July 2020 chemo club

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  • mtspacekace
    mtspacekace Member Posts: 157
    edited July 2020

    hello Star 🌟!!! Welcome to the club. I was very nervous about my port...but now that it’s done, I love having it. It makes blood draw and infusions a breeze! It was a very easy surgery and I had hardly no pain at all.

    I go in for my second infusion Tuesday...TCHP. Tomorrow is the day to catch up on grocery shopping, pick up prescriptions, laundry....I have a cleaning lady that comes Wednesday after my infusion while I walk my dogs so I don’t have to worry about cleaning a ton...it’s very nice.

    My hair is falling out, it’s so thin! I’ve been using the lint roller a lot, as hair falls out throughout the day and sticks in the neck of my shirt...making it really poky! The lint roller really helps! My head is gross, scaly, and bumpy...like the rashy pimply bumps on my face...which is a side effect I’ve read. I hope it goes away.

    I had a nice weekend, and felt great. It was nice to feel a bit normal for a few days before going back for chemo. My tastebuds finally came back. It’s true they say you just get to feeling normal then it’s time to go back in again.

  • kukalona
    kukalona Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2020

    smicheals11 - I bought socks and gloves from amazon. I'm also on Taxatere for an hour and the gloves lasted that long, the socks were still cold, but not frozen, I have extra little gel packs if I need to replace the melted ones. Here are links to what I got:
    Gloves (I got S/M) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086VP9PQX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1
    Socks (also S/M) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L4WOKG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Gel packs - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J1NQ9KT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Stardeweyes - Welcome. Good luck with your journey. We are here to support each other :)

    Annathebrave - the oncology pharmacist told me I could take either zyrtec or claritin. Here in the community I only heard about claritin so I'm not sure, but maybe worth asking your MO? I took some claritin for my first fulphila (same as neulasta) but it didn't seem to do much for me, I think I took it too late, only 1 hours after my injection. The nurse who gave me the shot told me to take it before my shot... I'll do that this time.

    Sharon2020 - How are you? I hope you are able to manage everything ok.

    I'm shedding like crazy the last couple of days. I knew this would come so not scared, but seriously, I'm worse than our dog. We're going to need to vacuum more often now...

    I was wondering what you ladies are doing about nail care, other than icing. Any tips?

  • Shar2020
    Shar2020 Member Posts: 234
    edited August 2020

    Iamloved, hopefully the naturopathic doctor will have helpful suggestions for you.

    AnnaTheBrave, how are your right foot and toes today?

    Stardeweye,welcome and best wishes as you get the port today and your first infusion tomorrow.

    Mtspacekace, glad to read you had a nice weekend and felt great.

    Kukalona, thank you. Yes, I am doing well except for a mildly painful face rash that started yesterday. It's on my neck, too. It's not itchy; just the entire face is tender to touch.

    Kukalona, regarding your experience with the injection... I took a Claritin the night before the injection and another Claritin two hours before the injection, as instructed by the pharmacist, and it seems to have been effective. I hope you are feeling well now.

  • Evergreenman
    Evergreenman Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2020

    Hi Ladies, I had my 2nd chemo on 23rd July. Feeling ok except stomach upset. Shaved my hair off so I don’t have to keep cleaning the floor wherever I go.

    Still occasionally feeling the soreness from the breast lump which puts me in doubt if the chemo is working. Do you feel the same?

  • Stardewyeyed
    Stardewyeyed Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2020

    Thank you for the warm welcome! I'm at the hospital now waiting for registration.


    Kukalona, my doctor recommended the OPI brand nail envy strengthener. I ended up having to go to Sally's to get some. It was around $18 I think. As I haven't started I can't speak to it's effectiveness but I thought it worth mentioning.

  • Smichaels11
    Smichaels11 Member Posts: 132
    edited July 2020

    Hi everyone, hope you're all hanging in there! Welcome Star and Evergreen!

    Kukalona, I'll have to check out those gloves/socks. I really need something better than pans full of ice! I'm definitely feeling a little neuropathy again in my fingers and toes which is driving me crazy.

    For those asking about nails - I am keeping mine short and painted a darker color in hopes of keeping them in tact and healthy. I have noticed they stopped growing which is upsetting. I have also noticed my eyebrows and lashes have stopped growing as well. They aren't falling out, so fingers crossed they stay!

    I am feeling alright for the most part, but am frustrated that food isn't good and I'm not 100%. Per my notes from last time, day 11 is when I turned a corner and started to really feel like myself again. Ugh, too many days to go! I hate feeling "sick." I believe the heat is a factor as well, since I can't go outside and enjoy the weather without having a damn heat stroke! Being cooped up in the house is making everything worse.

