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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2021

    Alice - Sadly it's not the most frightening thing I've read recently.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    It's a horrible contest, isn't it?

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021

    Vasectomies are reversible. I like the idea that all boys get a vasectomy after puberty until they are ready to have kids and can prove a level of responsibility.

    A Modest Vasectomy Proposal

    Or the one that makes a man get snipped a month after his 50th birthday, or after his 3rd biological child, whichever comes (hee, hee - "cums") first.

    Alabama Prosed Vasectomy Law

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited September 2021

    Is there any state or country with any restrictions on the reproductive rights of men?

    Should men be required to see a sex therapist before being prescribed viagra?

    Virginia Senate voted against an amendment proposed by Virginia Sen. Janet Howell, a Democrat, which would have required a man to get a digital rectal exam and cardiac stress test before getting a prescription for an erectile-dysfunction drug.

    Kamala Harris asked Kavanaugh "Can you think of any laws that give government the power to make decisions about the male body?". Kavanaugh knew of none!

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021

    The only laws that limit male reproductive "rights" are those that define and prohibit rape. And even those rarely get reported, and barely get prosecuted.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2021
  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021
  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited September 2021

    Mirianda, how could I have forgotten the rape part.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    And the winner of today's ignorant misogynist republican rat bastard of the day award goes to this pile of 💩:

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-senate-hopeful-characterizes-pregnancies-rape-inconvenient-n1280023


  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021

    Oh for fuck's sake.

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2021

    AliceBastable, wow! What a delusional prick to think and actually say out loud that the circumstance (rape) is “inconvenient” and the a pregnancy is “what god intended”. Arggg!

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    In my ever-active fantasy world, the wife of one of these regressive shits would murder them in their sleep, then calmly confess, saying "I did it for all of us."

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2021

    Absolutely Alice. Maybe she would get a woman judge & we could all testify at her trial. Inconvenient.......when I read this in the news I had a full on 'snort' and sprayed coke everywhere.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2021

    This comes to mind:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Beheading_Holofernes_(Caravaggio)

    At the trial, we all step forward saying "I am Judith".

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2021

    Great Serenity. Thanks for posting the link. Very informative.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2021

    I've seen this painting in person. It's quite striking.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2021

    Wow. I am as ever, sooooo grateful for everything I have learned from you wonderful women & men who post at BCO. Thanks Alice. Edited to say AND EVERYONE on the multitude of threads here

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2021

    Alice - I had seen that painting only in books, but I didn't know the story of the artist until today. Her version is more appropriate. I would love to see it.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021

    In the Caravaggio, Judith looks somewhat repulsed by what she has to do. But Artemisia's Judith is ready to do some business!

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    There was an exhibition of the paintings of Artemisia Gentileschi and her father, Orazio Gentileschi, in 2002 at the St. Louis Art Museum. Biblical scenes and impaled saints are not my favorite, but most of the pieces were large and I zeroed in on the technique, details, and rich colors.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    Iceland elects its first female-majority parliament.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58698490

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2021

    Go Iceland!

    Alice - I prefer Modern art, but I do appreciate the chiaroscuro technique in these paintings. It's a fun word to say, and it adds depth and drama.

    I just came across this video today. Gentileschi was impressive and shouldn't be forgotten.


  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2021

    Fascinating. Thanks for posting.

  • BCinfoseeker
    BCinfoseeker Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2021

    I just looked in this thread for the first time. I have found my tribe <3

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021

    Welcome, infoseeker



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  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021

    “Truck Driving Has Long Been A Man's World. Meet The Women Changing That"

    Stephan Bisaha/NPR


    Driving trucks has historically been a male-driven profession, but if Pamela Williams has her way, that will soon change.

    "Guys, you better watch out, 'cause this right here is a women's industry from now on," says Williams, a truck driver and instructor with DSC Training Academy in Jackson, Mississippi.

    Williams is one of a record number of women who are hitting the road as strong demand for everything from iPads to cars has led to a skyrocketing demand for drivers to transport the goods.

    At the same time, many of the men who traditionally held truck driving jobs have yet to return, leading to a severe shortage of drivers across the industry.

    That has opened up opportunities for women, who were disproportionately hit by layoffs during the pandemic, especially in restaurants and service sector jobs.


    Williams demonstrates how to drive a truck at the DSC Training Academy on June 29. The teaching includes explaining the two types of airhorns used by trucks.
    (Pamela Williams, a driving instructor with DSC Training Academy,
    has been driving for seven years and enjoys seeing the country from the road)


    Pay in the truck driving industry has risen nearly 5% in the last year to an average of more than $27.50 per hour according to data from the Labor Department.

