Freaking out: Found a lump… is it breast cancer?
I'm shaking as I'm writing this…
This morning while lying in bed, I did a little self breast exam. On my right breast, I felt what I think is a little lump just below the nipple—but it's hard to tell because I have fibrous breast tissue and have ever since starting my breastfeeding journey (also why I found it hard to do self exams while breastfeeding). The lump isn't too large, but definitely noticeable. It almost feels like a raised portion of breast tissue as opposed to a true lump or round cyst (e.g. it's not really something I can grab a hold of, if that makes sense).
I stopped breastfeeding my daughter in April/May - about 18 months after she was born. But I actually stopped nursing on my right side (the same side I felt the lump) about 9-10 months in because I got what I was told was mastitis on that side and it manifested as a lump in my breast that was red and warm to the touch—and after that, that side stopped producing much milk (but anytime she did try to nurse from that side, she stopped anyway, almost like it tasted different). Now I'm wondering if maybe there was some correlation…
Anyway, if anyone has had experience with this, I was just hoping to learn more about how you discovered you had breast cancer, what it felt like, any other symptoms you had, etc. I am, as I'm sure you were, extremely anxious, and it's all I can think about. I thought I was maybe imagining things so I asked my husband to feel and he said he felt it too. 😢
I have an annual checkup scheduled for Sept. 2 (2 weeks away) but I'm wondering if I should try to move my appointment up…
ETA: I didn't have any breast pain prior to finding the lump—except now I do have a little bit of pain since I have been massaging the lump and surrounding breast tissue trying to determine what I'm feeling.
Comments
-
Jlynn, I'm sorry for your worries. There's no way for any of us to guess what the lump is, and telling you what ours felt like (or didn't, as the case may be) or how we found it won't really help you.
What will help you is good information with clinical exam, and possibly some imaging. There is likely NO urgency on doing this before Sept 2 for your physical health. Two weeks is not a long time, in terms of that. Whether or not you can wait that long for your mental well-being is something only you can know. If it were me, I'd probably call or message in (if you have a patient portal like mychart) and let your doc's office know what's going on. They might want to schedule you for imaging (mammogram or ultrasound) between now and 9/2, or they might want to or be able to reschedule your exam appt. They might want to have you see a PA or NP sooner and keep the 9/2 appt as is. Anyway, check with your doctor's office. If nothing else, it will give you the sense that you're doing something about it.
Until then, please don't make assumptions about what is wrong or what it means for your future. Sounds like you have your hands full with a toddler, so try to keep busy with happier thoughts if you can.
-
And quit poking around on your breast, because it will hurt more and get you to thinking even worse things are happening. And don't Google because Dr. Google is a quack.
-
Just want to welcome you Jlynn! I hope you get some answers soon - you should since you have an upcoming appointment... Please check back in and let us know what's recommended and how you're doing....
-
Hello JLynn, and welcome to Breastcancer.org.
It's good that you are having that lump checked, but please, keep in mind that especially in young women, the vast majority of breast lumps turn out to be benign. The article What Mammograms Show: Calcifications, Cysts, Fibroadenomas from the main Breastcancer.org site describes some of the benign results that can come from testing. It may reassure you until your appointment in September. Please, come back to let us know what you learn!
Best,
The Mods
-
Hi again— just coming back to post an update after a very LONG, stressful few weeks…
After my initial post, I did end up moving my appointment up to the following Monday (8/23) with an NP. She did a breast exam and admitted she didn't do many but would refer me for a mammogram + ultrasound since she did feel the lump as well. That same week, they got me in for an appointment—had the mammogram first, then went back out to that little room to wait, full of nerves. Then I got the dreaded request to come back for some additional images. Afterward, I went for the ultrasound across the hall. I was already crying at this point as I was feeling overwhelmed by the whole process. I kept thinking, "I'm only 33, with three young kids. This is probably nothing."
