Reconstruction options?
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Hello people, I am looking for some advice. I was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer in March, at age 30. I have met with the surgeon and we are going forward with a double mastectomy (I have a CHEK2 gene mutation so that even the "good" breast needs to go). I will be done chemo in mid-July and will be seeing a plastic surgeon soon afterwards. With everything happening so fast I need to make a decision about reconstruction. I am by not mentally/emotionally ready to be flat-chested, and I am not interested in implants (I believe they have to get redone every 10 years or something?) So basically I'm trying to figure out what I want. The flap procedure sounds interesting - I think it’s called DIEP? What kinds of complications did anyone have? Is there anybody that had a full mastectomy and were able to have a similar size again? I guess that is where tissue expanders come into play? I don’t yet know if I will be getting radiation, but did that affect anyone’s reconstruction results? Sorry for all the noob questions! Thank you!
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Just as an FYI: you don’t have to get implants done every ten years. That’s a bit of a myth that arises out of the warranty many manufacturers offer; many cosmetic patients were urged or encouraged to replace for new warranty reasons and it seems to have become a bit of a common myth it must be done. I did do a direct to implant sub-pec (pre pec was rare to do back then and not sure I would have done it either though my sister just had it done)procedure back in 2014 and remained same size I was (30E/32DD) without expanders needed. I have changed implants but that was not as they “had to be replaced” and that procedure was quite simple.
There are various types of flap surgeries (DIEP, SGAP, LDF, etc) available and if you look around on here several there are are threads for most. What is best for you will depend a lot on your own body and circumstances and to discuss with your PS. I personally was not a good candidate for flap surgeries (I would want muscle sparing and did not have fat tissues needed). I would have been fine going a bit smaller than I was but was having nipple sparing so that limited how much smaller I could go without extensive scarring needed to reduce skin and so on. Again, also there are always potential for complications - my late mother had DIEP and did have some issues with necrosis though it was eventually managed. She had a longer recovery than I did with her DIEP than I did with my implants, but she was also recovering from chemo and so on where I was a prophylactic patient. I also know people who did implants who had complications like necrosis or capsular contracture so it happens. Best thing you can do is research and get a PS you feel is skilled and you can trust.
One thing to prepare for is that it is rarely ever just done with ONE surgery. Revisions are common whether by necessity or choice. I for example am choosing to go back for fat grafting next week but this is 6 years after my original surgery. I am however happy with my reconstruction and don’t regret implant option for *myself* at all. Just tweaks! -
Thank you so much for the reply! It is very helpful to hear of other people’s experiences. I am still not decided but it is interesting that implants don’t necessarily have to be redone every 10 years. You gave me some valuable info and I thank you for taking the time to reply
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I also had a one step with implants, almost 9 years ago. BMX and implants placed all in one surgery. But, regardless of what type of recon you choose, it is not uncommon to need more than one surgery. Besides learning about different types of recon speaking with a ps about the best options for you, your health and your body. I didn’t have enough tissue/fat for diep and I wasn’t keen on having another surgery site to heal from. My ps then laid out what he thought were my best options. I really wanted the one step but he said he would bring te’s into surgery because he wanted to give me the best aesthetic result. BTW, not a single doc has mentioned any 10 year rule on implants. I finally asked and was told that that is now considered unnecessary.
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I had bilateral mastectomies with silicone implant reconstruction over the muscles. The expander stage is more painful this way because the expander gets sewn to the skin (it takes a few weeks for the pain to disappear), but my new breasts look big. I actually went a size up, although I wish that I had stayed the same size. By going bigger, I stretched my skin, which led to three years of complications that are still ongoing: recurrent infection and intermittent inflammation in my blood vessels due to changes in circulation. I think that I am finally learning how to control the inflammation through my diet and that the infection (which originally hospitalized me and had me on intravenous antibiotics for a few days) was resolved through the additional surgery that I had (explanation followed by ten months without an implant, followed by new reconstruction with another implant). I still have recurrent redness, but it no longer appears to be an infection. We’re actively trying to figure it out.
I've learned that being a thin person made the result look worse in a way because the edges of the implants are ripply under the skin, like when you pick up a slightly deflated beach ball with one hand, and depressions or indentations appear in the ball. I could have filled in these areas with a little thigh fat, but because I battled a recurrent infection, I opted not to have more surgeries that could expose me to more bacteria.
My breasts look fantastic in bras and clothing, or when I am naked and pull my shoulders back, which makes the ripples disappear. With a little thigh fat, I think they would look awesome. By going above the muscle, I needed a cellular dermal matrix to pad the skin. ADM is donor tissue from cadavers. This could be another reason for my recurrent redness—if my body is rejecting it. My problems, though, are rare from what I understand.
My friend just had flap surgery and a bunch of complications, including infection, but this was after receiving radiation, which could be why. I’ll ask her whether she is happy with her new breasts’ appearance. Meanwhile, my mom had reconstruction with implants placed under her pectoral muscles. I believe that she thinks they look “okay.” I’ll ask her if she’s happy with them and repost.
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Hi,
I am in Canada. I am diagnosed with DCIS low grade and LCIS on my left breast. After two surgical lumpectomies I still have one positive DCIS margin and other margins <1mm. The surgeon recommended a mastectomy and a prophylactic on the right side. MRI did not show any abnormalities, however it did not show in the left side either. All this was find as I started to have left side nipple discharge. My questions are?
