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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    Puede ser una imagen de texto

    Plenty of agreement with me here on this one.

  • Nsbrown54
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    illinoislady - are you doing something special to get meme to post? I'm using safari and iPad. Still not working?

  • IllinoisLady
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    May 4, 2022

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    The uproar over the leaked draft of the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade continues. You can tell just how furious the reaction has been by the fact that establishment Republicans are desperately trying to turn the public conversation to the question of who leaked the document. They are baselessly blaming the opposition to the decision—a Newsmax host blamed Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, who hasn't even taken her seat yet—for the leak, although observers point out that the leak seems more likely to have come from a hard-core right-wing antiabortion activist, since it will make it very hard for any of those justices currently in the majority to soften their stance.

    The draft decision takes a sweepingly broad position against Roe v. Wade, declaring that the Fourteenth Amendment cannot protect the right to abortion because such a right is not "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition." This opens the door to similar attacks on constitutional rights previously established by the Supreme Court: the right to use birth control, marry regardless of race and gender lines, and engage in sexual intimacy between consenting adults.

    Republican lawmakers are downplaying the reach of the apparent decision, avoiding the question of whether gay rights are next on the chopping block. Bryan Metzger of Business Insider asked "nearly a dozen" Republican senators whether they think the draft decision overturning Roe v. Wade threatens the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision recognizing the right to same-sex marriage, and whether they supported overturning the Obergefell decision. Metzger wrote: "None gave a clear yes or no answer, and several outright declined to comment." A year ago, seventy percent of Americans supported gay marriage.

    The popularity of civil rights might not matter much: law professors Melissa Murray and Leah Litman noted in the Washington Post that "[p]erhaps the most stunning feature of the opinion is that its indignant tone and aggressive reasoning make clear how empowered this conservative majority believes itself to be."

    Indeed, right-wing commentators are emboldened by the apparent success of their drive to take away the constitutional right to abortion. The Committee on Administration of Criminal Justice in the Louisiana legislature today reported favorably on a fetal personhood bill that protects "human life, created in the image of God…equally…from fertilization to natural death," meaning that abortion is homicide and prosecutors can charge patients with murder.

    Right-wing commentators today called for the court to end recognition of the right to gay marriage, and Texas governor Greg Abbott said that Texas might challenge the 1982 Plyler v. Doe decision, in which the Supreme Court ruled that the state could not withhold state funds to educate undocumented immigrant children from local school districts. "I think we will resurrect that case and challenge this issue again," Abbott told a talk show host, "because the expenses are extraordinary and the times are different than when Plyler versus Doe was issued many decades ago."

    The draft decision has been a clarifying moment for the country. Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin told journalists to stop referring to the convulsions in the country today as "culture wars," as if they were "a battle between two sides over hemlines or movie ratings." Instead, she wrote, "This is religious tyranny…in which the right seeks to break through all restraints on government power in an effort to establish a society that aligns with a minority view of America as a White, Christian country."

    When reporters asked him about the draft, President Joe Biden said: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that's existed in American history."

    Today documents from the Department of Justice revealed that on the evening of January 6th, after the rioters had left the Capitol, Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the right-wing Oath Keepers militia group, begged an individual who was in contact with then-president Trump to authorize his and similar groups to stop the transfer of power with force. The group had quick reaction force (QRF) teams, firearms, and combat gear stashed outside the city to use if called upon.

    The individual refused to put Rhodes into direct contact with Trump, but the person appears to have been within the president's inner circle, bringing the investigation closer to Trump. That night, court documents recorded, "Rhodes continued to discuss the need to prepare for a larger fight against the government akin to the American Revolutionary War." (There seem to be an awful lot of references to 1776 around January 6, don't there?)

    Yet another leaked tape from House minority leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), in which he said that "what the president did is atrocious and totally wrong," showed that immediately after the insurrection, even Republicans realized that Trump had gone too far, and their hope was simply to move him offstage and get people to focus on moving forward. The party quickly snapped back to his side, though, when it became clear that his base wouldn't abandon him.

    "One of the most stunning and sad things in my view that has happened since January 6 has been the realization that the vast majority of...my party, when the chips were down and the time of testing came, they didn't do the right thing," Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY), one of the two Republicans to sit on the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, said today.

    The events of January 6 did not prompt many leading supporters to break from the Republican Party, but this attempt to erase our rights and establish a state religion might spark a political realignment.

