I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!
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Pupmom -- some things are never a surprise when it is Fox. I did hear that ( and the news came out quite late ) that the 1/6 Committee hired a big well-known producer ( documentary type ) to especially do this first showing for the 1/6 committee. It seems to have flummoxed the Reps. who were not ( I think neither were a lot of us ) expecting it. This would certainly explain what was meant when we were told that people were going to be flabbergasted by the amt. of materials and backed up evidences that the committee were able to gather. Expected that we would all be blown away -- so perhaps the committee planned early on to make things so deeply pervasive that a lot of the people who might otherwise not get it, actually will. If it is on all networks ( save Fox ) and able to be pin-pointed and high-lighted by special production measures ( something the committee would not be likely good at producing on their own ) then we might reach those who need to be reached.
I hope this as well, will encourage continued viewing each week. We do have to do as much as we can since Stephanic and other Reps. are going to have a counter-narrative. I do think though that the committee has a great chance of being much more effective because they will not only be telling the truth about 1/6 but will also likely confirm for anyone still on the fence what took place for sure. For me, the truth has always been there. It does not hurt that many on the Reps. side are getting tired of the Loon helping them lose. They know it, but have walked a fine line trying to keep his voters. Well, you can keep the voters or lose the elections. Bad candidates may be good fealty to one person, but will lose for a whole party in the end. This election might actually be the end of the Loon.
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The man the 1/6 committee hired is named James Goldston.
James Goldston
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James Goldston is a British-American journalist, media executive, and former President of ABC News. WikipediaBorn: June 19, 1968 (age 53 years), Heston, Hounslow, United KingdomSpouse: Laura Trevelyan (m. 1998)Awards: News & Documentary Emmy Award for Outstanding Investigative Report in a Newscast, MOREEducation: School of Journalism, Media and Culture, Jesus CollegeTV shows: GMA3: What You Need To Know
This is I hope the man who will make a whole lot of people tune in, sit up, and drink in a production that will ( I am so hopeful ) make them twice as eager to come back each following week. The more all of us get verified as to truth the better I have remained confused most of the time as to just how many are or have been on the fence possibly waiting for " proof " .
I don't think Mr. Goldston is currently president of ABC News, but that doesn't detract from what was apparently seen as to his abilities into making a stand-out documentary. It was hard to imagine the Democrats being able to put something together with all that much of a WOW factor, but it sure sounds like they knew exactly where to go -- and when, to get exactly whaqt seems to be needed.
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Fox News has no legitimate news reporters. They were pushed out for reporting facts about the election. I'm not sure why the FCC exists, except for licensing. It certainly isn't concerned about accuracy or facts being reported.
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Yes, Fox is pretty sad but is what Rupert and now his son has made it. I think their whole point ( they do present blatant lies ) is to amplify any negativism that happens on the left to help badly distort how the right sees it. They always seem to present it all as highly dangerous to themselves -- no more so than what we see and feel from them. Their message though has been never relenting and so gut-wrenching ( to us ) constant.
They just never much let up while we walk away rather quickly with our hammer. We want the reputation ( and fine if it works ) of always being fair and honest, and leave off with the constant repetition of others mistakes. That's great, but it just doesn't work real well. We have to pound that hammer so often that the nail disappears. Just stay with it till we see the results we expect.
I'm sure some of the people on Fox are not bothered at all by how they present " news ". Many I'm sure believe it, but many have left on their own or pushed as you say cardplayer. Apparently, those who left more on their own had enough conscience left, and seeing that it was never going to be better there chose to exit.
I would love to see someone do something with Fox -- some penalty for the outright lies, but certain people, and the orange Loon was one of them seem so often to get the opportunity to sail on calm seas for reasons we don't understand other than when they start out no one ever believes it will be as bad as it ultimately gets which is usually way too late. The solidness of letting them have their way with no penalty is set in stone by then almost.
I hope that may change soon -- but we do have to win more elections and get more seats in the Senate especially. Crossing my fingers.
ETA: an f where it belongs because someone may be wondering what gingers are. I had a laugh when I saw it. I have at times a hyper brain that is well past the spelling part of some words. It keeps it interesting. I'm also something of a hyper typist as well. I did not do well in the business portions of my school save for somehow being very good/fast at typing. I skipped proof-reading all together.
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I am hopeful but not optimistic that telecasting the 1/6 hearings will be a game-changer. I keep hearing them compared to the Watergate hearings, but there are some huge differences.
First, back in 1974 there was no cable, satellite, nor internet (much less social media). There were only three networks: ABC, CBS, & NBC. FOX was still just a movie studio and Murdoch was not a major media player. (Even the now-trashy rag NYPost was resolutely Democratic and liberal back then when Dorothy Schiff owned it). There was talk radio, but it was mostly late at night and apolitical. And Donald Trump was basically still his dad's apprentice & rent collector (sort of like the late Robert Durst).
Second, the hearings were broadcast live...in daytime. (They were summarized during the evening newscasts--the first 15 minutes of even the 11pm news was national). I watched live towards the end, because I was home during the day, since summer law school classes were in the evening so that students could work summer jobs.