Do you know if is possible to have skin sparing mastectomy with expanders? I want to preserve as much of my skin and muscle as possible, The plastic surgeon said that I am not a candidate for autologous implant or for a pre pectoral implant done in one stage reconstruction.
Will I need to chose another type of mastectomy instead ?
Thanks for your help!
Barb
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Yes, you can probably have skin sparing With expander. I would also strongly suggest you get at least one more opinion. Measure twice, cut once!
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Thanks !
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My plan has changed many times, and so has the Drs. opinions, so I do think another opinion would be good. First I was told I was not a candidate for DIEP, not enough fat. I had TEs put in during Bmx. I had an infection and they came out. Due to chemo and radiation, I decided to do DIEP, which I suddenly became a candidate for, hmmm. PS was mislead by BS into thinking I would not be doing chemo and radiation. I did gain about 10 pounds. Than my radiation oncologist tells me implants are not out of the question after radiation. hmmm. Lots of different opinions. I have a lot of flappy thick skin due to TE removal, and it looks fine to me, I could probably get implants. I'm afraid the radiation wasn't strong enough. It was very easy. But currently am still thinking DIEP so I don't have to worry about implants for the rest of my life. 6 months after radiation would be November, but I'll put it off til January to save ruining the holidays. I'm also scared implants could mask a reoccurance, especially over the muscle which is what my PS does, even though everyone says no. But also thinking silicone implants is the only way I can get periodic mris, which is sad that would be a consideration. Both of my PS consults also mentioned Lat Flap, which I find really wierd. You need implants with that. Why in the world would I take a muscle off my back instead of the fat off my stomach. I don't trust any of them, I've had bad experiences. I'm so confused.
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Hi there!
This is my first post.
I am 2 treatments away from being done with chemo. Along with doctors, ruled out a lumpectomy and decided on a double mastectomy with immediate reconstruction for different reasons. I met with my PS and am so overwhelmed with my options. I have made pros and cons lists; I have researched, I have read others experiences and yet, here I am with no idea and feeling so alone and unsure. Alone because this is a decision I need to make and everyone around me has their opinion, which I appreciate, but I need to do what's best for me. I need to make a decision fairly soon.
I like the idea of using my own tissue and was leaning more towards the Latissimus Dorsi Flap, but after reading other's experiences I don't think it's the route I want to go as I have some health issues and upper body is already somewhat (not terribly) weak.
I'm sure many of you have felt this way and am looking for insight as to how some of you came to make your decision on what reconstruction method you chose and what your experience was with your chosen option.
Any response would be greatly appreciated.
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Ivy - it's such a personal decision. Some want no reconstruction. Some want implants. Some want more complicated surgery like Lat or Diep flaps. Some are constricted in their plans by other medical issues. There's really no way to recommend the path to take. If you've researched, you know the average time to heal for each type of surgery, which is a personal consideration.
I agree about getting second opinion. That gives you more thoughts to consider. I also recommend that you go with a PS who has LOTS of experience and does whatever surgery you choose on a daily basis with good results. Some are better at one type or the other.
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MinusTwo,
Thanks for responding, I really appreciate it! I just feel rushed in having to make such an important decision, obviously, I want to make the best decision for me. This is all just so much!
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Hi Ivy - glad you are almost done with chemo. Making the decision is very difficult. I went back and forth in the beginning originally thinking I was only going to do lumpectomy. But then completely changed course and decided on bilateral MX.
I came to this decision based on my age, not wanting to do rads or hormone therapy among many other factors. I was a mess in the beginning but was at peace with my decision when I finally made it. And surgery just confirmed that for me, with stuff going on in my “good boob".
My surgery went well overall. I had bilateral nipple sparing MX with prepec expanders (worst things ever!) and then finally implants. It is a big surgery and no easy task. I had a lot of pain post surgery (3 weeks of drains) and some delayed healing in the beginning but no major problems otherwise which I'm very thankful for. My BS did a great job with nipple sparing and I have inframammary incisions so you can barely see my scars.
Even though we are all dealing with different diagnosis's and situations we all are unfortunately forced in to making decisions we had never thought or hoped we would have to make. So I hope you can come to peace with your decision and make the choice that's best for you. We're here if you have any questions and I wish you the best going forward!
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Hi LiveLoveLaugh2020!
Thank you for your response. Up until 2 weeks ago, I too, was planning on doing a lumpectomy, but I know now that it is not for me for some of the same reasons you listed above as well as other things.
Like you said, never did I think I'd be having to make such a life changing decision, but I'm grateful that things have gone well thus far and now moving on to the next step and being closer to putting all this behind me, cancer free.
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You’re welcome. Yes, it’s such a tough situation to be in. But like you said, you’ve gone through so much already and finally can get on with your surgery and put the worst behind you. Best of luck to you!
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Ivy, you mention having reasons for immediate recon, but I would just note that you can always decide to do no recon now and change your mind later. Similarly, you can start with implants and later do an autologous approach. It is a big, hard decision, and there are a lot of unavoidable emotions involved so you should take the time that you need. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Thank you beeline! Delayed reconstruction never crossed my mind, but that probably has a lot to do with self-image and vanity. I never realized how important my looks were until I lost my my hair. Unavoidable emotions is an understatement!
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