    This moment seems to echo the days after the 1857 Dred Scott v Sandford decision took away voters' ability to stop the spread of human enslavement. Like the draft decision we have seen this week, that decision was clearly political and drew on appallingly bad history to reach a conclusion that gave extraordinary power to the country's wealthiest men. Horace Greeley, the prominent editor of the New York Daily Tribune, wrote that the Dred Scott decision was "entitled to just so much moral weight as would be the judgment of a majority of those congregated in any Washington bar-room."

    Three months later, the Illinois Republican Party nominated Abraham Lincoln for senator. With his acceptance speech, he began the process of reclaiming equality as the central principle of the United States by giving his famous House Divided speech in which he warned that there was a plan afoot to spread enslavement across the entire country.

    In the present, not only are the streets full of protesters, but also the three Republican governors in New England—Charlie Baker (MA), Chris Sununu (NH), and Phil Scott (VT)-—have all said they will protect abortion rights in their states. Levi Strauss & Company, the clothing manufacturer, today called on business leaders to protect the health and well-being of their employees, defending the reproductive rights that have enabled women to participate more fully in the economy in the past 50 years.

    The world has changed since the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade in 1973. Levi Strauss noted that today, 58% of its workforce is female. And as Rebecca Solnit pointed out in The Guardian, the various groups now under attack form a broad coalition. "It doesn't really matter if they're coming for you, because they're coming for us," she wrote. And "[u]s these days means pretty much everyone who's not a straight white Christian man with rightwing politics."

    Justice Samuel Alito, the author of the draft opinion, has canceled a public appearance tomorrow. And tonight, according to Washington, D.C., journalist Lindsay Watts, security officials have begun to install non-scalable fencing around the Supreme Court.
  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
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    Maybe the draft was leaked to take the focus off the January 6 tapes and trumps legal woes?

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    That could well be, but in either case, I think it may turn out to be a real mistake since it gave ALL the Democrats as well as a number of Reps. and Independents a broad view into what a few, not so good men, were poised to do to help the right ( far right in many places ) achieve the ends of power and greed they have been reaching to for a very long time. Power hungry and not squeamish at all about what it might take to get that POWER and CONTROL. It is frightening to say the very least. Way past time to WAKE the heck up.

  • IllinoisLady
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    The Ninth Amendment of the United States Constitution states that the federal government doesn't own the rights that are not listed in the Constitution, but instead, they belong to citizens. This means the rights that are specified in the Constitution are not the only ones people should be limited to.

    Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution Explained


    This could be seen as whataboutism, but there is a real point to be made here.

  • IllinoisLady
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    Supreme Court Leak Signals the Triumph of Politics over the Law

    Posted: 05 May 2022 04:33 AM PDT

    Barry Friedman, Dahlia Lithwick and Stephen I. Vladeck : All this leaked draft opinion is, then, is a naked power grab ... .Do not mistake principled decision-making for what in reality is the opportunistic and intensely partisan manipulation of circumstance ... .This is a political opinion from a political court, one that doesn't pretend to be anything else.
  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
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    I do think that if you say "it is the law of the land" and you have no intention of abiding by it that you are bare faced lying while under the guise of legal language. Do you really believe that Kavanaugh did not assault that woman and that Coney-Barrett is a feminist? Nope, not buying it because I think they are not using the law of the land but their own principles to make decisions that are political by nature and choice. Not appropriate for a SC justice. I do believe it was one of their flunkies who leaked it because they want this to be the rule of the land. We are headed in a very backwards direction that is scary for the future of my GD.

  • IllinoisLady
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    The more things you care about, and the more intensely you care, the more alive you are. This capacity for caring can illuminate any relationship: marriage, family, friendships--even the ties of affection that often join humans and animals. Each of us is born with some of it, but whether we let it expand or diminish is largely up to us. To care, you have to surrender the armor of indifference. You have to be willing to act, to make the first move.

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    In agreement, Betrayal. Clever with wording so you don't have to worry that you'll accidentally disqualify yourself. These people were well versed in how to avoid saying the 'wrong' things -- so now we are stuck with people who will ignore where we are so they can reverse all the progress made from so long ago. I read something somewhere that it may truly be time to expand the number of judges in SC. I really can't see their ( current judges ) behaviors changing.

    There is no validity left to this court. They destroyed themselves with the help of McConnell and the Loon. It is sad to see the charade the court has become. Something we all relied upon for so long and now it is useless and the only ones that will be happy are the extremists. I am old enough it won't affect me, but my grandchildren face risk from this for sure.


  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    May be an image of text that says '50, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF UNWANTED CHILDREN WITH ZERO HEALTHCARE OR EDUCATION AND PLENTY OF GUNS. I'M SURE THAT WILL WORK OUT WELL. @ohnoshetwitnt OCCUPY DEMOCRATS'

    Which is why right now John Roberts makes me want to throw up. Hoping his lily liver goes ahead and goes bad because he is working overtime to deserve it.