    Evergreen - I actually am experiencing the opposite. Following my first round of chemo I can't feel my lump anymore. My oncologist agreed, although she warned me that complete response to chemo treatment is 30%. I have my fingers crossed, though!

    Star - I hope everything goes well for you! I am not a fan of my port, but I know how much easier it is for chemo and blood draws in general, so I deal with it. It doesn't hurt, but I do find it annoying. Others have no issues with theirs at all, so I think I am an outlier. Because I am receiving TCHP, I will need my port in for an entire year which bums me out. I am considering having it removed after my BMX, but I want to hear more experiences on having Herceptin done in the arm instead of the port. Maybe it's wishful thinking!

  • Evergreenman
    Evergreenman Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2020

    Smichaels, fantastic chemo response. Really happy for you. My nurse said the lump might start swelling before shrinking. I am praying to see some difference after this round. Maybe I am just too anxious? My oncologist doesn’t suggest a scan until 8 weeks after chemo start.

    Getting better sleep after speaking to the physiologist who gave me more assurance.

    Hope everyone have a nice day!

  • BlusteryDay
    BlusteryDay Member Posts: 57
    edited July 2020

    Welcome Stardewyeyed! I’m on a similar infusion schedule as you. Friday will be my 2nd of 4 dose dense AC infusions, then I’ll do 4 dose dense Taxol infusions (instead of 12 weekly because I have a 5 hour round trip to my cancer center...my choice).

    I hope all goes well with your port and infusion

  • mtspacekace
    mtspacekace Member Posts: 157
    edited July 2020

    I tried my wigs on today...because my hair is shedding horribly. It’s so patchy, and my scalp is dry and flaky. The sticky lint roller is really helping tho! I ordered 3 cheaper wigs from a Facebook page my friend recommended. The 1st is kind of what my natural hair looks like. The othe 2 are fun wigs... I figured that now is the time to have a good excuse to have some fun hairstyles I could never have with my real hair! I got some fun turbans from amazon too. Tomorrow I go for infusion 2, so I had a mani/pedi today...I decided to not fill my acrylics and just get a shellac mani/pedi. So far they looked great under the shellac they took off. My cuticles have gotten really dry, and I got some cuticle oil I use a few times a day. No neuropathy so far. My infusion nurse said that the studies have shown that icing doesn’t really help, so I’m not...so far, so good I guess. I’m just hoping that everything goes good and I can keep the nasty side effects at bay. It’s nice to kind of know what to expect this time.

    I hope everyone has a fabulous week! Sending prayers for you all!

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  • millie5
    millie5 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2020

    You look beautiful! I'd never say it's a wig!

  • Shar2020
    Shar2020 Member Posts: 234
    edited October 2020

    Stardewyeye, thinking about you as you go for your first infusion today.

    Mtspacekace, the wigs look lovely.

    Evergreenman, glad to read that your sleep is better.

    Smichaels11, that's great you can't feel the lump!

    BlusteryDay, that's such a long commute! I hope someone is with you to keep you company and/or you have great music.

  • Iamloved
    Iamloved Member Posts: 228
    edited July 2020

    Mtspacekace...they both look great!!! Thanks for sharing!

    Stardewyeye...Prayers for you today.

    BlusteryDay...The 5 hour round trip is the same as mine. Happy my Hubby is able to travel with me.

    kukalona...Thx for the links. I ordered some last night.

  • Smichaels11
    Smichaels11 Member Posts: 132
    edited July 2020

    Mtspacekace, hottie alert!!! Loving those wigs on you (especially the purple!) I am starting to feel more confident wearing headwraps when going to the store and being outside. Dressing them up with makeup and dangly earrings helps me feel more put together. Not to mention its been so stinking hot. I am hoping the mangy fuzz would just fall out already! I'd like to rock a clean look around the house, but so far I still have that monk look going on that my little guy loves to giggle about. I begged my SO to clean shave it for me but he refuses. He is afraid of nicking me and causing an infection, which I totally understand. Womp womp.

    I am feeling shitty again today and a bit more emotional for some reason. I think I'm hangry, lol. Food tastes... wrong... even though I'm SO hungry. I've tried the salt and baking soda mouthrinse but nothing is really working. I even tried a 50/50 mix of liquid maalox and children's benadryl but all it did was numb my tongue. Any tips to get the taste buds back to semi normal?

    I have an appointment with the plastic surgeon tomorrow. I'm hopeful she can give me some pretty boobies at the end of this chemo crap! Fingers crossed!

