in my legs and in my spine. I hated feeling drugged all the time, so when I was not taking pills I would alternate hot and cold packs. The heating pad was as hot as I could stand it for about 15 minutes, and then I would do an ice pack wrapped in a light-weight towel for about 15 minutes. I had a nurse tell me this trick, and it really helped me. The theory is that it somehow "short circuits” the nerves and they quit giving pain impulses for a while.

    I also had healing touch and Reiki treatments that helped the bone pain probably more than any other type of pain. It seemed to get rid of the really bad “hot-spots” of pain. I would still have the aches, but the intense pain was much better.

    Have you ever taken Neurotinin? It really helps a lot of people with bone pain. I don’t think it is a narcotic (not sure though). Maybe it is something you could take.

    Hope you are getting some rest.

    Hugs
    Deb c
  • kiwicaroline
    kiwicaroline Member Posts: 7
    edited April 2007

    Gosh there are a lot of us. I was first diagnosed in 1999 aged nearly 32. stage 2 grade3 er/pr+++ nodes clear. I had a partial mastectomy all nodes removed, radiation, 6mths CMF and 5 years Tamoxifen. Now nearly 8 years later I have had a reccurrence stage 2 grade3. 5 tumours, 17mm,13mm,12mm,11mm and 5mm. Mastectomy with immediate tramflap reconstruction and am about to start zoladex for 2yrs to shut down overies. possible genetic testing as I am adopted I dont have any family history details. My adopted Mom was diagnosed with BC 2002 and passed awy 2005 after a 3 year fight.

  • BoxerMom987
    BoxerMom987 Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2007
    This is kind of long, so I apolgize in advance. I consider myself to be a 24-year survivor but there have been a few bumps in the road over that period of time. Maybe I can give some hope to others who read this.

    1983: First dx at age 33. Had never had a mammogram & found the lump myself. I have to rely on my memory for details because, at that time, I just wanted to get the thing out of me and be done with it forever. I had a lumpectomy (a new procedure back then!) and lymph node removal. I don’t remember if any nodes were involved or not. Immediately after surgery I received what was called an interstitial boost of radiation. (Similar to today's mammosite or brachytherapy I think.) That was followed by 30 days of external radiation. I had no chemotherapy and I’m not sure whether or not they even tested for ER/PR pos/neg back then. After finishing rads I went on with my life not really thinking about the possibility of ever having b/c again.

    1996: Annual mammo found it this time, in the other breast. 1.1cm IDC with 3 of 19 nodes positive, Stage IIA. Had another lumpectomy, then chemo (A/C), 30 days rads, then more A/C. Okay, I’ve done it twice now so that’s enough, right? Wrong.

    2003: Annual mammo found it again, back in the original 1983 breast. 4cm IDC, Stage IIIB. Had a mastectomy with immediate TRAM recon. Chemo with Taxotere. Had final chemo in Feb 2004. Finished, right? Wrong again.

    2004: Three months after last Taxotere I noticed some small nodules near the TRAM recon and under my remaining breast. They were about 1cm in size and were dx'd as a cutaneous recurrence. I started taking Xeloda which was very effective for me; it really reduced the nodules a lot. I then had chest-wall radiation along with hyperthermia treatments. Unfortunately the hyperthermia caused a serious burn on my Tram recon so it was discontinued. (The burn took 14 months to heal & was yucky.) Finished rads in Nov 2004 and have been disease free since Jan 2005. I do have a mild case of lymphedema, but that’s another story.

    I'm also a triple-negative, and I consider bc to be a chronic condition that I have to deal with. I have follow-up exams every 3 months right now but starting in June it will only be every 6 months. So far, so good! I go to Duke University, which is a wonderful facility, but every time I have to go back it brings back all the memories and reminds me that it could happen again. In my everyday life I don’t think about it that much at all, fortunately.

    Trina
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2007

    Gosh Trina - you are a 20+ year survivor!

