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Nancy, glad you are getting your porch work done even if it had to happen today. I am also praying for your fatigue--I know firsthand how that feels! I continue to pray for Jean, Shannon, Carol, Hershey, gb, and Wheatfields. All our issues add up and make things harder while fighting this disease. I am thankful God cares and walks beside us. I feel better after stopping my medicine completely while waiting for a reduced dose. But I think I overdid it yesterday because I felt pretty good, and am paying for it today. I forget I just can't do things. So I will play couch potato today.
Take care dear friends. Chris
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Oh, Nancy, the saga continues, right? Having work done can be SO frustrating! We want to be kind, but sometimes it seems like we have to raise our voices in order to be heard.
The fatigue - I was just thinking about it and how it just hits out of nowhere. It's so hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it. Between the fatigue, the digestive issues and everything else, it just feels like a little too much.
Chris, I hope you can play couch potato today (my fingers started to write "house potato!") and that you can get some rest.
Carol
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After a couple of days considering what to do since the treatment made my lymphedema worse I decided to see the PT lady once more on Tuesday and let her know I'm not comfortable with having my arm wrapped again until I see the hand doctor I made an appointment for on Wednesday and also speak to my lymphedema doctor down at Sloan-Kettering . I feel a little bit more in control and less frustrated now that I've made a decision on what to do going forward. I have been treating the pain and swelling with ibuprofen and at-home gentle massage. The swelling has gone down and the pain is almost gone. Thank you all for your concern. Jean
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Hi Nancy!!!!
It’s so good to be back. Yes my mother’s breast cancer came back. On the mastectomy side. They did surgery and got clean margins and my mom chose not to do anything further. She is 83. And decided just to not do radiation.
Thank you for remembering! She is doing great after surgery.
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Chris, I know you understand fatigue as you have been through so many challenges which have resulted in a lot of fatigue. We can so easily overdo and I know you probably feel enormous time pressure to have your house in perfect condition for you incoming family. I hate it that it hit you the next day after having a better day but I do believe God sidelines us sometimes because He knows we need the rest. I am glad to hear that you are off your new med until getting a lower dose. I do hope you will have many days of feeling much better with more energy to do what you would like to do. Yes, I am very grateful that this porch project finally got off the ground as I had this fear that he was going to blow me off completely.
Carol, yes the saga continues. This year has been the worst for me and contractors. I have had to hire handymen for most of my adult life and I don't ever remember having a year like this. God must be teaching me something that I am having to learn over and over again. Not quite sure. But today very little got done because of a big problem so the two day project is looking like it might be more like a week project because they never put in a full day's work. In the scheme of life this will be a minor blip on the radar and I keep telling myself that. I have laid this project at Jesus feet numerous times and I find myself having to do that daily now. The fatigue is concerning since I don't know the source. I imagine my weight loss and my detox program have contributed to this somehow but it may be my body adjusting to all of it and my meds trying to adjust as well. I am still forcing myself to walk almost every day. Is this your weekend with your family I believe? Hoping that will be a blessing.
Jean. I am glad you feel better after putting a plan in place. I know that always helps me when I am feeling out of control and frustrated. I suffer from fibromyalgia and that issue has caused me a lot of grief with many physical therapies I have had in my life. I have to just stand up to the therapist and say I can only do so many of these reps because it is making my pain worse or causing other areas to become painful. Some are more receptive than others. I hope you will find that yours will be and I am glad you have helped reduce the swelling yourself. I never had to experience the wrapping in my LE therapy so I don't know what that is like but I know you will figure out what is best for you. We do have to be our own advocates as we all know after the myriad doctor apts we have to have just for BC alone.
Wheatfields, how are you feeling now post surgery? Hopefully much less pain.
Teka, praying for you as you wait to see your ortho doc.
Hershey, how is your PT coming along? Has your Mom started their community garden yet? I bet she will really enjoy that. There is healing in watching things grow and having an active part in that process.
Shannon, I am sorry to hear about your Mom. Hopefully she will have many good quality days left to enjoy.
GB. has any decisions been made yet affecting your workplace. I have been praying that the Covid exposure will NOT happen.
Enjoy your Memorial Day tomorrow everyone.
Love,
Nancy
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Nancy, I'm sorry that your contractor hit a snag that caused a work stoppage. That's frustrating for sure. I seem to remember that you live in an HOA community. I hope the HOA board is understanding of the project and any work delays.