After the initial ultrasound with the tech, she left the room and came back in with the radiologist, who told me she wanted to take a look herself since the tech was having trouble locating the areas of concern. Afterward, the radiologist put her hand on mine, looked me straight in the eyes and said, "You have a cluster of calcifications in your left side that may be DCIS, a pre-cancer. On the right side, you have a suspicious irregular mass that I'm concerned is a small cancer." I immediately began having a panic attach and crying. Then she said, "I know it's hard to process but I just want to be honest with you so you can mentally prepare for this. It's ok to cry." I could barely understand what she was saying through my anxiety and panic so I instead just wrote word for word what she was telling me in my phone's notes app. One direct quote I captured: "I am very very concerned. It's most likely cancer."
I'm not sure how I made the hour drive home because it's all a blur now, but I did. During the drive, I called my husband and broke down to him, telling him "they think it's cancer." He didn't admit this to me until late but apparently he broke down crying for a long time after we got off the phone but I never would have known—he had on such a brave and reassuring face when I got home. Over the next few days, convinced I had cancer, I fell into a deep depression. I began doing lots of research — reaching out to breast cancer survivors to hear their experiences, researching the various diagnoses and treatment options, pre-registering at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. I also told my boss (in case I'd need to miss work), our HR team (to discuss short term disability in case I needed to use it for treatment), family and friends… I tried to really mentally prepare.
In biopsy day, they took samples from each breast. The left side was vacuum assisted, the right was CNB (with the same radiologist from the ultrasound a few days prior). During the biopsy, I said to the radiologist: "Please tell me there's a chance this isn't cancer. I'm young, I have three young kids. I need to have hope." To which she replied: "it's a very, very slim chance." I was broken all over again. As I left the appointment, I was told I'd get a call by the next day with results.
The next day (a Friday), I received a call from the hospital and my heart began to race. When I answered, the voice on the other end said, "did you see your results in the patient portal? Your samples all came back benign, no cancer." I began crying, but this time they were tears of relief and shock. I had mentally prepared myself to hear the worst and didn't know how to handle the news. I told my husband, and I could immediately see the weight of the world lifting off his shoulders. He was able to breathe again. Over the next couple days, we shared the good news with family, friends, coworkers. I was feeling better, but I still was having trouble accepting the good news. I was afraid to trust it and then get bad news and fall back into that dark place all over again.
Here's the biopsy pathology report:
"Right breast: ultrasound-guided biopsy, 5:00, 4 cm from nipple: Fibrocystic changes, sclerosing adenosis, usual ductal hyperplasia and associated calcifications. Negative for neoplasia.
Left breast: stereotactic biopsies: Fibrocystic changes with associated calcifications and lactational changes. Negative for neoplasia."I had an appointment scheduled the following Monday with a breast surgeon (I'll call her Dr. W) to discuss next steps. The first thing she did when I met her was apologize for what the radiologist had told me - she said "that radiologist is a little excitable. You're not the first patient she has done that to unfortunately." I didn't know how to feel about that. Then she told me that since the biopsy results were benign, she feels very confident there's nothing to worry about, and if it were up to her, she would probably just monitor the area for the next couple years rather than operate to remove it. But since the imaging didn't align with the biopsy findings and it was considered a "discordant biopsy" she wanted me to have an MRI done - "as a tie breaker of sorts to decide if you need to have a surgery to remove the area or if we could just monitor it."
I had the MRI done the following week, and the report indicated no suspicious findings on the left but unfortunately the right showed:
"There is nonmass enhancement spanning 3.1 cm in the AP dimension at the site of recent biopsy in the lower central breast at middle to posterior depth. This correlates with the area of architectural distortion seen mammographically, which was deemed discordant on recent biopsy. T2 hyperintense 0.7 cm oval circumscribed mass with dark internal septations and benign kinetics located less than 1 cm immediately lateral to the biopsy site, consistent with a fibroadenoma. Additionally, there is a 1.2 x 0.8 x 0.8 cm T2 hyperintense mass with rapid initial enhancement and delayed washout kinetics in the axillary tail region (series 9, image 94). Mildly prominent level 1 axillary lymph nodes are likely reactive related to recent biopsy given normal sonographic appearance on 8/26/2021.
IMPRESSION
Nonmass enhancement spanning 3.1 cm at the site of recently biopsied architectural distortion in the right breast. Findings remain discordant with benign biopsy results. Excisional biopsy is recommended.
Mass in the right axillary tail region may represent a reactive low-lying axillary lymph node, but warrants further evaluation with second look ultrasound.