    That's higher than what many women made in service jobs, making trucking a more attractive professional path. The higher pay and the chance to see the country from the cabin of a truck is what attracted Williams to the industry.

    She's now been driving for seven years and she's also teaching others how to drive trucks.

    "I can go out here and drive a week and make a thousand dollars – a quick thousand dollars doing something that I like to do," Williams says. "That's good."

    Sleeping in cots and dealing with blood clots

    Still, trucking can be a rough job.

    Driving trucks often mean sleeping in a cot behind the front seat. All those hours of sitting behind the wheel can lead to blood clots. Plus driving around a 70-foot-long vehicle is one of the most dangerous jobs in the country, according to data on injuries, illnesses and fatalities from the Labor Department.

    For women there are additional challenges.

    While sexism from the male truckers has improved over the last decade, it hasn't gone away.

    The trucking industry is still dominated by men, who accounted for more than 83% of driving jobs in June, according to the job site ZipRecruiter, though there are about 245,000 more women driving currently, the highest ever.

    Before signing up for classes at DSC Training Academy, Amalya Livingston did everything from working call centers to freelance mechanic work on cars to taking photos of them for dealerships.

    She left those jobs for trucking to get away from always having a manager looking over her shoulder.

    Livingston says some men still give her smirks or side-eyes when she climbs out of the cabin at refueling stops.

    But it doesn't bother Livingston, who was inspired to join the trucking industry by her mother, who was herself a driver.

    "It comes with the territory," Livingston says. "Women who make history," she adds, "We're not complacent."

    Possibly, the biggest barrier for women is the time away from the people they care for. Research has shown women are more likely to be caretakers in the family, and many mothers continue to struggle with child care options.

    Why women drive trucks

    But more and more women are making it work.

    Tiffany Hathorn initially dismissed the idea of trucking. She had other jobs and even tried to start her own business. She also had two younger sons who would need to be taken care of, making it hard to be on the road.

    But Hathorn says she kept hitting a financial ceiling and she felt she was never making enough money for her family. It was Hathorn's mother who finally convinced her to join by volunteering to take care of the two sons.

    Today, Hathorn is a truck driver, and she's on track to make $70,000 for the year. She orders groceries from her phone while on the road, and she video chats with her two sons and her loved ones when she can.

    So when Hathorn gets asked by women and men whether trucking is right for them, she tells them the good and the bad. But she always tells them to do it, not least because of the financial freedom it has provided her.

    "I'm not struggling like I was before," she says. "I have more of a peace of mind now."


    (Tiffany Hathorn poses for a picture on June 29.
    She earned her trucking license a year ago and estimates she will make $70,000 this year.
    Hathorn says she recommends anybody who asks – men or women – to become a truck driver.)



    Williams, the instructor at DSC Training who's been driving for seven years, sees the initial hesitancy all the time.

    When her students first climb into a truck — men and women — many get intimidated.

    Everything is bigger — the mirrors, the wheel and even the gearbox, since most students have never driven a stick shift.

    But once they turn the key, change gears and feel the subtle shift in the engine's rumble, the atmosphere transforms.

    "They feel the power, then everything changes," Williams says. "They're like 'Oh, oh I'm gonna be a truck driver!'

    This story was produced by the Gulf States Newsroom, a collaboration between Mississippi Public Broadcasting, WBHM in Birmingham, Alabama, WWNO in New Orleans and NPR.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    When I was in the Air Force half a century ago, one of the young women in my dorm planned to become a trucker after her enlistment. I hope she got to do it; she was a very cool person.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021
  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021

    I just finished reading Billie Jean King's autobiography, "All In" that was recently published. And wow. She truly is one hell of an amazing woman and has done incredibly enormous things for equal rights. I casually followed her career but her book spells out an amazing amount of detail in all the areas where she's made great strides for women. I'm big on reading memoirs, and highly recommend this well-written book.

    Side note: HBO Max has a documentary "Billie Jean: Portrait of a Pioneer" which came out in 2006. I don't have HBO but plan to get it by Christmas and will be watching it.

    One huge take away from "All In". Billie Jean's husband, Larry King (not the TV host) was/is an absolutely incredible man. He began pointing out to her the inequalities she experienced, such as the poor treatment she received as a star tennis player while he, an equipment coach, had way better perks. In the early days of her Wimbledon matches, after she won, they would display her name as Mrs. L.W. King, another way to undervalue Billie Jean which Larry pointed out. He never tore down her aspirations for being a tennis superstar and promoted her success. Even after a scorned woman sued BJ for palimony, Larry stood by her and they remained married. After 22 years of marriage, they divorced. BJ has been with her partner and eventual wife Ilana Kloss over 40 years. Larry also remarried, and Billie Jean and Ilana are godparents to his two children.

    Larry King is one helluva man!

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