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  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited September 2021

    Being forced to carry a pregnancy to term makes women so very very vulnerable. Doing it in a context where so many women don't even have access to healthcare is actually heinous.

    I hope that legislative and judicial processes can overturn this law. And I hope there can be an IUD drive or something for Texas women.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    Magiclight, that is so spot on. I'm not sure we've ever earned the right to look down on any country's or faction's morality, but now we're scraping rock bottom.

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited September 2021

    Alice, definitely scraping the bottom, but Texas did not have far to go to get to their bottom. The Texas Legislature has declined to pass any broad expansion of state and federal health care coverage for uninsured Texan. So women must carry fetus to term without health care. Does Tx. wish both woman and fetus die?

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited September 2021

    It also means that Tx will not pay for medical care nor any form of nutritional support for those babies that are forced to be born. Pathetic outcome for both women and children.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021

    Cross posting from the liberal thread. (I didn’t add the red marker, it was already in the post).



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  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021
  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021

    I'm running out of brain cells to carry my anger. Between Covid, Texas (and most of the rest of the south) trying to drag us back to the 1950s, and politicians encouraging the worst citizens of the country to believe their lies, I really wonder if we have a future.

  • JKL2017
    JKL2017 Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2021

    I'm right there with you, Aice!


  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021

    Even more evidence that palaeolithic artists were women.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2021

    I’ll be away from the boards for a few days, nothing serious or anything health related.

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2021
  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021
  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2021

    While I totally disagree with this Texas abortion law and do believe it will be overturned, I also find myself somewhat disappointed by all the attention it’s getting. Many may think otherwise but why are there not more voices raised for preventing pregnancy when it’s not in the plan? Contraceptives (by men and/or women) should be the bigger focus when possible, which I believe is the majority of situations. Insist on protection and if someone feels unable to do that, perhaps they should reevaluate that relationship. I am not victim blaming, I just don’t understand feeling like a victim, we are capable of so much, why isn’t controlling our lives any different?

    This refers to the common reasons for unintended pregnancy, which is often poor/no prevention, I am not referring to rape, incest, molestation.

    What fo you all think is the root cause or should get more attention?

  • Latte123
    Latte123 Member Posts: 30
    edited September 2021

    Illimae, There are many voices advocating for preventing pregnancy. And there are many others who are strongly against it. Since you are referring to Texas, it reminds me of a documentary about a teen fighting against abstinence only education in Lubbock, Texas. I don’t know if the issues are the same as when the documentary was made, but I’m guessing they are in many places. Here’s a link to the Wikipedia article about the documentary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Education_of_Shelby_Knox

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2021

    Latte, being in the “Bible Belt” certainly doesn’t help. In my opinion, abstinence only education is just not reasonable and hasn’t been for at least 60 years.

  • muska
    muska Member Posts: 1,195
    edited September 2021

    @ Illimae

    I am somewhat disappointed the new Texas law is not getting enough attention, but I hope I am just being impatient and young women are organizing.

    Prevention is very important but the conversation should not digress from the core which is women’s right to make decisions. There will always be cases when prevention didn’t work or circumstances have changed or health issues struck.

    I watched The Bird Cage yesterday- great movie, I have seen it many times. The dialogues never get old and are as funny now as they were 25 years ago when the movie was made. Few things have changed.

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2021

    Muska, I completely agree about our right to make these decisions. My focus is more on prevention because it’s typically far easier mentally and physically than an abortion. My husband and I had an accident once and I am beyond grateful to have been able to get a morning after pill, despite the pharmacist glare but friends of mine who’ve had abortions dealt with big emotions and still do, it’s definitely not easy.

  • muska
    muska Member Posts: 1,195
    edited September 2021

    Illimae, I hear the morning after pill is under threat too in Texas?

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2021

    Muska, I don’t think so, I’m pretty sure it was just the actual abortion procedure after the “heartbeat” is verified but I could be wrong. I haven’t read it myself, just going by local news reports.

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited September 2021

    Yes, Abbott apparently has plans to sign a regulation to further restrict access to the morning after pill according to a report I saw today.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2021

    Yes, I saw that too - no pill. I agree that we desperately need "sex education". I also agree that if women are going to get called out & punished, the man should receive the same. It's difficult to impregnate yourself.

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2021

    beaverintx, thanks for the info. Well, I don’t like that either but I looked it up and at least it’s not an outright ban. It does reduce the timeframe for a doctor to prescribe it from 10 weeks down to 7 weeks. It’s unfortunate. I wish the right to lifers would embrace preventing pregnancy instead.

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited September 2021

    I wish the forced birthers would mind their own damned business. They are not pro life, they're anti women.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2021
  • mommamonaster
    mommamonaster Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2021
  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2021
  • Latte123
    Latte123 Member Posts: 30
    edited September 2021

    Illimae and everyone, The Guttmacher Institute is a great resource for learning more about contraception and abortion (and other issues). Here is a link which includes information about unintended pregnancy. https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/pregnancy/unintended-pregnancy

  • mommamonaster
    mommamonaster Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2021

    I don't know if anyone is familiar with The Satanic Temple, but they have an Abortion Ritual donation card that you can send to the governor of Texas.

    TST is a political organization that advocates for body autonomy/women's rights. The Abortion Ritual(up to 24 weeks) is meant to give women a way around restrictive abortion laws via religious exemption laws. If you go to their site and read their current posting, they are ready to go to court w/Texas if the need arises. They're just waiting for a member to initiate the lawsuit.

    They are currently paying the legal fees for several members in litigation with other states that have overly restrictive abortion laws.

    Heads up - they are not a GERF/TERF friendly organization. Gay/Trans rights are another if their platforms.

  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited September 2021

    I believe reliable birth control should be available FREE to anyone who wants it. Here in Colorado, free long-acting birth control (IUD, implant) led to a 42% reduction in abortions (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/colorado-birth-c...)

    The Texas law is very frightening, as it should never have been allowed to stand. I was raised extremely pro-life by an extremely pro-life mother and am very familiar with the subject. The goal is to outlaw abortion nationwide. Calling pro-lifers "anti women" isn't helpful nor accurate, though. They are typically good people who have lost sight of the full picture. They can't see the forest for the trees, so to speak. They honestly believe that outlawing abortion will help women. They truly don't see the harm this type of law will cause. We need to be vocal about it or laws like this will spread to more states. There are already a number of legislators interested in bringing similar laws to their states.

  • Latte123
    Latte123 Member Posts: 30
    edited September 2021

    One of the issues in considering abortion access and pregnancy prevention is violence against women. This is a helpful opinion piece from a Texas writer, with some links to research articles, about reproductive coercion and its relationship to abortion.

    "Reproductive coercion occurs when a partner uses verbal threats or physical force to try to control the reproductive choices of another person. It includes trying to impregnate a partner against her will, controlling the outcome of a pregnancy, forcing a partner to have unprotected sex, and interfering with contraception."

    https://womensenews.org/2021/09/texas-abortion-ban...

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