MD Anderson protocol her2 metastatic
Just diagnosed For metastatic her2 breast cancer to bones. Had her2 bc in 2115. Had TCH chemo. Herceptin failure. Added prejecta. Now metastatic her2. Oncologist calling md to see protocol. Will I have to have port? Please,tell,me most current protocol if you know. Also is it for life?
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I'm a bit unclear about your post. Why is your oncologist calling your MD (primary??) to ask about a protocol? Are you in the United States? MD Anderson will follow the NCCN guidelines for treatment of metastatic HER2+ breast cancer. Do you have those? It would help if you gave us your hormone status and your Stage & Grade.
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Yes,treatment is for life. If you failed Herceptin, you might start with Kadcyla. Getting a port is up to you and your doctor. I’m on IV meds but I never had a port
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my oncologist wants to follow MD Anderson protocol. I was going for a second opinion and basically he’s getting it I’m stage 4, er/pr+ Her2+. I had breast cancer in 2015::16 months of herceptin and 6 months of perjeta. I had mastectomy after I finished chemo and my tumor was still her2+. That’s when they added perjeta. I do not know NCCN guidelines. I thought when you are stage 4 with Mets you stayed on treatment for life. If is IV chemo I am worried about being tied down to chemo IV’s I guess I’m curious about quality of life with IV protocol and is it for life? I go Friday to find out my plan, but like I said I’m anxious and wanted o know y’all’s experiences and thoughts. Thank you.
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Ngj, I was diagnosed stage IV de novo and HER2+ with bone mets in November 2016 and have been treated at MDA since then.
Question, how you you know Herceptin failed? Did you have progression while on it or after the typical one year following initial chemo?
If Herceptin truly failed, I think TDM1 might be next, and yes anti HER2 infusions are likely every 3 weeks for as long as they work. I had a port from the beginning and I’m pleased with it. It’s been nearly 5 years and it’s easy, painless and saved my veins from so much poking.
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after 6 rounds of chemo combined with herceptin I had mastectomy and post mastectomy pathology found still cancer in axilla that had her2. They then combined prejecta for 6 more months. That was 2015. So now I have her2 metastatic to bones. I think I met you in zoom call. MD Anderson is doing protocol so I’m curious. I go Friday to find out. You have been very helpful. Thank you
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Ngj, interesting situation (from a medical perspective) but I’m sorry you’re going through it. Since your initial chemo did not provide a complete response per later pathology but you didn’t actually have progression until years later after systemic treatment had been completed, they may suggest H&P again or could opt to move directly to a 2nd line of treatment. Good luck Friday and if you feel like sharing the plan they come up with, I am interested in hearing about it.
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Ngi: I get H&P every three weeks. I use a port and I am happy to have it, even if it looks weird. It has saved the veins in my arms/hands. My two hands are free during infusion - so I can read books, sketch, do crosswords. The treatment is forever as long as it keeps doing its thing. Keep us posted
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I'm sorry to hear about the situation you're dealing with, but the good news is that for HER2+, hormone receptor negative MBC there are many options. With bone mets, you should be placed on a bone-directed therapy such as Zometa or Xgeva. And below from my book, "The Insider's Guide to Metastatic Breast Cancer" which is also available as a complimentary .pdf is a list of FDA-approved MBC treatments for your disease subtype. For more information please visit https://www.insidersguidembc.comI'd also suggest obtaining a second opinion.
I hope you respond well to your next treatment!
First Line Treatment:
• A "triplet" combination of Herceptin (Trastuzumab) (or an approved biosimilar, or a subcutaneous injection called Herceptin-Hylecta) along with Perjeta (Pertuzumab) and a Taxane chemotherapy is recommended for first-line treatment unless you have congestive heart failure or significantly compromised left ventricular ejection fraction (since Herceptin and Perjeta can cause heart damage).* Alternatively, Phesgo (an injectable combination of Herceptin, Perjeta, and hyaluronidase-zzxf) can be given with a Taxane.
Second Line Treatment:
• Kadcyla (TDM-1/Ado-trastuzumab emtansine) alone. This is the recommended second-line treatment.
• Tukysa (Tucatinib) with Xeloda (capecitabine) and Herceptin (or Herceptin Hylecta or a biosimilar) is another option (approved for HER2 positive MBC patients - including those with brain metastases - who have received 1 or more HER2-directed therapies in the metastatic setting).
Third-and Later-Line Treatment Options depend upon what treatments you've previously taken:
• A third- (or later-) line treatment is Enhertu (Trastuzumab Deruxtecan/DS-8201), which was FDA-approved in Dec. 2019 for HER2-positive MBC patients who have received two or more prior anti-HER2 based regimens in the metastatic setting.
• Another third- (or later-) line treatment is the combination of Nerlynx (Neratinib) plus Xeloda (capecitabine), which has been FDA-approved in Feb. 2020 for HER2-positive MBC patients who have received two or more prior anti-HER2 based regimens in the metastatic setting.
• Another option is Margenza (Margetuximab) in combination with chemotherapy for HER2-positive MBC patients who have received two or more prior anti-HER2 regimens, at least one of which was for metastatic disease.
Other options include:
• Herceptin (or Herceptin Hylecta or a biosimilar) and Perjeta, with or without chemotherapy (if the patient has previously taken Herceptin and chemotherapy without Perjeta). Alternatively, Phesgo, an injectable combination of Herceptin, Perjeta, and hyaluronidase-zzxf, can be given with or without chemotherapy.
• Herceptin (or Herceptin Hylecta or a biosimilar) with chemotherapy.
• Herceptin (or Herceptin Hylecta or a biosimilar) with Tykerb (Lapatinib).
• Tykerb with chemotherapy.
• A clinical trial. -
I’m starting with Kadcyla
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I’m starting with Kadcyla
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Good luck! Hope it works well for you with minimal side effects, thanks for updating
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Ngj, sending you good vibes for an easy and long run on this medication.
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any one taking kadcyla? If so any advice, experience to offer? Thank you in advance.
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Here's a link to a discussion of Kadcyla... https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topics/880191?page=1#top
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