  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
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    Over turning Roe v Wade was McConnell’s plan all along. Not bring Merrick Garland name up for a vote was the beginning. I’d like to see Biden add another justice or two to the court but doubt he’d be able to get it through.

    Read an interesting article about Herschel Walker this morning. He’s running against Sen. Warlock in GA. Walker hasn’t shown up for any of the two debates and is as the article said “embarrassingly unqualified”. He’s got a good chance of winning though due to what the article referred to as “sports idolatry”. Same reason Tommy Tuberville, former Auburn coach is a US Senator. Have no knowledge of how government operates and have Trump backing

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
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    cardplayer, I agree 100% that overturning R v W was Mcconell's plan since not bringing Garland up for a SC vote. He is doing everything he's wanted to do to make sure the patriarchy remains alive and well for decades to come. Personally, I consider him to have been the most influential person in the U.S. in the past 20 years. Not in a good way, but influencing the lives of millions nevertheless.

  • IllinoisLady
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    Sometimes these memes get it in the side pocket so quick. For me this could not be MORE true.

    May be an image of 6 people and text that says '"Forgive me if I don't really care about a leaker violating a few Supreme Court justices' right to privacy, as those same same justices violate HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS' RIGHT TO PRIVACY." -BRIAN TYLER COHEN'

  • IllinoisLady
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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
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    How are you guys able to post memes? I haven't been able to from either my phone or laptop.

  • Nsbrown54
    Nsbrown54 Member Posts: 908
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    ruthbru - I’m not able to post memes or photos.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    The ones I've put in have not been a problem and I hope that continues, but honestly I am so computer illiterate that I have no idea why it seems ( fingers crossed here ) to be working for me. The first one I put in after reading that piece the mods put in ( should have kept that ) came on and I thought it was a fluke and it wouldn't work the next time -- or that I could see it but no one else would be able. I am now totally perplexed -- but I do hope the thing keeps working.


  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    You know don't you, how much tourists love to talk while they are sight-seeing.

    May be an image of one or more people and text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot The same people who say abortion is murder say this is political discourse.'

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    I try very hard not to use the word hate because it is so strong and engenders such negative feelings inside me -- but people like Gaetz sure test me.

    May be an image of 4 people and text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot Needless to say, when Matt Gaetz rails against over-educated women, he isn't talking about these two.'


    For him that would be if they got through 8th. grade because that seems to be who he runs with. These two he is with are as dumb as mud clods.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    Mainly talking Reps. here:

    May be an image of 1 person and text that says '"Jesus was not killed by atheism and anarchy. He was brought down by law and order allied with religion- which is always α deadly mix. Beware those who claim to know the will of God and are prepared to use force, if necessary, to make others conform. Beware those who cannot tell God's will from their own. Duke CHAPEL The Rev. Dr. Barbara Brown Taylor Butman Professor of Religion, Piedmont College, Demorest, Ga No More Make Believe'

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
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    The Reverand Brown meme was one of the ones I tried to post. I am getting very aggravated by the lack of progress in cleaning up this whole BCO site.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    Want of love is a degree of callousness; for love is the perfection of consciousness. We do not love because we do not comprehend, or rather we do not comprehend because we do not love. For love is the ultimate meaning of everything around us. It is not a mere sentiment; it is truth; it is the joy that is at the root of all creation.

    --Rabindranath Tagore

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    Ruth, I like you, wonder what is taking so long. Not only to do what needs done here to fix WHAT was working just fine, but I also wish we could get a much better explanation as to why some actions are deemed necessary -- like turning off some of the posting abilities. Also, a target idea of just when they might be returned. Much has been taken away while not so much has as yet come back.

    I'm still at a big loss as to why I can post, and others don't seem able. I so enjoy seeing what speaks to others so I can try and see and feel what they do. I feel a bit cheated as I'm sure those who can't post are feeling for sure. I do think it is high time to see some improvements are barring that an actual time when they can be expected. I've seen almost nothing here. I think some have seen a couple of things -- like the overall type larger, but mine was never little. The same size since my posting ability resumed.

    I should add ( for clarification ) that I never went in and tried to change or refresh any of my settings after I read that blurb from the mods. For a bit I just ignored trying to post anything -- then when I decided to try, viola, it worked and has kept working. I'm at a loss. I'm afraid to say anything for fear I will get turned off, but then worry -- what if when everyone else gets turned back on -- mine goes off. Sigh !! When you are illiterate on electronic things, you can't even make a decent guess.

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