Third, except for the most hidebound right-wing GOP Senators, the hearings were bipartisan, chaired by Republican Howard Baker--overseen "behind the scenes" by a special prosecutor and a judge (Sirica). There was no tribalistic litmus test for either party--there were conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. It was the GOP that finally urged Nixon's aides to convince him to resign before he could be impeached--because informal polling of both parties' caucuses showed there would be enough votes for conviction & removal. Back then, people's reasoning was "I believe in and stand for (A, B, & C), therefore, I am a (name of party) because they share my values. Today it's "I'm a (name of party); therefore I must believe in (X, Y, & Z)." Actually, that's truer for Republicans (who add "Q" to the foregoing alphabet soup).
The night Nixon resigned, a TV was wheeled into the lecture hall where our Ethics & Professional Responsibility course was being taught. (The prof, a conservative, had been Watergate defendant Egil Krogh's Ethics teacher at UW a decade earlier, a source of profound embarrassment & contrition). Afterward, class moved across the street to the Beef&Brew, where student & faculty, conservatives & liberals alike drank pitchers of beer & played pool. That would never happen today.
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It is only in exceptional moods that we realize how wonderful are
the commonest experiences of life. It seems to me sometimes that
these experiences have an "inner" side, as well as the outer side
we normally perceive. At such moments one suddenly sees everything
with new eyes; one feels on the brink of some great revelation. It is as if
we caught a glimpse of some incredibly beautiful world
that lies silently about us all the time.
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Finally getting a little closer.
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Again, the hypocrisy is astounding.
I volunteered to work at the polls for the election next Tuesday, so just got back from a training season. Since I have the time, and complain a lot, I figured maybe I better participate in some way. The only downside is that we are expected to show up at 6:30 am and stay until the polls close at 7 pm (I didn't know the hours when I agreed to the gig!).
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Thank goodness you don't have to be to work every day at 6:30 in the morning -- says the person who went to work 9 yrs. straight at 5 a.m. 5 days a week. My upside though was getting off at 2 p.m. Only for a day -- albeit a long one. You are as well DOING something and I think it will likely be a good experience. I had a friend that work at the polls at every election. She enjoyed it -- but we do live in a small town and so I think she enjoyed nodding to all the people she knew which was a lot.
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Ruth, I've worked the polls numerous times, tho not recently, and tho it's a long day, you'll find it interesting and insightful.
I wish I got up earlier more often becauseI love the quiet start of the day where people are slowly getting a move on. I am at the hospital this morning getting scans and had an unusually early appt time. It meant waking at 5 and leaving at 5:30 for the hour drive to Pittsburgh. I got everything ready last night. Now it's nice and quiet here while people get coffee at the kiosk and the custodians are emptying trash. Less hustle and bustle. When I'm done I'll go to lunch with my son who lives ten minutes away.
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A greater poverty than that caused by lack of money is the poverty of unawareness. Men and women go about the world unaware of the beauty, the goodness, and the glories in it. Their souls are poor. It is better to have a poor pocketbook than to suffer from a poor soul. -Jerry Fleishman
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I agree Divine. There is something about getting up early. It is really nice if you can just do it w/o an appt. That way you can sit on the deck waiting for the sun and the morning birds conversing. Even the slightly crispy air has a bit of excitement it will share. I slept late this morning and missed it all but the past couple of days I have had to be up early for ' work ' and so wanted to sleep in. Trouble is -- if I go too long Dh comes in and wakes me. BOO.
I've been thinking about tonight and hope I'm not disappointed. I am also aware that I have been and will be exposed to a whole lot of negativities from media and Reps. It though is times such as these that I'm thrilled that I chose to be a Democrat ( for the most part ) early on. I will vote for ANYONE who offers great solutions to our world problems, but it has un-fortunately been years sine I've even questioned a Reps. having a good solution to anything. I'm disgusted with media. Back when Watergate took place we had REAL news persons who dug for information -- and they were not in a hurry and it is sad on the one hand that wi-fi and internet have made finding out things instantaneous.
On the way here I read a piece where the new man ( Licht ? ) at CNN is wanting to have an operation that corresponds more to the center. So, his solution -- push out Jim Accosta What a mistake that would be. There isn't much of a center anymore and that would likely be 'polital' suicide for CNN who has been in a tailspin already. What Mr. Licht sees as saving grace is a disaster that will do nothing for the tailspin that is going on there. Some people do seemed destined to be on another planet at times.
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There's lots of interesting local news coming out of DC on the eve of the January 6 reportin, from our football team. The Commanders defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio said
"I can look at images on the TV [of the Floyd protests] — people's livelihoods are being destroyed. Businesses are being burned down. No problem," he said Wednesday. "And then we have a dust-up at the Capitol, nothing burned down, and we're going to make that a major deal. I just think it's kind of two standards, and if we apply the same standard and we're going to be reasonable with each other, let's have a discussion."
