STEAM ROOM FOR ANGER

Latte123 - I'm so sorry about your progression. I have a difficult time separating cancer from COVID. I'm reminded every time I go to my medical appointments which are much more frequent than when I was stage III.

NotAsCalm, mistyeyes - When I first met my MO and diagnosed as stage III, he warned me that my treatment would be hard and I'd hate him. It was hard. I didn't hate him. I worked the side effects the best I could.

moth - I have a set of nesting glass bowls from Canadian Tire. There are 4 different sizes, but they designed them so that 3 of the bowls have the same size lid. Magic!

My last COVID check-in for my Xgeva shot, the receptionist asked the usual exposure questions. No, no, no. Then she asked, "So, you're in good health?" I was too stunned except to nod.

Wrenn,

Who gets to decide to delay your annual breast exam? That sounds dangerous. It it your province that allocates care or did you personally decide it wasn't worth the risk, given Covid? What is happening for the "unlucky ones"? Sometimes Canadian women bash the US system but I think there are pros and cons with each system. Hope that you soon will be able to get the care that you need.

moth - Hope I didn't get your hopes up about the bowls. I can't find any online that would be similar. Now I'm going to be extra careful with them.

I agree with Wrenn, that if the issue currently on the table is covid and how we feel about it and how it affects us, then we should be free to say what we need/want to say. My main contention is that I am opposed to FORCE and govt editing of inconvenient voices. I would be mortified beyond words to find the very same behaviour here. This thread, despite the current topic, remains a place where anyone can say anything they need to rant, rave and holler into the wind about. Whether heavy handed or soft gloved, the free flow and feeling of open availability is tainted when 'handlers' move in to tell us we must play nice. I think we have played nice. Not on the same team, but nice. 

runor,

In theory I agree with you and I don’t think anyone was too rough on others despite the hot button topic. About six months ago I was kicked off of a knitting forum. The stated craft, knitting and crocheting was the main topic. Also like bco there are threads on numerous other topics. For a fairly long period of time members expressed their opinions on non-knitting topics without any limits or moderation. It went from slightly contentious to truly disgusting. I won’t go into details but let’s just say some folks sought personal info on those they disagreed with and it wasn’t to send them greeting cards. I complained to admin on the forum, privately as well as publicly because I simply couldn’t understand how they could just sit back and let things descend into gross incivility. Admin simply replied that we were all adults and should behave as such and then shortly after disabled my account. I don’t regret any of my comments which were polite and respectful. I also mentioned bco which is for the most part well moderated. What did upset me is that left to their own devices these so called adults degenerated into their worst selves. Sometimes, though I wish it wasn’t so, boundaries will need to be imposed .

PS: The forum was not Ravelry, which is my avatar (their old logo, now changed)

SerenitySTAT, lol, ok so I can stop looking on the Cnd Tire website... (their online store really sucks anyway)

Exbrnx- you got kicked off a knitting forum?! How is that even possible? I pictured you doing something dastardly like running with knitting needles, which ranks right up there with running with scissors and other such loose cannon behaviours. I shake my head over you being booted unless everyone who partook of the knitting knife-fight was equally booted. But who am I to talk. I got booted off a chicken forum once. No one runs with chickens. I don't think anyone has posted private threats, have they? At least I haven't received any and if anyone would, it would be me. I think despite our differences at the end of the day what unites us (cancer and the misery it brings) is stronger than what divides us. I hope. 

AliceB - I think it was you who asked where I (or people holding my position) might be getting our information and why I don't post supporting documents. That is a solid question that I think is worth answering. Since this started I have been online following several 'minds' and the ongoing discussion they have over current topics and guest interviews. So I am not seeking out hard copy data as much as listening to other people hash out what that data might mean. Statistics are a slippery fish! Fine print matters. Missing context leads people to incorrect or incomplete understanding. My list contains minds that are on opposite sides of this debate. In order to round out my views and give myself the most information, I want to know how ALL sides are thinking / feeling about the issue. So I listen to those who routinely are not of my ethical stripe. Sometimes I shake my head and say no, I can't buy this. But other times I think, you know, he has a point and that is a way to see this that I had not thought of before. So I cannot give you hard paper evidence. I can only tell you that for a year and a half I have frequented these sites (and several others but mainly these) because I found them intelligent, measured, fair, rational, amusing and thought provoking. I am not posting my list so someone can kick the stuffing out of it. Or cherry pick the ones  they like and denigrate those they consider quacks. Like I said, this list contradicts itself, but I want my mind tugged at and not spoon fed only what I want to hear. I find that tug of war in this list. This list is not complete but these are the regularly listened to.

