I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

Just read a very depressing e-mail from Greg Palast's listserv as to how Trump plans to use the 12th Amendment to stay in office. Scenario is after Nov. 3, with mailed ballots not yet fully counted, to stage riots that damage Federal offices & courthouses in the blue cities of states he needs to hold on to or flip--in hopes those states' GOP Govs. &/or Secys. of State will declare that under the circumstances, they can't possibly count mailed ballots. The goal is not for him to get to 270, but to prevent ANYONE from getting 270 electoral votes. In that event, the election goes to the House....but not one vote per Representative, rather, one vote per state. Yup--Wyoming and California each get ONE vote. So guess who wins.....

Only way to prevent this is to make sure that Dems. in red states (especially the blue cities like Milwaukee, Detroit, Miami, Phila., etc.) vote in-person, early, heavily COVID-protected, during off-hours. Get the word out!

"There is no literature or poetry in this
White House. No music.
No Kennedy Center award celebrations.
There are no pets in this White House.
No loyal man's best friend. No Socks the family cat.
No kids' science fairs.
No times when this president takes off his
blue suit-red tie uniform and becomes human, except when he puts on his white shirt-khaki pants
uniform and hides from Americans to
play golf.
There are no images of the first family
enjoying themselves together in a moment
of relaxation.
No Obamas on the beach in Hawaii
moments, or Bushes fishing in Kennebunkport, no Reagans on horseback, no Kennedys playing touch football on the Cape.
I was thinking the other day of the summer
when George H couldn't catch a fish
and all the grandkids made signs and
counted the fish-less days.
And somehow, even if you didn't even like GHB, you got caught up in the joy of a family that loved each other and had fun.
Where did that country go? Where did all
of the fun and joy and expressions of love and happiness go? We used to be a country that did the ice bucket challenge and raised millions for charity.
We used to have a president that calmed and
soothed the nation instead dividing it.
And a First Lady that planted a garden
instead of ripping one out.
We are rudderless and joyless.
We have lost the cultural aspects of
society that make America great.
We have lost our mojo, our fun, our happiness.
The cheering on of others. Gone.
The shared experiences of humanity that makes it all worth it. Gone.
The challenges AND the triumphs that we shared and celebrated.
The unique can-do spirit Americans
have always been known for. Gone.
We have lost so much
In so short a time."
~Elayne Griffin Baker

Ruth -- that is perfect for how so many people feel. We always hope the top person in the U.S. can be just like us in so many important ways but so much so just daily living and experiences. An example of the comfort and peace that we should be able to feel. I'm stealing it. Bet you knew that when you put it in though. It has a wonderful hope written it -- that we could have that again.

I just reposted that exact same thing on Facebook less than a minute ago, Ruth. It speaks to me about what we've lost in the last four years. Joy. It's not just the Pandemic. It's the Trump persona, filled with grievance and spite, that seems to suck every good thing out of life. I'm tired. I just want it over.

And to your point, ChiSandy, I believe Trump might try something like that. But he won't get away with it. I know I will head straight for DC, most likely accompanied by thirty or so million of my fellow citizens, and remove him from the people's house. We've put our trust in the system to correct the Trump error, but our willingness to accept his behavior does have limits. He'd be wise not to push those limits any further. Just ask Benito about making that particular mistake.

Ruthbru - Elayne depictIon of current administration is obvious in Elaynes posting. Many if not all statements were created by Prior administration. The current administration has brought the economy up to the point that the public can enjoy all that was listed negatively listed in Elyne’s commentary - including a dog.

I haven't had any time yet today to really review today's news other than to note the polls still don't favor Trump much at all. I would suspect any dirty trick that happened to have Trump's prints all over it, but I do think there are limits. On the way here I noticed that Barr may be looked into rather quickly for his recent missteps and behaviors as he is shining Trump's nose every chance he gets. I think some of it is desperation. There was always a fear of Biden -- but after Jim Clyburn's ( S. Carolina ) blessing Biden pretty much took off like a rocket and is still going. Some states will be close, but the more desperate maneuvers the Trump people come up with, the more that might change for the better for Biden. We are getting pretty close -- there is not really going to be a vaccine, but people are still dying from covid, the poor are definitely not getting wealthy, and Biden looks and sounds highly presidential w/o one dirty trick to be had. He has been a truth teller and for that reason will continue to look formidable to the Trump people who will wonder why and so therefore come up with even more off the wall answers. I did read that people were leaving Trump's last rally about 30 to 40 mins. before he wound it down. Even his people are tired of it.

They belong in the White House.

I'm assuming the same thing as you, Trish. I don't think Amp realizes the blue nature of this thread.

Amp47,

You may have posted in the wrong thread. Many moons ago the moderators created two threads; on for Democrats/Liberals and one for Republicans/Conservatives. They requested that we not cross post to avoid arguments and neither thread appears on active topics. We hope that you will respect their wishes. Please find the Conservative thread if you wish to support the current administration

I weep for our democracy. Mitch McConnell is such scum that he will try to push an appointment through, regardless of what he said/did in the past. I hope it costs him his Senate seat.

I literally screamed "NOOO" at the TV when I heard the news on CNN. Definitely not the Erev Rosh Hashannah we desired. Her memory is a blessing. She was amazing.

I just hope they find a way to block appointing a new Justice until after the election. Or something,,,, Delay!!!

A real giant among women is gone. I'm heartbroken.