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Thank you Redcanoe, I appreciate that. I see you are on Taxotere, which was a brand new chemo 18 yrs ago. I took it too.
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NoBananas,
There are some new chemos, but the Stage IV crowd gets them first. Xeloda is a relatively new chemo.
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No Bananas - Herceptin is the game changer for TP. Quarterly echos are ordered to check on your heart but it shouldn't send you to the hospital unless you have other co-morbidities. Special K Is the expert with the statistics and talk to your MO but I'm glad I did it. I had NO problems with Herceptin after I finished chemo. I was able to easily tolerate a 30 minute infusion every 3 weeks although some ask them to slow the drip down.
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oops I meant benefits of herceptin outweigh risks
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"My SIL had Herceptin at a younger age than I am now, and went into heart failure. I’m too far from a hospital if this happens"
It's very rare but, they do monitor for it and, it does heal on its own (generally). My November Echo had me borderline but, the MO decided to proceed. I was worried that my February Echo would put my Kadcyla on hold but, my last echo was actually better than the previous 3 (55, 55, 45) February has me at 60.
If you're really worried about heart issues, I would say go with TCH over AC+T-H. Actually for your size tumor you might be able to get away with Taxol+Herceptin which (from what I'm told) is easier on the body. I've heard there's a new protocol (or perhaps it's still in trial) where you can do 17 rounds of Kadcyla (Herceptin bonded to a Chemo drug) and, avoid Taxol or Taxotere, Carboplatin, etc).
Personally, I handle Kadcyla very well but, there are others who really struggle with it so I don't know how great it is for 17 cycles (1 year) vs 11 weeks of Taxol or 5 months of TCH.
That is interesting that it's a new cancer and where it popped up. Glad you caught it so quickly. Although, I'm still sorry you have to go through this almost again.
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Hi everyone, I had my last round of TCH yesterday and will just be on Herceptin for the rest of the year. I'm looking forward to starting to regain some strength and energy and getting back to being me! Just wanted to share my news with some people who actually understand what this truly means. 🥳
No more steroid or Neulasta!!!! The worst part for me.
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Congratulations on completing Chemo proper!
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Good news, MsMurphy! I hated the steroids, too. I just loathe insomnia.
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Congratulations MsMurphy! Me too!! I go back for Herceptin next week. And starting radiation in 2 more weeks!
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morrigan_2575, may I ask, were you diagnosed twice within 6 months of a different cancer? While you were already on treatment? Or am I reading your profile wrong
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I had Chemo before surgery so the first is a clinical staging the second is the surgical staging, same cancer.
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Thank you morrigon_25. That’s relieving to know. My sister had a 6cm tumour, intertwined in her nerve bundle against the back of her chest. She had copious radiotherapy and chemotherapy, no surgery, and she has been cancer free for 14 yrs.
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Hallo Group! Thought I would come on here since I had my yearly check-up the other day. It was all clear. I have been doing ok since 2017. Thought it would be a positive note this day of spring. I got my first vaccine shot - Pfizer - and hope that will not mess anything up.
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Question for those who did TCH or TCHP, did anyone else not lose all their hair? I'm 4/6 cycles in and still have a fuzz. My taxotere was reduced 20% after the second cycle, maybe that is why? I also had to take an extra week before my 4th cycle and all my chin hair grew back 🙃
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Hi Redcanoe!
I had the exact same reaction under TCHP. I never completely lost my hair and had the same hair as you do in the above pic. Mine was even thinner! I’m not sure if they adjusted the Taxotere near the end of my chemo, but I definitely never lost all my hair, just some thinning of the eyebrows.
The best part is when it starts growing in! Mine came back full of curls that I always wanted and even the hair color I used to dye my hair to at a younger age. It is so fulfilling to me to be able to play with and comb my hair. You will get there too! Oh, and the hair that starts growing back is so soft, it’s just so cozy to run your hands through your new hair
Warm Hugs,
Phoenix
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Kattis!
So happy to hear that you are still all clear and that you're doing well! I got the Pfizer vaccine, too. After both shots, the only thing I noticed was that my arm was a little sore in the area of the shot.
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msmurphy - yay!
kattis - hi! Good to see you! I have had both Pfizer injections on the advice of my MO - I was a tad reluctant because I am allergic to so many medications. I had almost zero reaction to the first injection, but the second was a doozy - I was down for a couple of days, but worth it to provide the protection for myself and others.
I had the same hair situation on TCH - never lost it all, no dose reductions, didn't lose all brows or lashes either.
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Hello everyone - I was happy that I was done 6 rounds of TCHP and I would just be on Herceptin. But today when I went for round 7, they added Perjeta! I had been struggling with diarrhea already and Perjeta appears to be famous for this.
For those who had been on Perjeta and Herceptin after 6 rounds of TCHP - could you please share your experiences? We're you able to complete the 11 rounds? What were your side effects? Did it affect your hair regrowth? Did you have to drop Perjeta? How was your experiences with HP vs TCHP?
Please let me know so that I can prepare for it. Thanks!
