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  • bcincolorado
    bcincolorado Member Posts: 5,758
    edited October 2021

    Wow that is awful!!! You should be told all information and would think it is your right to know.

  • nopink2019
    nopink2019 Member Posts: 329
    edited October 2021

    Coincidental timing. I was pondering this issue last night. My CT scan showed up in my portal before my appt (next week) to discuss. This cancer center posts a disclaimer that you can look, but you might be reading info before the Dr and that you might find disturbing info. I want to know the big pic so I'm prepared when I see the Dr. I also read over my bloodwork to see what was too high/low. Until recently all this was hidden from the patient. My PCP sends me to lab a week before my appt so we can discuss what might be an issue (thyroid, cholesterol, etc) and what drugs might need adjustment. In the past I recall going to Dr for 4pm appt, being asked if I was fasting (no! why? no one mentioned that!) and they said "well we'll do blood work anyway". Never heard a word about it. When I switched Dr and she had me do fasting bloodwork so we could go over it, the 1st thing that came up was that I needed thyroid meds. SO..that's why I had no energy! But unless the test is done fasting, the info is inconclusive. Additional transparency over the last few years has benefited the patient. No longer can the Dr play God and keep us in the dark.

  • WC3
    WC3 Member Posts: 1,540
    edited October 2021

    nopink2019:

    I've never had to be fasting for a thyroid panel. They just want me fasting for cholesterol and metabolic panels.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited October 2021

    I've never been told to fast for any blood work, just some scans.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2021

    Someone told me I needed to fast for an a1c I laughed in her face and said no I didn’t

  • MountainMia
    MountainMia Member Posts: 1,307
    edited October 2021

    This is what I found easily on fasting for basic blood tests:

    Not all blood tests will require you to fast beforehand. Blood tests that you will likely need to fast for include:

    • blood glucose test
    • liver function test
    • cholesterol test
    • triglyceride level test
    • high-density lipoprotein (HDL) level test
    • low-density lipoprotein (LDL) level test
    • basic metabolic panel
    • renal function panel
    • lipoprotein panel
    My PCP doc usually has me come in the day before for my blood draw so we have info during the appt.
  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited October 2021

    I usual fast before my lab work but because I am a lazy bee I make my appt for around 10 am and tell them I had a tsp of sugar in my tea prior to the test. I doubt anyone notes this other than to say it was not fasting. Regarding portal info I have been trying to get an allergy to pediatric motrin off my chart. I never said that! Where that came from IDK. What they seem to be interested in is my hx of depression and anxiety. Yeah this is a crazy person so lets just disregard her feelings of SE etc. Also they have that I had a shingles vaccine. Wrong, no I didn't because it would cost me 300 some odd $. Taking my chances on that. Had shingles but was only on my upper lip midline. Left a scar but heck there are plenty of wrinkles to blend in. It doesn't seem to matter how many times you tell them the info is wrong, it just keeps showing up. What pisses me off is you can't change your OWN health hx when you go on these sites.

  • GoldensRBest
    GoldensRBest Member Posts: 447
    edited October 2021

    Had labs and scans last week and phone visit w/MO 2 days later. Between that time I really studied my labs and brought some glaring issues to MOs attention. She passed it off as due to Ibrance but I complained of a number of symptoms. She ran a B12 test and guess who is severely anemic? And as I look back at my lab results, I probably have been for some time. Thankfully these results are available but I shouldn’t have to do my doctors job. And how many patients are able to advocate for themselves?

  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited October 2021

    No GoldensRbest you shouldn't have to. Good thing you did tho.

  • BarbTheBCBarbie
    BarbTheBCBarbie Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2021

    I’m angry with myself. I have stage 4 cancer and could have prevented it if I wasn’t so vein and get implants. Cause God knows if I hadn’t gotten implants and felt that sore knot I wouldn’t have left it there so long. 😔 I don’t have a full clinical picture yet. So just let me vent and move on. Today while Halloween shopping with my kids, an old coworker said I looked tired. I wanted to tell her well I just found out one month ago I am dieing.

