Unilateral or Bilateral mastectomy?

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lstagg
lstagg Member Posts: 18

Hi everyone, I am new to all of this. I was diagnosed with high grade DCIS, 5.4 cm, this month and am scheduled for surgery on Nov 8. My surgeon says that the lesion is too big to do lumpectomy (I am small breasted) and the lesion is too close to the nipple to do nipple-sparing mastectomy. She also says the lesion is close to where the margins will be so she suspects possibility of radiation. She ALSO says due to the size of the lesion it may be hiding an invasive cancer. This may sound familiar to everyone else but it is all scary to me. I am planning on reconstruction afterwards (tissue expanders first due to possibility of radiation) and I am trying to decide if I should do bilateral mastectomy. My genetic tests came back negative today so it isn't a "have to" but I am terrified of ever having to go through this again. I am very tempted to do bilateral just to decrease any risks in the future. However, I know I am opening myself up to possible complications with the healthy side from surgery. Also, the PS said that the symmetry would be better at the end if I do bilateral (is that a shallow thing to think about?) so I have that to consider. I am 51 years old by the way. Does anyone have any advice on how to make this decision?

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  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited September 2021

    Read here:

    Topic: Considerations: Lumpectomy w/Rads vs. UMX vs. BMX https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topics...

    And here:

    Lumpectomy vs Mastectomy: How to Choose http://www.melbournebreastcancersurgery.com.au/lum...

    And specific to DCIS, here: Topic: lumpectomy vs mastectomy - why did you choose your route? https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/68/topics/806074


    Yes, depending on your breast size, symmetry may be better with a BMX. But there's a trade-off - symmetry vs. natural feelings/sensations. Reconstructed breasts are not the same as natural breasts; they are not even in any way similar to cosmetically enhanced breasts. When all the breast tissue is removed and replaced with an implant, the appearance of the breast is often less natural, the movement/feel of the breast may be less natural, and you lose all internal sensation, all nipple sensation and possibly some surface skin sensation (some feelings on the skin usually return but it's different for everyone). That's not to suggest that a BMX might not be the right decision for you, but PSs who talk about symmetry really offend me because they are focused on external appearance only and inevitably they don't mention feel, movement and natural sensation. They tend to forget that there is a woman attached to those breasts that they are creating.


  • lstagg
    lstagg Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2021

    Beesie, thank you, that is good information to consider. I am so wrapped up with worry about trying to avoid any more cancer in the future, it is easy to forget the changes like sensation that will occur. I am so wanting to make a smart decision!

  • bcincolorado
    bcincolorado Member Posts: 5,758
    edited September 2021

    It is a personal decision and some do both due to their own personal risk factors. Best wishes to you. I know making those decisions are difficult.

  • Waves2Stars
    Waves2Stars Member Posts: 158
    edited September 2021

    I had a unilateral for IDC. They found DCIS in there, too, during the mx. For a week or two I regretted not having a bilateral. My oncologist, breast surgeon and radiology oncologist all said the incidence of getting BC in the other natural breast was low, even if there might be DCIS hiding in there. In general, they don’t want to do a somewhat extreme surgery that you don’t need for a hypothetical situation, unless there’s something genetic going on.

    Like Beesie said, you lose feeling with mx. My breasts will not be symmetrical when I’m done with reconstruction, but my mx breast was always bigger anyways. I thought symmetrical, firm, high breasts would be the most important aesthetic outcome for me, but having one natural breast for feeling seems to be just as important right now.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2021

    I had a bilateral & knew that's what I wanted from the minute I was diagnosed.. First I was sick of being called back for repeated suspicious testing at least twice every year.. Second I wanted symmetry w/o any hassles. Third I was s really glad I did because they found problems in the breast that was the "good" one.

    That said, it is a very individual decision. I do miss the physical sensations. Even if you really like & trust your doc, you might want a second opinion at a different location just to "talk" with someone else.