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Hi hopeful2020 - I just completed my 5th HP on Tuesday. I do get diarrhea but just for a day or so after treatment. My MO suggested taking Imodium before treatment and that seems to help. I take lomotil for subsequent bouts. I usually am tired the day after and take Tylenol for headache. I just take it easy and relax most of the day. The efffects have not been cumulative for me, so I’m back to my normal self after a day or two. My hair growth is slower than before BC, but it’s growing back. Most of my SE seem to be from letrozole. Best of luck with your treatment.
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Thanks Nsbrown54. That helps. I had diarrhea end of day yesterday after infusion which has never happened in the 6 rounds of TCHP on day 1. I am not sure how I am going to make it through 11 more rounds at this rate.i hope it settles down as I really don't want to take immodium all the time. How have your day's been with TCHP vs HP?
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hopeful2020 - After TCHP treatments, I had to go in for extra IV fluids 3-4 days after treatment, sometimes weekly as I got to later rounds of treatment. I had vomiting and diarrhea for 5-7 days after. Some days I could barely get out of bed. With HP, so far I’ve only had a day or two of diarrhea. No nausea or vomiting. I drink Gatorade and water throughout the day to stay hydrated I’m much more active and my blood work has improved. A little tired for a day or two, but much easier for me than TCHP treatment.
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Thank you so much NsBrown and JavaJana. This is very helpful. When my MO said not everyone will tolerate Perjeta for a year my heart almost sank thinking of all that I would have to endure for her to stop. Hopefully it won't be too bad. I do feel better after my first HP yesterday without the TC. I would be so bloated and uncomfortable after TCHP. I do notice I have bad diarhea with meat and fish. Need to stay vegetarian.
Hope I continue to improve and I can have my hair back soon! My Hb was 8.6 borderline yesterday. Anything to try to get the RBC and Hb back up? WBC with Neulasta on last round didn't go to the usual 7s and stayed at 4.5 and Mg low at 1.3. I have gotten 3 Mg infusions so far.
How long does it take to normalize the blood counts?
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Hi hopeful2020 - my last TCHP was mid-October. I have other preexisting health conditions that I’m dealing with and am 66 years old. I don’t bounce back as quickly as I did when I was younger. 🙂
It was about 3 months for some of blood levels to return to normal and for me to feel up to becoming more active. From what I’ve read, it can take up to a year to feel back to normal after chemo is completed. Everyone responds differently. My RBC and HG are still a bit low. Nothing really alarming. I’m sure it has to do with my diet, which is very restricted.I had trouble with my potassium and magnesium levels. Potassium is back to normal and my magnesium is improving. I get magnesium Infusions when I go for HP and take 250mg magnesium oxide every day, per my MOs recommendation.
Does your oncology center have a nutritionist on staff? They might be able to make some diet recommendations to help with improving your blood counts
My hair is growing back, slower than I’d like. I’ve been taking pictures monthly and definitely see that it’s coming along. I’m still wearing caps when I’m out and about, mostly because my head gets cold.
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Hopeful- I had perjeta for my all of my infusions (including TCH) and made it through all of the HP infusions with minimal diarrhea. I did have lomotil for diarrhea during my rounds of TCHP and that seemed to help, but the further I got out from my last TC infusion the less digestive issues I seemed to have. I hope the same for you
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Thank you for responding NsBrown and ajminn. Good to know that Perjeta isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Immodium helps with diarrhea and haven't had to move to Lomotil yet. Definitely have to watch what I eat. Yes there is a nutritionist on staff. I will contact her about the blood count. Thanks for the idea.
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hopeful - protein is what will encourage your RBC and hemoglobin to rebound. Try the usual sources if you can - meats/poultry/fish, but also Greek yogurt, nuts and nut butters, eggs, fortified cereals are good sources. For surgical healing 100g is optional, and in reality you are "healing" your blood counts. Time is your friend in this, it took about six months or more for my counts to come up. I had five surgeries prior to chemo and a couple during the Herceptin only phase so that made it a bit more challenging for my counts.
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Thank you SpecialK. I seem to be getting better with meat now vs before when it was hard to digest. I am so tired of eggs already. That was all I could eat during the 6 rounds of chemo. I hope the counts and Hb come back up soon. Always cold and tired. 🙄
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hopeful2020,
You may never eat eggs again after chemo. I no longer eat some of the foods that helped me through chemo. They just bring bad memories.
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Yes ElaineTherese.. so true.
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How do you deal with the mental side effects? I'm having a really hard time. When I found out the cancer was in my lymph nodes in December, I fell into a pretty serious depression. Couldn't stop crying, lost 15 pounds from not eating. My doctor put me on Lexapro and I started to feel like myself again. I have been very good about taking my antidepressant but I am back to crying every day. I am also going through a divorce after finding out my husband, who I dated/was married to for 15 years was cheating on me the whole time and had another child. I was not healed from that when I found the cancer. Now he has a new girlfriend and he introduced the kids right away and she met my inlaws on the weekend. I'm just so broken down. My self esteem was so low after finding out the infidelity, now I am bald and one breast is bigger and higher up than the other, I'm missing a nipple too. Sounds like I can't have reconstruction for two years. I'm crying so much. I think I have to talk to my chemo nurses about it when I go in tomorrow.
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