  • GoldensRBest
    GoldensRBest Member Posts: 447
    edited November 2021

    BarbThe BCBarbie - NEVER blame yourself for your illness. You can come her and vent and spew expletives but do not bear that burden

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited October 2021

    barb,

    I also want to add that you are not dying!* Cancer in the axillary lymph nodes is not stage IV in almost every case I have heard of and does not meet the definition of metastatic breast cancer. I am not a doctor and understand that there may be circumstances in which it could be considered stage IV,possibly. You may see the words metastasis to axillary nodes on a path report but that is not the same as metastatic breast cancer. Take care and fill out that signature line so we can support you better!

    * Although stage IV is not curable, neither is it an immediate death sentence. Many of us are living longer and new drugs continue to be trialed. I have lived with stage IV for 10 years. I am still living with it and won’t put my foot in the grave until I really have to. I am not typical, but not as atypical as I once was.

  • bcincolorado
    bcincolorado Member Posts: 5,758
    edited October 2021

    Where we get lab work since DH has to do his early before his meds anyway since one of his tests measure levels that drug at the lowest point in his system we always go when they open up which is right after 6 in the morning. O dark ugly some days and cold outside but he has to get meds on schedule at a certain time too. We've learned they are not crowded then either and easy to get in and out at least. Of course we've always been fasting anyway at that point and not had anything yet so are covered no matter what. We have often found that another doctor has sent another lab test to done as well at the same requiring fasting we did not know about anyway so saves us a trip.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited November 2021

    I review the notes of every single doctor's visit. I send messages through the portal when I see something that is significantly incorrect. I want it all in writing.

    My primary sent me to a sleep clinic because of my lifelong insomnia. The nurse practitioner I saw was arrogant, dismissive, and absolutely determined to sell me a very expensive sleep study so he could then sell me a very expensive CPAP machine. I don't have sleep apnea, I said. I don't need a sleep study and I don't need a CPAP machine.

    After the less-than-great visit, his notes included "sleep difficulty began at menopause. Patient counseled to consult gynecologist for hormone replacement therapy." We had talked about my 100% estrogen-receptor positive breast cancer and the fact that I'll probably be on an aromatase inhibitor for life. We had NOT talked about HRT to relieve insomnia. My note of correction was polite but pointed.

    I know our physicians and care providers are over-the-top busy. Managed care, referrals, pre-authorizations, forms, and a ridiculous amount of documentation are time consuming tasks, and accuracy suffers. Reality doesn't always match what's written down.

  • Jelson
    Jelson Member Posts: 1,535
    edited November 2021

    sbelizabeth: I had a detailed history taken down by a resident and asked for a copy. It was full of mistakes, including IDC instead of DCIS, they may have also given me a successful pregnancy or two. I mailed in my corrections. Several years later I went to a cardiologist at the same hospital and was asked about my invasive breast cancer. I asked if this mistake could be corrected in my record and was told I would have to go back to the ob/gyn department where it originated - so these mistakes live on. (by that time I nolonger went to that ob/gyn practice due to the way they handled the diagnosis of my endometrial cancer) I haven't followed up as yet. Hopefully your mistake WAS corrected.

  • gb2115
    gb2115 Member Posts: 1,894
    edited November 2021

    My dermatologist charts that she does all this education on various things, but she doesn't. No one there has ever instructed me on the use of SPF, but it's there in my visit note.

    I have a job where I write my own patient visit notes, and it's a lesson in what NOT to do.

    Incidentally, we never have patients fast for a basal metabolic profile, or CMP, or LFTs. It might affect a glucose, but there are ranges for nonfasting levels, so you can still tell if there's a problem or if something needs further investigation. I would fast for a lipid panel though.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited November 2021

    The GTT is fasting for diabetics. Not for a1c

  • ctmbsikia
    ctmbsikia Member Posts: 1,095
    edited November 2021

    I'll consider myself fortunate that the notes I see in my portal are consistent with my visits. There is some junk in there like hepatitis and other vaccines I've already had, and none of which any of my doctors ask me or recommend any of this stuff to me. There is a mistake with my covid vaccine not showing the date of my 2nd dose. I cannot fix it.

