Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?

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  • Dawnbelle
    Dawnbelle Member Posts: 696
    edited August 2021

    Pagan here. Many moons ago when I was Dx I found this thread helpful in finding replies to those who offered prayers for my cancer.

    There are many Pagan “types” and most of us just love nature & the moon. We see the earth herself as a “Goddess” & are just kind & caring.


    No Pagan alive would push a God on you.

    They’d probably just offer you some sage & wish you well.

    Wishing love to those who were here with me, and to those whom are new to this journey. -D

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Dawnbelle, While I appreciate anyone who isn't a proselytizer, there are several pagan religions that do believe in gods, such as Asatru, neo-Roman, neo-Egyptian, and others. My lack of belief extends to all of these, not just the god of the old and new testament.

  • Dawnbelle
    Dawnbelle Member Posts: 696
    edited August 2021

    Not looking for a debate.

    I understand Paganism. I was just pointing out that most Pagans are actually peaceful loving people.

    You have a better shot of having vegans push a god down your throat.

    My 1st purpose of replying to you was to point out your usage of “pagan types.” I assure you, they are less condescending & argumentative than “atheist types.”

    I too am an atheist, while I practice the more natural side of paganism.


    My 2nd reason for posting was to calm any panic in those newly diagnosed. My biggest fear when I was Dx in 2009 was dying. As you can see, I have not. I attribute that to a healthy diet, peace in my home & garden & never worrying myself with issues that have no impact on my life.

    I tend to observe anger & arrogance in others.
    I never absorb it.

    May you find this thread ten years from now.

    I hope you offer kindest & reassurance to someone new, who is frightened by all of the new Dx dates.

    Us old timers tend to sail off into the sunset, leaving the less than positive side of this place far behind us


  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Well, that escalated pretty quickly. Perhaps a separate "Pagans with BC" thread might be appropriate.

  • Dawnbelle
    Dawnbelle Member Posts: 696
    edited August 2021

    what? Ma’am? I was one of the original members on this thread with the OP thedudess.

    Nothing escalated.

    You have a great day

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited August 2021

    so if only I'd worried less I wouldn't have had a metastatic recurrence???

    Observe my anger.

    You know I love bco but I do not love this bizarre self congratulatory streak some people have for why they're still alive while so many of us are dead or dying. It happens among the religious folks attributing it to some divine intervention and now here too...

    Anger anger anger

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited August 2021

    Easy, friends, let's please dial it back a bit. I'm quite certain no one meant anyone any harm.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    I dunno, Miriandra, it's amazing how much harm a beating with a smug weapon can inflict, and sadly, it can, like friendly fire, be collateral damage.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited August 2021

    I’m not one who believes stress/worries cause cancer. Living stress-free is a nice concept not always practical in every day life. Keeping stress low is a priority for me but not because I think it will cure me. When I am caught up in stress I have less time to do the many things I’d rather be doing rather than dealing with stress. I see the limited time line and keep in mind the saying “become aware of what’s really worth your energy.”

    It feels to me, in simplest form, there are two types of people who say they’re praying for me. One type says it to acknowledge that they see I’m having challenges, that they care about me. They know they can’t jump in and fix things, their offer of prayer is a show of support. The other type is the kind who think their beliefs are gonna cure me. If they get the church congregants to pray and stick me on a weekly prayer list, eeeeven better! Total disregard of the medical field, no knowledge of mbc, they just think it’s as simple as saying three our fathers and two hail marys and poof! I’ll be healed.


  • Elderberry
    Elderberry Member Posts: 993
    edited August 2021

    ......just don't give me dogma and doctrine. "Have you found Jesus"..."No. Why is He lost?" "Only though Jesus can you find God"

    Even Pagans/Wiccans can get tied up in doctrine/dogma. Are you Gardnerian, Alexandrian, Dianic, Reclaiming? Tit for Tat.

    I believe there is an "Energy" out there. A life force but I don't attribute it to a Divine Being. Pagans might refer to it as the "Turning of the Great Wheel" I do like that - Birth, vigorous life, withering, death" around and around we go.

    A friend of mine once said "I took LSD and saw God. I think we were both disappointed" Ha ha




  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited August 2021

    Wish I had some LSD. Had some of the best times ever! However, I guess I will go pull some weeds and commune with nature.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited August 2021

    Depending on the "weeds" you pull, you might get close. ;)

    A neighbor on NextDoor.com posted a picture of spurge invading their yard. Some poor fool thought it looked like arugula and suggested they use it in a salad. 0_0 I had to post that spurge is poisonous and the sap can cause skin irritation for people with latex sensitivities. I hope Mr. Arugula learned something that day.

