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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    It was good giggle material. Yet, even while I laugh I'm thinking of how nuts the majority of Reps actually are. They have become almost scary. Now that many don't worry so much about staying hooked to the waist with the Loon, in some ways they are even worse. While he was around more I saw it more as group in-sanity under is direction. Now that he is gone and the Reps. at times drift away, it is just insanity and maybe worse that way.

    It is hard to tell with that bunch. If they do have a epiphany ( and it is always possible ) it may really be something. You would however, have to be willing to recognize how far gone you really were and that would be pretty hard to do for some. There is some hope on my part, but I do realize it would call for a whole complete and very total overhaul of the Reps. party. That too seems like it is something that may be hard to accept.

    Well that said, those chuckles now and then are precious and will keep me from going to the attic and doing anything to myself. On a lighter note: thank God I don't have an attic in my house. It would likely be a real source of temptation.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    Eighteen months ago today, rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress from counting the electoral votes that would make Democrat Joe Biden president. Thanks to the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, we are learning more about just how deep that plot ran, and more evidence is dropping almost daily.

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    Eighteen months ago today, rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress from counting the electoral votes that would make Democrat Joe Biden president. Thanks to the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, we are learning more about just how deep that plot ran, and more evidence is dropping almost daily.

    Yesterday, for example, Politico revealed a two-minute trailer for the documentary about the Trump family by British filmmaker Alex Holder. With extraordinary access to the family, Holder witnessed what the trailer portrays as the attempt of the Trump family to create an American dynasty, and its determination to hold onto power even if it meant the destruction of American democracy.

    Today, Maggie Haberman and Luke Broadwater of the New York Times reported that the committee has secured an agreement with Trump's White House counsel Pat A. Cipollone to testify in a videotaped, transcribed interview. Last week's testimony by Cassidy Hutchinson put great pressure on Cipollone to testify. She said that she and Cipollone had had several conversations about the illegality of the things Trump and his chief of staff Mark Meadows were doing.

    She recounted Cipollone's determination to prevent Trump from going to the Capitol with the rioters he sent there, alleging that if Trump went, Cipollone said, "We're going to get charged with every crime imaginable." He also insisted that Trump must call off the rioters, even after Meadows said the president didn't want to.

    He will testify privately the day after the January 6 committee's next public hearing.

    There is movement on other issues surrounding the attempt to overturn the 2020 election, as well. Yesterday, a Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury issued a subpoena for Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), among others, and today Graham's lawyers said they will challenge the subpoena. They say the investigation is a "fishing expedition" and that any information it turns up would go straight to the January 6th committee. They assert that as then-chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Graham "was well within his rights to discuss with state officials the processes and procedures around administering elections."

    The subpoena refers not to processes and procedures around administering elections, of course, even if it were in fact appropriate for a senator from South Carolina to ask questions about such procedures in Georgia. It refers to at least two phone calls Graham made to Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger or his staff in which Graham apparently asked about "reexamining certain absentee ballots cast in Georgia in order to explore the possibility of a more favorable outcome for former President Donald Trump." And, in November 2021, Graham admitted he reached out not only to officials in Georgia, but to those in Arizona and Nevada as well.

    This outreach had nothing to do with the Senate Judiciary Committee; Graham was plainly working for Trump's campaign. Further undercutting this argument is that it is not the Senate Judiciary Committee that oversees elections; it is the Senate Rules Committee.

    Former federal prosecutor Shanlon Wu tweeted that Graham is challenging the subpoena on the grounds that the grand jury is working for the congressional committee, and thus the subpoena will "erode the constitutional balance of power and the ability of a Member of Congress to do their job." Wu said the legal course is as follows: Graham's challenge will lose in state court and then his lawyers will try to get a federal court to stop the enforcement of a state subpoena. Wu said that the Supreme Court is unlikely to agree that the state of Georgia is a branch of the federal government. He called it "an arrogant[,] pompous and legally weak argument from Graham [that] should be slam-dunk rejected by any court that hears it."

    Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA) was more succinct. He tweeted: "It's a subpoena. Not a request to RSVP."

    There are more subpoenas in the news. Today, New York state judge Arthur F. Engoron held Cushman & Wakefield, the real estate firm that valued the Trump properties under investigation by New York attorney general Letitia James, in contempt of court for failing to comply with subpoenas about the valuation of certain Trump properties. A spokesperson for the company says that the company has gone to "extreme lengths" to comply with the subpoena, although it has not managed to produce the documents yet. The delay of the documents is crucial because Trump and two of his children are scheduled to testify about the valuations next week under oath.

    The firm will be fined $10,000 a day until it provides the documents the subpoenas require.

    What all these demands for information under oath do is establish what really happened, in contrast to the false narratives political operatives have spun in front of television cameras and on the internet, where they are not bound by any requirement to tell the truth.

    The slow accumulation of facts over fiction might well become a financial crisis for those who participated in Trump's narrative. The Fox News Corporation, One America News Network, and Newsmax are currently facing multibillion dollar lawsuits from Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, a voting machine company and an election software company, that those channels claimed had stolen the 2020 election for Biden.

    Smaller companies OAN and Newsmax are financially vulnerable to lawsuits alone, to say nothing of an adverse judgment, but according to an article by Adam Gabbatt in The Guardian, FNC has more to worry about than money. We already know that FNC hosts and White House officials were in contact about the January 6 insurrection, and in the discovery phase of a lawsuit, FNC could have to hand over documents that might tell us more about that connection.

    Angelo Carusone, chief executive officer of Media Matters for America, told Gabbatt: "I think once you start to pull the discovery material, what you're going to find is there was a lot of communication between the Trump people both internally and externally about pushing very specific lies and narratives."

    The role of fact versus narrative is on display elsewhere in our government as well.

    Both the Organization of American Historians and the American Historical Association, the flagship organizations of professional historians in the U.S., along with eight other U.S. historical associations (so far), yesterday issued a joint statement expressing dismay that the six Supreme Court justices in the majority in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health decision that overturned Roe v. Wade ignored the actual history those organizations provided the court and instead "adopted a flawed interpretation of abortion criminalization that has been pressed by anti-abortion advocates for more than thirty years." Although the decision mentioned "history" 67 times, they note, it ignored "the long legal tradition, extending from the common law to the mid-1800s (and far longer in some states, including Mississippi), of tolerating termination of pregnancy before occurrence of 'quickening,' the time when a woman first felt fetal movement."

    The statement focuses less on politics than on the perversion of history, noting that "[t]hese misrepresentations are now enshrined in a text that becomes authoritative for legal reference and citation in the future," an undermining of the "imperative that historical evidence and argument be presented according to high standards of historical scholarship. The Court's majority opinion…does not meet those standards."




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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    When we love a person, we accept him or her exactly as is:
    the lovely with the unlovely, the strong along with the fearful,
    the true mixed in with the façade, and of course, the only
    way we can do it is by accepting ourselves that way.

    Fred Rogers

  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
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    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    Love the last two memes.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    This man is a total joke. But then we all know where they can end up at times. We so need to vote in huge numbers.

    May be an image of text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot Herschel Walker isn't an absentee father. His children can see him any time they want. All they have to do is turn on the TV and he's right there denying they exist.'

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited July 2022

    That would require the beer-belly-bubba's to pass the physical requirements.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited July 2022

    And the mental requirements too.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    Gas prices where I live are definitly going down.

    May be an image of text that says 'Gas prices have declined 21 days in a row, which means Fox News is about to discover a migrant caravan in about 10 hours. OCCUPY DEMOCRATS keithedwards'

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    He's got a real point here:


    May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'Guy Matthews @trotsrabbledogs "Socialists just want free stuff." I want the stuff stuff our taxes are supposed to pay for. I don't want my hard-earned disappearing into the pockets of the wealthy. I want education, healthcare, roads, transport, justice and protection. I've fucking paid for it. Give me it.'