Postbiopsy changes in the left breast without MR evidence of malignancy.
CATEGORY BI-RADS: 4: Suspicious
MANAGEMENT:1. Second look ultrasound for the mass in the right axillary tail region.
2. Pending the above, excisional biopsy of the nonmass enhancement/architectural distortion in the right breast is advised."
I was contacted by the surgeon's office and told they were recommending surgical removal of the suspicious area - and a "second look" ultrasound of the one enlarged lymph node. I went in for the ultrasound and the radiologist (not the one from the previous ultrasound) told me she would recommend a biopsy of the lymph node since it was the only one enlarged and they'd expect more than one to be enlarged if it was just a reaction to the biopsy. I felt this was weird since there were no abnormal findings in my lymph nodes on the previous mammogram and ultrasound.
That day, I decided to meet with a different surgeon (I'll call her Dr. R) for a second opinion - who I was referred to by a couple friends who had gone to her, and she has a great reputation in the women's health community. During that initial meeting, she told me she didn't agree with their decision to schedule the MRI so soon after the biopsy—because it makes it difficult to tell the difference between biopsy-related inflammation and something else. She also told me she was pretty sure the lymph node was only enlarged due to the inflammation from the biopsy. I immediately trusted her and scheduled my excisional biopsy surgery with her for the following week. She told me she would do an ultrasound of the lymph node prior to the surgery and if it was still enlarged she would biopsy it during the surgery. I liked that plan. She also told me during that appointment that she was "leaning toward it being benign" and said "nothing about this screams cancer to me." That was enough to ease my mind until the surgery.
The excisional biopsy was this past Monday (9/13). I was a nervous wreck the morning of the surgery but it was over in 30 minutes and has so far been a relatively easy experience. In the recovery room immediately following surgery, Dr. R said to me: "After a preliminary review, it looks like just some radial scarring" - but that we wouldn't have the full pathology report back for 2-3 days. I questioned her multiple times about whether or not she thought it was cancer and she said "I feel very, very confident that it's not." I hadn't heard the term "radial scarring" before but it sounded harmless at the time, so I felt relieved and relaxed for the first time in weeks.
That was until I began researching "radial scarring" yesterday and found that it can sometimes accompany breast cancer, turn into breast cancer or be a risk factor for developing breast cancer in the future. And of course now I'm terrified again. I've scoured message boards and seen many people report having had radial scarring removed via excisional biopsy only to have the report come back positive for cancer cells within the radial scar. Or people who have had radial scars removed and then a year or years later developed breast cancer. And here I am again—in an anxiety spiral, obsessively researching and questioning everything. I just feel like I'm on the world's worst carousel ride and it won't stop, and I just WANT TO GET OFF. When can I get off? When will it end? I've been an emotional wreck for weeks now. I've been up and down, and now I'm feeling a bit numb—afraid to feel much of anything for fear of my world being turned upside down. All the while trying to still be a relatively present mother to my three kids and wife to my husband. They need me. I need to be strong and stay positive. It's just so hard sometimes…
I should get the final results back tomorrow or Thursday. Just praying and praying for good news.
In the meantime, I'd love to hear from anyone who can weigh in on radial scarring. Should I be terribly concerned?
Additional note: I submitted bloodwork for genetics testing and should get those results back in another week or so. Anxious to see if I have other risk factors -
YOu've definitely been on an emotional roller coaster!!! I have strong mixed feelings about whether or not radiologists should say anything to patients.... I'm sure what they tell patients has been wrong on both counts either needlessly worrying people as in your case (and I can't imagine) or giving people false hope at other times.... I'm sure they are correct a lot! I'm glad yours came back benign despite the mix of findings. I had a radial scar upon final pathology and I know others who have - no invasive cancer find. some consider radial scars benign though I have heard it can indicate future risk so some surgeons like to remove those areas. I've read other accounts where it's just been monitored. Do what you are comfortable with after talking more with your docs... Please let us know how that goes... Wishing you the best!
-
Thank you so much
I got a call from my surgeon with the results from my pathology report last night… confirmed BENIGN!!!! She told me it is a radial scar / complex sclerosing lesion. She also told me the size of the lesion was 7x7x5 mm, in an area of dense tissue - and they got it all with clean margins. I asked her about the risk of related cancer and she told me there are no cancer cells and it couldn't have turned into cancer, but having this does "slightly increase the risk of future breast cancer" (didn't love hearing that).