    I do fast before labs.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited November 2021

    A few years ago when the cancer center computerized things, I was always given a print out of notes on my visit before I left which included remarks by the onc. Earlier this year I was going thru the MyChart stuff online and came upon additional notes I never knew were added to a different section. The big difference was that on numerous visits, it stated I was taking an anti-hormonal along with the Verzenio I was prescribed. False! I well remember asking the onc about it when I started taking V. But several anti-hormonals had failed so she was going with V alone.

    The thing is, my onc retired this year, so I didn't address the matter with her before she left since I'm not longer on V anyway. But I felt kind of betrayed, I guess, that this false information was put in my chart.

  • bcincolorado
    bcincolorado Member Posts: 5,758
    edited November 2021

    Primary and other specalists other than cancer doc are easy. MO uses a different system and their own. Much more confusing and harder to communicate and read things.

  • denny10
    denny10 Member Posts: 289
    edited November 2021

    I am new to this thread and it isn't about something that would seriously effect my health , but I need a rant.

    I subscribe to MarthaStewarLiving emails ,here in UK. Today I recieved an email that had this in it:

    9 Ways to Help Prevent Breast Cancer.

    I don't need this kind of 'information' ,that almost implies I am responsible for getting cancer because of my lifestyle. As it happens I did all the 9 things most of the time and still got cancer!

    I want to shout at whoever wrote this. I could unsubscribe but on the whole enjoy the emails get. AARRGGHHH!!!

  • Kikomoon
    Kikomoon Member Posts: 350
    edited November 2021

    We should all go post a comment on it and add to their education. I tried but it's asking for my email and I don't want their junk - Need to get home and get my junk email address.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited November 2021

    How about, “9 Ways to Possibly Lower Your Breast Cancer Risk But There Are No Guarantees” ?

    Somehow, I don’t think that will sell.

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited November 2021

    Well for starters this piss__ me off "But nearly all cancer cases—90 percent or more—are linked to lifestyle, not genetics."

  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited November 2021

    That's like all the magazines which shout out a NEW weight loss plan on the cover along with a picture of a delicious dessert.

  • Harley07
    Harley07 Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2021

    “ Banish household dust" - I have always hated dusting. Mystery solved - now I know why I got breast cancer. /sarcas

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited November 2021

    Cowgirl, yup, that line about 90% of cancers being linked to lifestyle has me seeing red too. Some idiot misunderstood the stats. While it is true that only about 10% of cancers are due to inherited genetic mutations, this does not mean that 90% are caused by lifestyle. There are genetic causes that are not inherited mutations, such as breast density and estrogen levels. According to the WHO, anywhere from 30% - 50% of cancers are preventable, i.e. due to causes that can be controlled/changed. According to Cancer Prevention Europe, 25% of breast cancers are preventable (click to the second page). That's far from 90%!

    https://www.who.int/activities/preventing-cancer

    https://cancerpreventioneurope.iarc.fr/preventable-cancers/

    That is a serious enough error that it should be reported and corrected. But how?

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited November 2021

    Harley,

    I hate dusting too and I live in very dry Northern CA! Thank you for solving the mystery of why I got bc 🤣

  • bcincolorado
    bcincolorado Member Posts: 5,758
    edited November 2021

    I was a bean pole and ate healthy due to issues in the house of other people for years before I got mine. It is what happens to some people no matter what and does not matter how much you do with exercise or diet or anything. It just happens. It sinks but to act like it was someone's fault is crazy.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited November 2021

    Ack, we've got new people here just in the last few days who are bending over backwards to blame themselves for having cancer! I HATE these type of articles. And where's the articles blaming men for giving themselves prostrate cancer?

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