Triggernometry
Dr. Suneel Dhand
Dr. John Campbell
Dr. Scott Jensen
ZdoggMD
Darkhorse
UnHerd Lockdown TV
Lex Fridman
Rubin Report
Joe Rogan (until he left youtube and went to Spotify)

We never ate out much because my husband is a pretty good cook. He's found a local meat guy for deliveries. Good but pricey.

However the pandemic made us support our local ice cream shop. We have an embarrassing number of ice cream containers that I'm reusing for leftovers or anything else. The shop also gives out those coupons for a free scoop after so many purchases. When we went to get our free scoops, my daughter handed the coupons to the cashier. Her response was "These are all yours?"

moth - Oops! ☹️

KIDI - I had a rash, but not like hers. I already had a rash from a bug bite and taking Ibrance (which has rash as a side effect). Then I got Moderna. Rash got worse immediately, better when I stopped Ibrance, and worse when I restarted. I was diagnosed with AGEP, a drug induced skin reaction. Without Ibrance the second dose was pretty much fine except for a few spots that went away after applying cream. Hope all goes well with the biopsy and third dose.

Exbrnx, all my eggs in one basket, good one.

I got booted over my dog getting kicked in the head by a horse. The dog is an idiot. The dog knows better. The dog had been told to stay away from horses. But one day one of the horses was, well, horsing around, kicking and bucking for sheer glee when the idiot dog goes running in to get in on the play and CLONK! takes a hoof to the head. The horse was not kicking at the dog. The dog literally ran into the swinging feet of the horse. God, it was awful. Sounded like two coconuts being smashed together. Freaked the horse out, who in no way was expecting a dog to show up in the middle of everything. Dog let out a yelp, ran out of the pen, very quickly lost all sense of direction, collapsed and convulsed for a while. I stood there thinking, holy shit my dog is going to die!

Now, I know for some people their pets are their life and attain people status and no expense is too much to save a life. That is not our stance on dogs. We love and spoil our dogs and when there is obvious steps we can take to save them, we do. We do not skimp on vets. We have HORSES and have spent so much money on vets it would make your eyes bug out. But the dog had no outward lacerations or injuries. Whatever was going on was going on inside his skull. It was the Sunday of a long weekend. We've had the vet come out on long weekends for horses and you pay a serious premium for that. Aside from drilling a hole in the dog's head to relieve pressure, which I think carries its own risks, I couldn't imagine there was much a vet could do other than say, well your dog has a serious concussion, keep an eye on him, if he lives he lives and if he dies, he dies. So I did not call a vet.

After a few minutes the dog staggered to his feet and wobbled off in some cockeyed direction. I grabbed him and guided him slowly to the house and his bed and the next day he was his old self, no worse for wear but never again ran into the flailing hooves of an exuberant horse. I posted this story on my forum. I was called out by someone who has no kids and her dogs are her life and could not say enough bad things about me. So I told her to kiss my hairy ass. I got booted. Everyone got a shit kicking that week!

KBL,

There were periods of time, over the last 10 years, when there were some substantial spam attacks. I know that most of us have no trouble reporting those. Thankfully, it's been quite a while since we've seen that. I did report a member who told me to take my single bone met and shove it up my a** (she typed the letters out, no stars!). I think this post deserved to be reported and removed and it was.This is not a common occurrence as the mods are quite on top of it. Reporting fellow members is not something I take pleasure in but it’s sometimes necessary.

I've been banned from here after being reported. Cannot remember what I did.

Oh, I just remembered I was handed a short ban on bco many years ago. I mentioned the real name, first and last, of a member who had recently passed away. The reporter/s claimed that not only was I violating her privacy but I was upsetting them. The problem was, the late member had mentioned her own real name and often posted links to her personal blog. Once I explained this to the mods and they verified that what I said was true, I was fully restored to bco membership.

I use those big ice cream containers to pack home-made cookies to my daughter to who lives in another State and is a teacher. They have no time to make stuff since she works so much and he is a Pastor and working a lot too. It protects them well from breaking that way at least. Of course the mail always if there is anything fragile in there and think they are careful with the boxes too.

He took the last of the coffee! Coffee is not a privilege! 🤬