BI-RADS 3 - requested biopsy

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WorriedManda
WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
edited February 2021 in Not Diagnosed But Worried

Hello,

I have seen that djmammo is out on leave so I do not expect a response (well wishes!). However, this has to be the hardest thing to move past! I have posted my mammo & US findings below. Although this was in Nov. 2020 the more I have pondered on it and stressed out over it, I have requested a biopsy. Yes, I am sure it sounds crazy; however, I have had 2 friends in the last 3 weeks diagnosis with breast cancer. It isn't something I plan to just deal with and am a true believer of being proactive with my health. Any input would be very much appreciate!


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Addendum

Correction: The patient has a family history of breast cancer in her

mother at age 45. This does not change recommendations for six month

follow-up mammogram and ultrasound of the left breast, however biopsy

is available to the patient if she desires.


Study Result

HISTORY: Patient presents for evaluation of a left breast lump.


TECHNIQUE: Bilateral digital diagnostic mammography, with

tomosynthesis, implant displaced views and spot compression views of

the left breast. Images were reviewed by CAD. Targeted ultrasound of

the left breast was also performed.


COMPARISON: Mammography 3/7/2018


FINDINGS: The breasts are extremely dense, which lowers the

sensitivity of mammography. No suspicious mass, calcifications,

architectural distortion or asymmetry is present. Bilateral

subpectoral silicone implants are in place. In the region of a

radiopaque BB, there is a faint 4 mm mass with an internal coarse

calcification. Targeted ultrasound of the 3:00 left breast, 5 cm from the nipple, in

the patient's area of concern, demonstrates a 3 x 2 x 4 mm hypoechoic

mass with a small internal echogenic focus suggestive of a

calcification. These findings are suggestive of fibroadenoma.


IMPRESSION:

BIRADS 3 - Probably benign.


RECOMMENDATIONS: Recommend six month follow-up mammogram and

ultrasound evaluation of the left breast. The patient should return

promptly for further evaluation if this area increases in size.

*Please note that normal imaging should not prevent further

investigation/biopsy of a clinically suspicious finding.*

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  • ctmbsikia
    ctmbsikia Member Posts: 1,095
    edited January 2021

    There's nothing wrong with requesting a biopsy if that's what's going to give you peace of mind, and your insurance will cover it.

    When I 1st got a Birads 3 the word "probably" really threw me. Once I understood the scoring system, a 3 is just that, probably benign. I sure hope that will be the case with you. Good luck. Be sure to get your mammo every year.

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2021

    Thank you for the quick reply; can I ask if your rating progressed? Or if your 3 was much more prior to your dx? I am not assuming that because I am a 3 that it is malignant however asking more out of curiosity My mother was dx at 45 so I have had mammograms since I was 32; now soon to be 37. So fun!


    Thanks again!

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2021

    WorriedManda, I think with suspected fibroadenomas, the patient's age makes a big difference. Fibroadenomas are the most common lumps in teenage girls and young women in their 20s. Because the breast cancer risk is so low at these ages, if imaging shows something that looks to be a fibroadenoma, usually all that is recommended is follow-up screening.

    But for older patients, particularly those about 40 and above, because there are more serious conditions that on very rare occasions can mimic the appearance of a fibroadenoma, and because the risk of breast cancer at those ages is higher, usually a biopsy is recommended.

    How old are you? While this is most likely to be nothing more than a harmless fibroadenoma, given your family history of breast cancer, personally I'd think that if you are in your mid-30s or older, having a biopsy is probably wise. That said, I don't think you should be worried - this is highly likely to turn out to be nothing, and the size is so small it's amazing it was even found!

    Good luck with it! When is your biopsy?

    Edited to add: We were typing at the same time. I see that you are almost 37. And I'll add - I've had lots of biopsies based on BI-RADs 4 imaging, and most turned out to be benign. But yes, I have had breast cancer, discovered through BI-RADs4 imaging. I've also had several BI-RADs 3, some even in the years after my diagnosis, and I had follow-up screening for all of them, never needing a biopsy. So those all turned out to be fine.


  • ctmbsikia
    ctmbsikia Member Posts: 1,095
    edited January 2021

    Oh gosh, so young!

    My 3's came post treatment. Once I think I just tapped my breast with a weight and I injured it. Had it only go to a 4 in six 6 months after doing that, so had a biopsy last year and it was fat necrosis. I'm at a 3 (again) so don't know yet if this stuff in there will change it again to a 4 or not. Like I said though, at least I know what it is, and it isn't cancer. Let us know how you make out.

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2021

    Hello @beesie,

    I appreciate your insight so much and your comments! I will be 37 in March; both of my sisters have had biopsies as well that have turned out to be nothing. However I can't help but feel that I our bodies are different despite our mothers early dx. The small mass was found by me through normal monthly assessments. I am even more diligent since I had implants a year and a half ago (love them!). I am just a huge proponent of proactive care and a little bit of a nervous Nelly!

    I have requested the biopsy from my provider (today) after I have sat with it through the holidays and have had 3 menstrual cycles so I am assuming it is not hormone related. As I know more, I will post here. I do wonder how many BI-RADS 3 are later found to be more..

    Thank you!