  • JHam
    JHam Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2021

    As others have mentioned, it is a personal decision. One other factor to consider is the type of reconstruction you will end up getting. If you plan to do a DIEP Flap, you only really get one shot. If you are only reconstructing one breast, the remainder of the DIEP flap is tossed. I had DCIS 10 years ago. Mine was small enough that they treated it with lumpectomy and radiation. However, it took several surgeries to get clear margins. I contemplated UMX and BMX at that time, but I stuck with the lumpectomies and radiation. Now, 10 years later I have IDC in the same spot as my DCIS, at age 50. The docs are throwing the book at me and giving me ACT chemo (I have completed 3 of 16 rounds so far) before surgery to shrink the tumor, followed by DMX, proton therapy radiation (yes, radiation again), and hormonal therapy. I plan to do DIEP flap reconstruction. If I could go back in time, I would have opted for the DMX, even though it is no guarantee that the cancer would not come back in the chest wall or elsewhere. Seek input, weigh your options, get a second opinion, and go with what feels right for you. Best of luck to you!

  • lstagg
    lstagg Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2021

    Thank you all for your input. I am strongly leaning towards bilateral, just because I am so worried about future recurrence, and willing to do anything possible to lessen those chances. I feel like if I can get out of this situation and be "cured" I never want to roll these dice again. Please pray that my margins and lymph nodes are negative, it is so hard to wait so long in fear to find out about pathology. I feel blessed to have found such a strong group of women to be a part of.

  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited October 2021

    I don't know if this helps, but I had two mastectomies, separately. My doc wanted to see how I handled the first one before doing the next (I have other health concerns). You could do one and then decide after that first surgery about the second.

    The emphasis on symmetry may be because legally, regarding insurance coverage of a BMX or second mastectomy, you are entitled to "symmetry."

    I had pain in my non-cancer breast. Turns out it was full of cysts but also some precancerous areas so I was glad I had it done!

  • LillyIsHere
    LillyIsHere Member Posts: 830
    edited October 2021

    Istagg, the diagnose alone is very scary and we all made the decision what we think is best for us. In my case, same as you, I was diagnosed with small cancer and I was recommended lumpectomy with radiation. To make the decision for BMX, I took into consideration:

    1. small-medium size breast

    2. very dense breast - difficult to see in mamograms

    3. fear of recurrence in the other breast

    4. age

    That made me decide BMX. It worked better than keeping the breast and having every 6-month scans that can't see the tissue anyway. A surprise was that cancer was small, but LCIS was everywhere in both breasts and I had 2 lymph nodes positive that didn't show up in MRI. Breast reconstruction is not an easy procedure and I don't feel the same, I can't exercise like before but I had to pick what is bad and worst.

    Good luck! Keep us posted.

  • Jen2957
    Jen2957 Member Posts: 88
    edited October 2021

    Windingshores- I was so excited to see your suggestion of doing one at a time, as that is exactly what I will be doing this Thursday. I have IDC and extensive DCIS in my right breast- lumpectomy was not recommended, but my left breast is clear on all scans- including MRI with contrast- so I have opted to have a unilateral mastectomy on my diseased side, then see how I tolerate it and how things go. My oncologist and both oncological breast surgeons I consulted all said that, in my case (which is definitely the most important thing for anyone to consider), my overall survival would not be affected by doing BMX over UMX. For me, it came down to exactly what you said: wanting to see how I handled it first (I, too, have other health issues related to high blood pressure and history of stroke when I was 36- I’m 50 now- and appreciate the option).
    I know there are pros and cons to doing just one surgery, but did you find that your recovery seemed a bit easier because you were able to use your other side to assist with various tasks? And how long did you wait between the two?

    All-Did any of you who opted for UMX feel like you got a lot of the “are you crazy” looks when people found out your decision was not to do BMX immediately or maybe not at all? I have finally gotten my rationale down to an “elevator speech” length, but geez. Most people just don’t seem to have any concept of how breast cancers manifest and that we all have different factors that drive our decisions on treatment- I was clueless before my own diagnosis, so I completely understand where they’re coming from. As a former high school English teacher, I can’t help myself but to try to educate them a bit on the one-size-doesn’t-fit-all aspect of our treatment options without sounding like the Pedantic Pink Princess of Puketober. 😉


  • REFLECTION77
    REFLECTION77 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2021

    Hi,, wishing you the best re your upcoming surgery.. I have read that having CA in one breast does not mean

    you will get it in the other. I found recuperating with one to be challenging. So. am not sure re benefit,

    of doing bilateral surgery-- if not clinically indicated. I would vote No.. but that is just my opinion.

    Best, keep us posted re how you do. Hoping things go well with your recovery..

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