  • dianxrsizn
    dianxrsizn Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2007

    Wow, I do not know if so many of us with reoccuring BC is comforting or really scarey! First time was 1992, rt. breast. I had a lumpectomy and radiation. Second occurence was in 1999 rt. breast again. I had a mastectomy w/immediate tram flap reconstruction, and then chemo. I was not put on tamoxifen even though both times I was estrogen positive. I had a hysterectomy in 1983 for lestions, adhesions, and severe endometriosis so I was not really producing estrogen. Plus I have a neuromuscular disease and a neurological disease. I exercise several hours a day to help prevent the progression of these diseases and am prone to blood clots. Third time, December, 2006, left breast. I had a mastectomy and an expander. I am currently taking Arimidex. I should mention all three times my lymph nodes have been clear. I have been lucky that it was caught early. All 3 times invasive ductal carcenoma. I really am not doing well with the medication because it really affects the symptoms of the other diseases ... bone pain, fatique, nerve pain, etc. I am determined to stick with it as long as possible! I am going to be 57 years young on Tuesday and still have alot of living to do! This is my first post so I hope I did this correctly. Love and light, Dianne

  • blueskies
    blueskies Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2007
    Trina, what an inspiring story! I too have subcutaneous nodules and I'm hoping Xeloda works as well for me as it did for you.

    Thank you for sharing your story with us. I feel better for reading it.

    love
    Sue
  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited April 2007
    Thank you everyone for sharing your stories! You are all such inspirations!

    There is an old saying that says "When you break a bone it grows back stronger than any other bone in your body"

    I believe that is us. We may have had to hear the words "You have cancer" more than once...or twice...or more! BUT we get stronger with each healing and every time we beat the Beast we really piss him off- which makes me the happiest!

    Love,
    g
  • Mazy1959
    Mazy1959 Member Posts: 1,431
    edited May 2007

    I guess I should share my story also. First time in 2003,I had ILC stage 2, lumpectomy, 2of 9 nodes pos, ER pos. Took A/C and rads. This time in Dec 2006 mets in spine on 5th lumbar, stage4, ER pos HER-. I am taking Aromasin and Zometa and percocet for pain. I had rads also.

  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited May 2007
    Hey g-
    Just dropping by with a hug. You hang in there girlfriend. Rest, drink, rest some more. I wish we could help more....

    Deb C
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Mazy..That sucks. I hope you stick around here and find some support and good info. The ladies on the mets board are awesome too, as you probably already know.

    G....How's it going? I thought of you yesterday when I was having myself a scare at my follow-up mammo. Really thought I'd be joining y'all with a recurrence and wondered how I could possibly be as brave and as upbeat as you've been. It seems I don't have to, at least on this go-around, but you're such an inspiration anyway!

    Marin
  • Jayne1956
    Jayne1956 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2007
    Diagnosed October 2004 with IDC Stage IIb. Multi focal, mastectomy, 4 out of 11 nodes positive. TRIPLE NEGATIVE. Had 4 AC followed by 4 Taxol, followed by 25 rads. Finished all treatment end of August 2005.

    Early March 2007, no symptoms at all, feeling fantastic and healthy.... I had a nightmare and woke up in a cold sweat.. dreamt that the cancer had come back.. 2 weeks later annual physical with family doctor... bloodwork comes back a bit wonky, slightly elevated liver enzymes... 2 days later scans confirm mets to liver, bone and lung. Had first Carboplatin/Pamidronate treatment on April 17th, next one is May 8th. I am still having lower back pain that won't go away. So afraid that treatment is not working. Will have scans after 2nd treatment. If it comes back with bad news, I don't think I will be able to cope.

    I am still in shock and finding it hard to have any hope... I just don't know how to get there. Hope seems a long way off right now.
  • RobinTN
    RobinTN Member Posts: 654
    edited May 2007
    Jayne:believe me I understand.I have IBC stage 4.Was NED april - aug last year then it came back in the liver with 12 area my onc gave me 2 months if he couldnt control it.But now I am down to 4 area and will have a repeat ct next month to see if more are gone.
    You hang in there you hear me and dont you give up.
    I am here for you any time you need to talk just send me a pm.Take it one day at a time and talk to your onc about your continued back hurting.I will be praying for you if I may?.
  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited May 2007
    Mazy, I am so sorry. Can they do rads to the spine mets? I hope you aren't in too much pain, although it sounds like it. I hope your treatments get you stable and back to NED!