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2021

    The cancer rate for lesions rated as BI-RADs 3 is less than 2%. The studies I've seen range from 06% to 1.9%.


  • LivinLife
    LivinLife Member Posts: 1,332
    edited January 2021

    I've also had BIRADS 3 and 4 ratings come back benign - had several mammogram call backs on my right breast and even two stereotactic biopsies - all benign/fibroadenomas. Then something different looking appeared in my left breast - we followed that about 17 months before biopsy - DCIS with lots of other benign and precancerous findings.... I hope the former outcomes are what your findings are! Either way please let us know how the biopsy goes and results go once you get those... Obviously you already know the waiting is hard so find some relaxing and enjoyable things that can help distract you during the days of waiting for results.... really important... worry is normal for these things though higher levels can just make things worse....

  • Mudstick
    Mudstick Member Posts: 100
    edited January 2021

    I am one of the unfortunate 2% with a Birads 3 that turned out to be IDC. It was recommended I return for more imaging in 6 months.
    However, I felt my risk was high enough to warrant a biopsy, as I had a positive anterior margin after my mastectomy. My mastectomy surgery was only 14 months prior to me finding a small bb lump in my reconstruction. All my docs believed it was fat necrosis by the way it felt, the timing and imaging results.

    Sending you well wishes and I hope you get your biopsy soon for your piece of mind and the result is B9!

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2021

    Hi Everyone! My doctor has sent a referral to general surgery for a biopsy. While I am so glad for it, anyone have any experiences to share? I have heard different stories and just curious 🧐


    Thank you so much for your support!

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2021

    General surgery? Usually core needle biopsies are done at imaging centers by radiologists - this is their area of expertise and what they are trained for. Surgeons are trained to do surgery. Hopefully the surgeon sets you up for a core needle biopsy with a radiologist. The one fly in the ointment could be the very tiny size of the lesion, which perhaps could make a needle biopsy more difficult. To me, surgery seems excessive for a BI-RADs3 and if that is the recommendation, it puts back into question whether you should follow the original recommendation and do a short-term imaging follow-up.

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2021

    @Beesie - thank you for the insight and comments!

    I think that everything goes to "general surgery" and they will set up the right resources at the center. Our breast center is located in the same area as general out patient surgery. After they call to set up the appointment I will ask more questions on procedure, who will be performing it, etc. If I am uncomfortable with it, I will request to wait until the second imaging. I think the nurse called it general surgery but that is just the "location".

    I do hope they will set me up with the core as I have the same concern... I am still a little nerve racked however there is plenty going on in my life that is taking my mind off of it. Can anyone tell me about your experiences with the two different biopsy?

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2021

    Since your lesion is visible on an ultrasound, I would expect that you will have an ultrasound-guided core needle biopsy. This is definitely easier than a stereotactic biopsy, which is a mammogram-guided core needle biopsy. I've had 2 ultrasound-guided and 2 stereotactic. With ultrasound-guided you are lying down relatively comfortably. The radiologist does an ultrasound, you get an injected with a local anesthesia, and then several samples are take using the core needle, which is a hollow needle that retrieves a small amount of the breast tissue. The one thing to be aware of is the sound - the core needle sounds like a loud staple gun. The other thing to be aware of is that if you feel anything, you should immediately let the radiologist know - the biopsy should be painless. It is really is an easy biopsy. Stereotactic biopsies use the same needle but you are either sitting in a chair or lying face down on a table, with your breast squished in a mammogram machine. Much more awkward and uncomfortable, which is why ultrasound-guided biopsies are always done as the first choice, if the area of concern shows up clearly on both an ultrasound and a mammogram.

    Excisional biopsies are essentially the same as lumpectomies, although with a different objective (to biopsy rather than to remove a known cancer) and without the requirement that the surgeon remove extra tissue to try to get clear surgical margins. It's usually a short surgery but with general anaesthesia. I've had 3 of those. Never had any problems but I'll always be happy to avoid general anaesthesia if I can.

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2021

    I got a call from the facility today for a consult on 2/4. Since it was not a nurse or doctor I will have to wait to understand if they are looking to surgically biopsy it since it is so small or if an ultrasound biopsy will suffice. More to come after 2/4 I suppose.

    Thank you for sharing your exeprience!

  • justducky1
    justducky1 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2021

    Hi~hope it turns out well for you. I had a Birad 3 on a sono that returned out to be benign but when they did the other breast a mass showed up which was not. I had a core biopsy and then surgery, chemo & now radiation. It was a stroke of luck that the cancer was found. The entire thing got delayed by Covid but I feel very lucky that it was found when it was. You def did the right thing to request a biopsy. Better safe than sorry. Good luck!

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2021

    Thank you for the comments and for sharing your experiences; I am hoping benign but just really want a peace of mind :)

    I will post an update after my 2/4 appointment. I have tried to block it out for now and leaned into work and family - thanks friends!

  • WorriedManda
    WorriedManda Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2021

    Quick update! Surgeon said I could wait until May for another ultrasound and mammogram or move forward with the biopsy since at this point there is no way to know for sure one way or the other. For my mental health, I opted for the biopsy. If it was totally the wrong choice he wouldn’t move forward with it - not his style. I have an excision biopsy on 2/12. Guessing I won’t n ow much until a week later but either way it will be great to know!

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