Thank you for asking about my mom and the community garden. Plants were started indoors from seed and transplanted to the garden after Mother's Day. Her area of the state has received lots of spring rains, so the tomato plants have required no deep watering. My mom does enjoy visiting the garden and seeing the plants grow.
I've had two PT sessions so far. The first session was entirely spent with the therapist; the second was split between the therapist and an assistant/intern. I do notice some improvement in shoulder mobility and pain after my sessions.
Shannon, I'm glad that your mom is doing well after her surgery. My friend's mom has been diagnosed with breast cancer three times. Her last occurrence happened when she was over 80 years old. She elected to do surgery only. This past February, she celebrated her 99th birthday! I pray your mom will have a successful outcome as well.
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Take a moment today to appreciate the ultimate sacrifices our men and women in the military have made for us to be able to celebrate freedom in America. Enjoy your day.

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Hershey, I am glad to hear your shoulder is improving already. That seems pretty typical these days to have your time split with the PT and their interns. I'm glad to hear your Mom can visit the community garden and enjoy seeing the tomato plants grow. Enjoy today. We are having fantastic weather this weekend and I hope you are too.
Yes, I am holding my breath that no one complained about hearing the circular saw going on a Sunday from my contractors. Working on Sundays is not allowed. I set this up thinking my contractor was leaving the country today and taking a teaching assistant position in France. That never happened because of the huge airfare now. Otherwise I would have never consented to him working on Sunday. I believe in taking that day to rest. I was able to invite the contractors to my church as they knew I was having my church online yesterday. They are from Russia.
Faith, I am not sure if you are able to login now but know you are still in my prayers always.
Love,
Nancy
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Please pray that mt Lymphedema PT goes well tomorrow and she cooperates with my plan to see a hand doctor and speak with my Sloan-Kettering Lymphadema Dr before continuing treatment. Also that I will get copies of all my measurements while there to give the hand doctor on Wednesday and send to Sloan-Kettering. Thank you all for your support. Jean Prayed for you all.
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Jean, I am praying for your PT and doctor needs today. May God answer your prayers and send you peace in the process.
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Jean, I have prayed for you that your plan will play out as you hope it will and that you can continue treatments which I pray will be effective and that you will have peace in this situation.
I need prayers today. Yesterday I did my usual grocery shopping and then decided to work out in my yard. It was hot but very forceful winds so I wasn't all that aware of the heat. I spent several hours working and right when I was just about to finish and go inside and eat a very late lunch a friend stopped by. We talked for maybe an hour or more and I was getting very parched and in need of water. I was dirty and didn't invite her inside. When she left I was so wiped out and I still had to collect all my tools and put away. As soon as I got inside I immediately felt nauseated and I did get sick. I felt queasy the whole night and don't feel great today. I thought I had an early car apt today and I misread my calendar and it is tomorrow thankfully. My contractors have not shown up and they knew they could work even if I was gone. I have been drinking electrolyte water and it is a special order powder that goes into my filtered water. I am guessing I had heat exhaustion with dehydration. At any rate I would appreciate your prayers. I have much on my to do list and probably nothing is going to happen today other than laying around and resting.
I hope you all had a good holiday weekend.'
Love,
Nancy
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Oh Nancy, heat exhaustion can be very dangerous and lead to heat stroke. Please rest today with no guilt. I will pray for a quick recovery.
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Nancy, I hope you're feeling better today. It does sound like heat exhaustion. I had that a few times when I was a kid and played in the sun too long. It's miserable and we didn't have electrolyte water at that time (as far as I knew.)
Carol
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Nancy, I hope you are resting comfortably and drinking plenty of fluids. Please take things easy, rest in a cool place, and cancel the car appointment if necessary. Heat exhaustion is a serious matter. Many years ago, my husband and I rented a Jeep and took a drive in the hot midday sun. We stopped for a bite to eat, and I passed out at the table from heat exhaustion. Thankfully, a customer at the next table recognized the signs and poured a pitcher of cold water over me. He later told my husband that the same thing happened to his wife just a few days before. We sometimes don't realize how warm we are or how little we're drinking. I pray your recovery is a very speedy one.