    Deb, you help me every day in so many ways! You are like a hero to me.

    Marin, oh no, follow-ups can be terrifying! I am SO GLAD you are still NED! The thing I used to hate about going back for mammos was that it was like returning to the scene of the crime.... that was the place they found my cancer. Now that I have had the bilat I hope I never have to go back there again because that is where they found the second one! Golly I hate that place!

    Jayne, you dreamt it was back and it was? OMG - a nightmare come to life... PLEASE don't give up hope. There are SO MANY THINGS OUT THERE- so many NEW treatments... you just have to be nimble and stay two steps ahead at all times... and you will!

    Robin, look at how you have improved! I am praying for STABLE next and then NED!!
  • lastminuteD
    lastminuteD Member Posts: 333
    edited May 2007
    It's been a busy month and I realized I hadn't updated you guys with where I am now.

    The pet scan came back clear except for the reconstructed breast! What a relief.

    Had surgery on 4/27 - surgeon went in four times but did get clean margins and took a slice of muscle and implant to get it!

    Saw my oncologist on 5/4 - stage 2 this time - recommending chemo and radiation this time. Having a medi-port placed tomorrow and scheduled for a muga scan 5/15. See the oncologist again on 5/21 to schedule first chemo etc. Hoping for first one by the end of the month - I go with the motto, you gotta get it started if you want to get it done!!

    Enjoy the weather!!
    Dawn
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited May 2007
    Dawn that is great news your pet scan came back clear!

    I hope the port placement goes smoothly for you.
    It probably makes you feel better to see soon you will
    know your treatment schedule, that is a kind of relief, isn't it?

    I had my bilateral and port put in about 4 wks ago but had complications so it has delayed getting chemo for me but I see my Onc the end of this month and hopefully we can get started.
    I'm like you, let's get the show on the road!
  • leahchey
    leahchey Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2007

    hey my moms bc just came back after 1 year of remission. Has anyone heard of it coming back in the internal mammary nodes? And does any one know about faslodex hormone treatment? My mom is 57.And shes everything to me! please help!! Thanks Leah.

  • ferq
    ferq Member Posts: 68
    edited May 2007

    It was 16 years ago in my 30's I was dx the first time. I had mast with 7 rounds of CMF. I never lost my hair or got sick at all. I had IDC about 2 cm with negative nodes and was er/pr positive. This last dx was stage 1.. 9mm of IDC and DCIS. I went for lumpectomy, SNB, 4 rounds of TC, rads and now on femara. My last chemo was in late Sept and I still don't have enough hair growth on my head to go topless. This was the worst treatment for me because I don't think I am ever going to look or feel normal again. I'm not bouncing back like I did 16 years ago but then again my body is older and my treatment harsher.

  • ferq
    ferq Member Posts: 68
    edited May 2007

    Oh yeah meant to add last dx was also er/pr positive.

  • atdec05
    atdec05 Member Posts: 37
    edited May 2007
    Hi,

    Just saw this group, so I'll add my story:
    9/2005 IDC stage 1 er/pr-,her2+
    had lumpectomy, then mastectomy after margins not clear
    4 dose dense AC followed by 1 year Herceptin
    had recurrence in dermal lymphatic on last month of Herceptin
    am currently during rads followed by scans and will probably do Taxol & Herceptin

    - Anna
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited May 2007
    Oh Deb, after 16 years! I'm so sorry you're having a hard time bouncing back this time. Is your hair coming in thinner or is it just slower coming back?
    I worry about the same thing, I'm older, well 4 yrs older, 60 now and my body has changed so who knows but we've still got to conquer this beast.
  • ferq
    ferq Member Posts: 68
    edited May 2007
    Pam,
    My hair is very fine on top where you can still see my scalp. I never had extremly thick hair before bc but never was it as fine as this..I really shouldn't complain about the
    hair issue because we can live without hair but just gets old having to worry with headcoverings all the time. My prayers go out for each and everyone. (((hugs)))

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