I asked if there are any preventative measures I can take now, and she said nothing right now—that I'll probably come back in a year for a follow up mammogram and go from there. I'm supposed to schedule a follow up visit appt with her in the next week or so and we will discuss further. I was so relieved when I got off the call! Finally I felt like this nightmare was over.
Then I logged onto my MyChart to check the full report and saw something that confused me. There's a section within the report called "Frozen section diagnosis: Complex sclerosing lesion with possible DCIS." The surgeon didn't mention this to me at all. Is this just from the preliminary review, and upon further review, no DCIS was found? Anyone familiar with these reports and how to read them?
Here’s how the report reads:
“FINAL DIAGNOSIS:
Right breast, 6:00, lumpectomy:
-Complex sclerosing lesion with associated radial scar.
-Previous biopsy site changes.
-Lesion appears clear of margins.
-No atypia or malignancy detected.
Frozen Section Diagnosis:
-Complex sclerosing lesion with possible DCIS. Deferred to routine processing.
-
I'm guessing you are probably 100% benign, but you could send the surgeon a message about the possible DCIS, in the portal or call. You need to have no concerns whatsoever. Best of luck, and congrats on a benign report.
-
Deferral for routine processing means that though they have made an assumption from looking at a frozen section, once the tissue is formalin fixed and embedded and sectioned they will have a more definitive answer. Preservation of morphology is better after formalin fixation as opposed to frozen sections. But it takes much longer, 24hrs usually.
Categories
- All Categories
- 679 Advocacy and Fund-Raising
- 289 Advocacy
- 68 I've Donated to Breastcancer.org in honor of....
- Test
- 322 Walks, Runs and Fundraising Events for Breastcancer.org
- 5.6K Community Connections
- 282 Middle Age 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 53 Australians and New Zealanders Affected by Breast Cancer
- 208 Black Women or Men With Breast Cancer
- 684 Canadians Affected by Breast Cancer
- 1.5K Caring for Someone with Breast cancer
- 455 Caring for Someone with Stage IV or Mets
- 260 High Risk of Recurrence or Second Breast Cancer
- 22 International, Non-English Speakers With Breast Cancer
- 16 Latinas/Hispanics With Breast Cancer
- 189 LGBTQA+ With Breast Cancer
- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 177 Singles With Breast Cancer
- 869 Young With Breast Cancer
- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
- 313 Stage II Breast Cancer
- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
- 132 All things COVID-19 or coronavirus
- 87 BCO Free-Cycle: Give or Trade Items Related to Breast Cancer
- 5.9K Clinical Trials, Research News, Podcasts, and Study Results
- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
- Family Issues for Those Who Have Breast Cancer
- 26 Furry friends
- 1.8K Humor and Games
- 1.6K Mental Health: Because Cancer Doesn't Just Affect Your Breasts
- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
- 704 Recommend Your Resources
- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
- 874 Working on Your Fitness
- 4.5K Moving On & Finding Inspiration After Breast Cancer
- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Life After Breast Cancer
- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
- 2.3K High Risk for Breast Cancer
- 18K Not Diagnosed But Worried
- 7.4K Waiting for Test Results
- 603 Site News and Announcements
- 560 Comments, Suggestions, Feature Requests
- 39 Mod Announcements, Breastcancer.org News, Blog Entries, Podcasts
- 4 Survey, Interview and Participant Requests: Need your Help!
- 61.9K Tests, Treatments & Side Effects
- 586 Alternative Medicine
- 255 Bone Health and Bone Loss
- 11.4K Breast Reconstruction
- 7.9K Chemotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 2.7K Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment
- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
- 7.8K Hormonal Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 7.4K Just Diagnosed
- 1.4K Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy
- 5.2K Lymphedema
- 3.6K Managing Side Effects of Breast Cancer and Its Treatment
- 591 Pain
- 3.9K Radiation Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 8.4K Surgery - Before, During, and After
- 109 Welcome to Breastcancer.org
- 98 Acknowledging and honoring our Community
- 11 Info & Resources for New Patients & Members From the Team