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Thank you dear sisters for your prayers and your concern. I am taking it easy today and just finished a big electrolyte drink. I knew I was exhausted yesterday as my friend and I were standing and talking. I hadn't seen her for quite some time even though she does go to my church so I wanted to catch up. I was completely surprised at how fast once I got inside my house I felt sick. I know I have not been feeling my normal self and will have to take it easy working outside. When noon came I was so frustrated with NO contractors at my house working so I texted the guy and basically said this is NOT working for me working less than a half a day at a time and having a two day project looking like it is turning into a two week project. I got some fast action after that. They didn't ring the doorbell today and I have not gone out to greet them. I already said I was not feeling well from yesterday. I did see one railing in place........finally. He said the woodwork would be up today. I'm still not holding my breath on that one but I did say I need a longer range plan that I can schedule around. So we will see what happens but I am hopeful. I was afraid materials might be stolen from my front porch as my garage does not have room to keep this with my car inside and I live on a corner where it would be very easy in the dark to carry off this expensive wood. I understand delays can happen but not appearing on the work site until afternoon and then leaving after only a few hours work is just very unusual to me. I started on this project last summer and ran into wood shortages. When I start on my new windows project I hear there is a shortage of aluminum and work can't begin for some for three months out. As I have said before in the big picture this is only a small blip on the radar. So I will put on my big girl panties and deal with it. LOL. Thanks again for your prayers.
Love,
Nancy
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I hope you are all doing well. Today is my idea of picture perfect weather. My contractor will finish priming and painting today and the project will be DONE. Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am feeling better now. Thank you for your prayers.
Love,
Nancy

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Good news Nancy! Send pictures when it is all done.
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Great news Nancy. I also have good news. I was able to get a scrip for a very good rehab up here to continue my Lymphedema treatment. Just waiting for them to call to schedule. I was told I should hear from them by early next week. I also got my appointment with the Sloan-Kettering Lymphedema doctor who is nearer than driving down to NYC moved from the end of July to the end if June. Onward we go.
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Great news Jean. Lots of prayer answers in your post!
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Jean, that's great news!
Carol
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Jean, so glad that things are working for you and obviously prayers are being answered.
My project is not quite done. My contractor works very slowly and meticulously and he spent an enormous amount of time being sure the nail heads would not show. It was 2:00 and he hadn't even started priming yet. He vowed to finish today. I ended up having to plug in two work lights and shine them through the kitchen window so he could see as he was working in the dark at this point. His Dad picked him up and they left at 9:40 PM. They are coming back tomorrow and touching up any places that need it since it was very hard to see. I started feeling very nauseated this afternoon. My young contractor found a wasps nest and asked if I had any spray which I did. In his spraying the nest my whole front door got covered in spray. He opened the door to give me the spray back and I don't do well with chemical smells at all so I am hoping that was all it was and that I do not have a stomach virus. I am totally exhausted from this very long day. I am sure the contractor must have been wiped out as well.
Chris, you will laugh at how small my front porch is and how this turned into such a deal. I have had it rebuilt in the past and it was done by two experts, a carpenter and a painter and it was a no brainer. It was done very quickly. Like I have mentioned before once the job is all done I will tell you the back story in all of this . My landscaping needs to be replaced but not this year. I will maybe post a pic so you can see it. My landscapers have not trimmed yet and things look pretty shaggy at this point but I'll see if I can post a pic of it. Nothing exciting but I am so thrilled that it will be done after tomorrow.
Have a good night everyone.
Love,
Nancy
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Hello ladies,
Nancy, I'm so glad you are feeling better and the porch is about to be completed. Jean, grateful for answers to prayer for your treatment. And it was good to hear from you Shannon and we will be praying for your mom also. I had the stitches out of my hand yesterday and had a little OT session to learn some exercises for it. I'm also supposed to massage Vitamin E oil into the incision a few times a day to smooth the scar tissue. The left hand with the thumb surgery and injection feels much better, and the right hand with just injection is a little sore yet at times although right now I'm using it more while the left hand heals. Praying for you all!
Wheatfields
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Wheatfields, I am glad you are doing well and it sounds like things are improving already. Hopefully now that a few days have passed you will have less pain and more use of both hands.
I just heard on the news of a breakthrough in rectal cancer in a small study. The participants did not have to have surgery or chemo and all are in remission. Jean, this was from Sloan Kettering that an oncologist discovered this amazing therapy. These types of things can be a huge breakthrough in all forms of cancer. Praying it will help for breast cancer.
My porch is finally done. A day later than I thought but done. It has been quite stressful and there have been several other things happen that I definitely feel has been an onslaught from the enemy. I know I need to stay very close to Jesus as he is my source and my protector.