  • nopink2019
    nopink2019 Member Posts: 329
    edited August 2021

    For people who really practice Christianity, I can understand when they say they're praying for me or ask for prayers for a very difficult situation in their life.While I don't respond that I'm praying for them, I do try to make a note to follow up with a call or text to see how they're doing. The prayer requests that really floor me are like one I got from a friend who is taking a vacation and she wanted all of her friends to pray that her flight was on time because it would be such an inconvenience if she missed a few hours with her daughter. The Christianity I grew up with 40-50 years ago would call this self-serving, or possibly just irreverent and comical.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited August 2021

    nopink, yes, that kind of self-centered prayer is ghastly. Why concern yourself with the homeless or with domestic abuse when you can use your free spin on avoiding flight delays? I have even listened to a preacher in church talk about praying to get a parking spot close to the doors of a store. Wow. Why don’t we all just carry a genie bottle around and rub it any time we need luck to turn in our direction?

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited August 2021
  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021
  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited August 2021

    In the paper today they said the head chaplain at Harvard is an atheist. He teaches classes on humanism. The funny part is that he was elected unanimously by the other chaplains at the college. They said he's very cooperative and open to their views. He's really needed by students leaving their religious backgrounds but searching for something.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Wren44, that's so encouraging!

  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited August 2021

    Alice you are heading for hell! LOL

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited August 2021

    If only Jehovah's (according to my sanctimonious brother) go to heaven, then Alice, hell is where you want to be. You'll have lots of good company.

  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited August 2021

    I heard a fun joke the other day. God was going to sue the devil. The devil said good luck finding a lawyer in heaven. If there are any lawyers on this post...sorry.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Oh, all the best and most interesting people will be in the Netherworld. Or the Netherlands. Or Nether-Netherland. Chocolate, tulips, Peter Pan, and weed for everyone in the hereafter!

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Oh, and lovely Edam and Gouda in the Netherworldlands!

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2021
  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited August 2021

    Took me a minute, Alice, but that's hilarious. I live around the corner from a Jehovah's witness church. They used to come around constantly when I first moved here, a gaggle of Hispanic ladies in their dresses and hats. They stopped coming to my house after a while. I think the word got back to them to not annoy the crazy lady with purple hair.

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2021

    Trish...the world needs more "crazy lady with purple hair."

  • Elderberry
    Elderberry Member Posts: 993
    edited August 2021

    Alice: I laughed out loud with the mice!!! We once lived in a house close to a Kingdom Hall. They never bothered us. It seemed for them like a good plan not to bother their neighbours. At another time , another house, we had the President of the local Hells Angels chapter living next door. He was a really good neighbour. Give me a burly guy with a big bike any time over someone with a case brimming with copies of The Watchtower.

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited August 2021

    Trishyla, when the Bible beaters come around my house I say “I’m not buying anything, thank you”, they say “oh, we’re not selling anything” and I reply “aren’t you though?”. They understand immediately and walk away, no rebuttal, just silence.

  • Elderberry
    Elderberry Member Posts: 993
    edited August 2021

    Way back when when I was living in a tiny apartment at the top of an old house (not the place close to the Kingdom Hall) I decided the living room needed a lick of paint. I put on a head scarf to protect my hair from drips when I was doing the ceiling. There was a knock on the door so I went down to see who it was. There was the bulging case of Watch Towers. I decided to not even give her an opening so I said "I am sorry, but I am Muslim". I am not but I thought maybe that statement and my scarf might do it. She replied "Oh my - I have never met one of God's Little Brown Children" WTF. Brown? Children? Beside the condescending tone, I am Irish/Scottish/French. I have a black friend who once said "You are so white, you'd glow in the moonlight" I just replied "I am closing the door now" and shut it in her face.


  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Elderberry, When my husband was Very Catholic instead of his current Sorta Catholic, he belonged to the St. Vincent de Paul thingy. Mostly all they did, in the barely-working class neighborhood where we lived at the time, was deliver food boxes to anyone who needed them, no questions asked about religious affiliation, no preaching. It was one of the few churchy things that particular parish, at least, got right. One of the members looked like such a Hell's Angels type - long hair, beard (much rarer in the 80s), burly bod with tattoos, the whole look. But he was actually very sweet. Since there was quite a bit of street crime in that neighborhood, Biker Bod Guy was VERY popular and in high demand as a food distribution partner of the geekier looking members. One advantage of bad neighborhoods - not many squeaky clean JWs annoying the residents!

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