The Commanders, formerly the Washington Redskins, the The Washington Football Team have been mired in a scandal where the owner permitted misogynistic behavior against female employees that has him on the bench and his wife running the team. And now a racist coach among the ranks.
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Calling 1/6 a dust-up because nothing was burned down -- REALLY. For one thing, at times you wouldn't have known that for all the chemicals in the air . I think it extremely cheeky of anyone to characterize a rebellion at the Capitol while looking for a Vice President to hang ( gallows prepared and waiting ) is far, far more than a dust-up.
In my view, both of the referred to incidents were major events and people like Mr. DelRio are why we are still having major problems with these things today..
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Del Rio is quoting Tucker Fox News BS, the head coach is trying to focus on the season, and the team should have another loosing season. DH is a big sports fan, so it’s hard not to keep up on sports in our home
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It's starting to hit the fan at work. I may have documentable retaliatory actions from my franchise owner against me and one of my out-spoken coworkers. As a lead therapist and Training manager, I am supposed to have access to our online training system to sign off of completion tasks. But when I went in today to investigate an issue for one of my coworkers, I didn't have the access any more. I was demoted from "Unit Manager" to "Massage Therapist" without any discussion of the change with me. Our studio GM said that the owner reassigned everyone to regular MT level. But, curiously, our new lead MT does suddenly have Unit Mgr access - and no one told her about the change either.
She's keeping quiet about it until we know more about the owners' intentions. If they think they can get our 3rd lead on their side just by offering her a union-buster promotion, they're in for a big surprise. She's even more down-with-the-man than we are!
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Del Rio's attitude exemplifies everything that's wrong with the NFL (and to a lesser extent, MLB). The NHL doesn't count, as they're Canadians and their conservatives are to the left of our centrists. The NBA is principled, however--with a long history of activism from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on down to Bill Walton, Bill Bradley, Phil Jackson (ok, more Zen than political), and now Suns' coach Steve Kerr (proud to have claimed him as a former Bulls star), especially impassioned on the need for gun control legislation.
FOXNoise not only insisted on spurning coverage of tonight's hearings (covered live on every broadcast channel in Chicago as well as CNN & MSNBC), but made Tucker (Swanson Turkey Pie scion) Carlson's show commercial-free. That's right: they were willing to lose millions in ad revenue to keep viewers from flipping to another channel during breaks and accidentally hearing actual FACTS.
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Gosh, mirianda, I am sorry you are having to go through this.
How FOX can call itself 'News' is pretty interesting. When you can't even allow your audience to watch actual news......but feel the need to filter it for them. Pathetic.
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When we start at the center of ourselves, we discover something worthwhile
extending toward the periphery of the circle. We find again some of the joy
in the now, some of the peace in the here, some of the love in me and thee
which go to make up the kingdom of heaven on earth.
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Here's hoping we say BYE FELICIA to a whole lot of reps. So sick of those people, period. I watched rapturously the program last night. I was a bit feareful ( after having heard so many 'leaks' ) that I wouldn't be impressed, but thankfully I was wrong. I thought it was in some ways a really stunning presentation. OVERALL opinion -- for me it was finally at last hearing from a definite entity that I could trust for what really took place. Up to now feeling that so much media bias and reporting may not be totally honest due to ratings etc. I had many sensations of doubt. Most of that is completely removed now. ALSO, that a group ( sounds like Proud Boys ) were dispatched early on -- by 10:30 a.m. to go to the Capital -- long before Loon Trump gave his "rallying" speech. He, as well as his closest people/comrades in the WH, knew what was coming and the Proud Boys prepared the way for the mob who were meant to not only cause harm, but to keep chaos at a high level so that Mike Pence could not do his job.
The Loon really did NOT care what happened to Pence and he knew when he went to the Elipse that Pence was not going to help him. So, he meant every word he said in his speech.
I am once again thrilled that Pence did not take the opportunity to leave when the Secret Service asked to put him into a car to be taken off the Capital grounds that afternoon. Reading on the way here, last night was described as not for people like us -- who have known all along. We are just finding the actual cement -- but is for the ones in the middle. This will likely settle those who have questioned all along or who like me, just aren't sure due to media bias. I think there are plenty of people who may get their minds settled now. Chairman Thompson and Vice Chair Cheney were, calm, cogent and highly competent. Sentiment about the Loon and Reps. has not been positive ( save but to themselves ) for some time and this will not only give out furthur and irrefutable info, but will reawaken memories and feelings of all the pain, distress and death sufferred that day.
I will be glued to my chair again for the next one, I'm sure.
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Here is something Liz Cheney pointed out very succinctly during last night's presentation.
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Just a headline grabber if ever there were one and were I a Reps. I would be doing an inner melt-down like no other. This despite the fact that the Reps. have been on the wrong track for so long that they seem as if they have no REAL idea how to get back. HINT: Truth sets you free.
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The January 6 committee did an excellent job of laying out the case. Too bad GQP didn't tune in to hear the truth.
Miriandra - Sorry you're going through this. Do you have access to a lawyer?
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