I am praying for you all and mention each of your known issues up in prayer.
Love,
Nancy
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Let's all wish Chris and her DH a very happy 50th wedding anniversary on June 9. We wish you a blessed time with your family coming in to help celebrate this wonderful milestone. I have been praying that you will feel good and can just soak in all the love showered on both of you. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thank you Nancy. My oncologist appointment went well yesterday. I am feeling pretty good because I have been off treatment for a couple of weeks. God's timing is perfect! But I am supposed to start back on tomorrow... I am just sitting here waiting for everyone to arrive--both sons and their families and my Auntie.
Glad you got your front porch finished. Now I am praying for complete defeat of the enemy!
Wheatfields and gb, I join others in continued prayer.
Blessings, Chris
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Chris, I am so glad to hear you are feeling pretty good and awaiting family to arrive. I am praying that you will hopefully have NO side effects and I am assuming you are going to be on the lower dose. Have a great time and enjoy your big day.
Love,
Nancy
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Hi all, may I ask for prayers for another member from the Stage IV threads? Her name is moth and she's really sick with her liver mets. If this latest treatment doesn't work, she may move on to hospice. My heart is so heavy.
Thank you,
Carol
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Lord, we lift up our sister Moth to you. Father you know her situation and what she needs. I pray that you would allow this treatment she is on to do it's perfect work for her and allow her more time on this Earth. Help with any pain or discomfort that she has. Let her know how much you love her.
Love,
Nancy
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Carol, I didn't realize Moth was struggling so much. I will surely pray for her.
My family is here and I am so happy. God is good!
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I posted this on Nextdoor yesterday. After a period of time feeling an onslaught from the enemy this was a great response in giving God glory for a huge chapter in my life. I am not on the usual social media sites so I am still learning how to post. I had no idea this was going out to the whole country. The response has been so unbelievable from not only my local neighborhoods but from all corners of the country and in between. It has uplifted me greatly in knowing that my story touched so many people and inspired them. I know that I have shared this story with some of you who have been around for quite some time but the newer people to this thread have not heard it. I did want more of an audience to share my story and that surely happened once I posted it. I hope it blesses you as well.
This Swan family changed my life.
Eight years ago this month I was in the middle of my daily cancer treatments in Lisle, IL. I had suffered a shoulder injury during a diagnostic procedure so I had not only my cancer treatments but also shoulder therapy as well. On my daily jaunts to the cancer clinic I saw these two beautiful adult swans in this pond on Warrenville Rd at Arbor Lakes corporate office complex in Lisle. I had not seen swans before and I was so thrilled to see them. This was absolutely a bright spot everyday as I traveled to and from my treatments. I would see them every day as I drove to my clinic. I was to finish treatments at the end of June but the radiation machine broke down for four days. When I resumed I looked for "my" swans and I didn't see them. I looked on the bank of the pond and I could see several fur balls next to the adults. I was over the moon. I had dabbled in bird photography but was really not into it at that time. When I finally finished my treatments and was dealing with the typical radiation fatigue I vowed I would go back to this pond and see how to gain access. So about three weeks later I had my camera in tow and found out how to gain access and be able to get pretty close to the swans. At this point the five cygnets were swimming like pros right along with Mom and Dad. I took several pictures and on a whim I decided to send one to the Daily Herald photo competition. One day I opened the paper and there was my swan family as a winner of the week. A few weeks later I got a call from the Daily Herald and they wanted to interview me. I told them about my cancer journey and discovering the swans during that time. I told them that I really thought this was a gift from God to me during this very scary and stressful time. I found out my photo was the winner of the month. I did receive some gift card money which was nice but more thrilling was the passion that was ignited in me after that whole experience. I have since then taken photography classes and workshops and spent many hours watching photography tutorials on YouTube and reading photography books. I have been fortunate to have won several photography competitions since then and I am still very passionate about photography to this day. As I look back what if that radiation machine had not broken down. Would those cygnets have been born yet? I will never know that answer but I thank God for this swan family that is now on my living room wall as a testimony to God's goodness and mercy in my cancer journey. I have gone back to this pond several times to try to recreate this photo with newer swan families. It just never happened. It was all meant to be for that moment that this swan family was right there at the right time for me to catch this moment in my life. So as you can see this swan family truly did change my life forever. In The Daily Herald article about my photo they titled it "A Heavenly Sight". I couldn't agree more.
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