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited July 2022

    Love the Foghorn Leghorn meme as well as the others.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    If everyone were clothed with integrity, if every heart were just, frank, and kindly, the other virtues would be well-nigh useless, since their chief purpose is to make us bear with patience the injustice of our fellows.

    Moliere

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    Definitely going to have to do well in the up-coming election cycle.

    May be a Twitter screenshot of 1 person and text that says 'Elizabeth Warren @ewarren This extremist Supreme Court has a legitimacy crisis on their hands. They are substituting their unpopular personal views for the law & making Americans pay the price. But they don't get the last word. Congress must step in to protect our democracy from this rogue Court.'

    I never expected to see the court go so rogue as it has and it is in dire need right now. Hope we are able to do what is needed.

  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
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  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
    edited July 2022

    In Michael Flynn is a traitor news from the Washington Post:

    Investigators determined that Flynn received nearly $450,000 from Turkish and Russian interests in 2015, including for an appearance in Moscow alongside President Vladimir Putin, but found no records that he had sought government approval beforehand. Their findings are detailed in a January 2021 memo to the Army released through the Freedom of Information Act on Thursday. [Army reviewing investigation into Michael Flynn's dealings with Russia, foreign firm]

    The Army notified Flynn in a May 2 letter, obtained by The Washington Post, that it would seek to recoup $38,557.06 from him, zeroing in on money and in-kind compensation he received for a gala dinner celebrating the 10th anniversary of RT, the Kremlin-run news agency. Putin sat beside Flynn at the event and later told NBC News that he "didn't even really talk to" him.

    Flynn did not respond to a phone call and emails seeking comment. Craig R. Schmauder, an Army lawyer, wrote in the letter that Flynn's failure "to obtain the approvals of the Secretary of the Army and the Secretary of State resulted in a violation of the Emoluments Clause," a provision of the U.S. Constitution that prohibits retired military personnel from receiving money from foreign governments without prior authorization. "When there is a finding that a military retiree has violated the Emoluments Clause, the United States Government may pursue a debt collection," Schmauder wrote to Flynn. Schmauder added that the Army was requesting that the Defense Financing Accounting Service "seek recoupment from you of a debt in the amount of $38,557.06." It was not clear why the Army sanctioned Flynn for the Moscow visit but not his other work

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited July 2022

    I know who needs to be locked up, and it's not Hillary Clinton!

  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
    edited July 2022

    Sometimes I come across something and I want to believe it’s not real. I hope that this is the case.

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    Cardplayer, I could not agree more. A good many of us ( I'm at the top of the list for sure ) have faced the fact we are not Einstein's. The guy above is completely nuts. I can't figure out what he even means about Democrats not having our own pledge of allegiance. No one ever told me their was more than one. I think he needs to sit down and discover some facts he appears right now NOT to have.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2022

    With respect to a sixth grade education, sadly, I can believe it. I have always felt that there was a certain level of ambivalence about education in the US. Get a higher education? You may be dubbed an elite! Want to aspire to something more than the way you were raised? If it was good enough for your parents it should be good enough for you!

    Although it was once possible to make a decent living with only a high school diploma, that is increasingly not the case. Whether university or some other type of post high school training, times have changed. Yet we still have far too many citizens who not only don’t value education but are often suspicious of the educated. My former in laws loved to tell me about HS grads or even drop outs who got rich, as a way to point out that higher education was a waste of time. They called the educated egg heads and delighted in pointing out that they often had bad table manners 🤦🏻♀️.

    Higher education doesn’t have to be college but in this day and age most people need skills beyond high school.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2022

    Ruth..Huge guffaw on that one.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited July 2022

    Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh is forced to escape D.C. steakhouse with his security detail after pro-choice protesters 'harassed' him during dinner and told the manager to throw him out

    Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was forced to sneak out of a Washington D.C. steakhouse this week when he was confronted by pro-choice protesters

    Bwahahaha!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10995259/...

  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
    edited July 2022

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