    Star, how did it go? Hope you're feeling well!

  • mtspacekace
    mtspacekace Member Posts: 157
    edited July 2020

    Smichaels: It’s too dang hot to wear wigs right now! I have some light cotton knit beanies and turbans in summery colors...haven’t quite conquered the scarves, I need to play around more. I don’t mind wearing caps, but the mangy hair around my neck looks ridiculous!

    I had another reaction to Perjeta today, I got super hot this time and couldn’t breathe and was coughing. So weird. So I got a Benny and Pepcid...so fun to be wasted at 9 am lol...but I guess that is better than not being able to breathe. Everything else went well. I’m super tired. It’s gotta be from the Benadryl.

    My taste buds got so bad last time...it was nice to be able to taste food normal for the past few days! I think the salt water rinse after every meal helped keep the mouth sores away...I had a few little ones, but nothing that was bad. I also try to drink lots of ice water. I’ve found that drinking it out of a glass tumbler or water bottle was the best way. Metal or plastic water bottles it just tastes gross! I ordered some fun ones with lids off of amazon. It helps.

    I hope everyone else is doing well! I’m praying that I feel well enough to go camping this weekend...but we will take it one day at a time until then.

  • Trynryan
    Trynryan Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2020

    Hello all! I have been feeling well the last week, my 2nd infusion is Thursday. Like many of you, my hair is weirdly in between shaved and bald. I noticed a huge amount of hair loss in the last couple of days so I am hoping most will be out in the next few days. Mtspacekace I love the wigs! I bought a “professional” one but also a couple fun ones from Amazon. The one I like best to throw on quick is actually hat hair- a baseball cap that looks like there is a bob coming out of it. Hysterical. I also am having a halo wig made out of my own hair so I am excited to see what that looks like too. I watched some really good YouTube videos on scarf tying- they were helpful.


  • Iamloved
    Iamloved Member Posts: 228
    edited July 2020

    My naturopathic doctor sent me home with these vitamin A drops for my mouth and tongue. She also recommended Jason's Health mouth wash. She said the cloves in are numbing but also very healing. For the vitamin A drops I will take 3 drops daily for 1 week post chemo treatment.

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  • Stardewyeyed
    Stardewyeyed Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2020

    Thank you so much for all the thoughts and prayers. I made it through which feels like a huge accomplishment. My mind is mush and I'm exhausted so I'll respond in more detail tomorrow after some rest. Everyone sleep well and sweet dreams.

  • millie5
    millie5 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2020

    Hey girls, I'm so emotional these days, losing hair is so terribly stressful. Much more than I expected, although I have a scarf and a wig prepared. From this perspective, I think the best option is to cut your hair as short as possible, probably shave it. I didn't do that, I just cut it short.

  • Melbo
    Melbo Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2020

    I've been obsessively reading posts in this forum for the last several weeks. I start my TCHP chemo 6 August (3 week cycle) -- assuming I can get an echocardiogram and port placement scheduled before then. This morning I'm going for a bone scan. I was also supposed to have a CT scan just as a precaution, but my insurance said no to the CT scan, but yes to the bone scan. My oncologist didn't really think I needed either at this point, but he figured if the insurance would at least cover the bone scan then I might as well do it. I'm sure this won't be the last time the insurance will make stupid decisions that the rest of us will never understand. If they had said no to both it would have at least been consistent.

    I'm trying to do as much as I can right now to prepare for the chemo side effects, but it's really hard to do since it's really unclear which side effects will affect me the worst. I'm making a run to CVS after my scan to stock up on a few things I've seen mentioned here and to pick up some of my prescriptions.

    I hope you are all doing well today.

  • millie5
    millie5 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2020

    Welcome, Melbo, we're all here to share the good and bad. IMHO, it's always good to be prepared for what lies ahead. But, although I had the info, sometimes I found it very difficult to emotionally cope with it. That's why were're here to share and cheer one another up.

    I hope all goes well with your therapy.

  • Shar2020
    Shar2020 Member Posts: 234
    edited August 2020

    Good morning, everyone. I hope today has many enjoyable moments and minimal discomfort for everyone.

    Melbo, best wishes to you and welcome. Everyone here is very helpful and supportive.

    Millie5, yes, this is emotional and stressful. We are here for you.

    Stardewyeyed, first infusion over! I hope you had a full night of sleep after your exhausting day.

    Iamloved, are the vitamin A drops used like a rinse? I hope you are feeling relief.

    Trynryan, that's great you have been feeling well the last week. Best wishes as you go for a second infusion tomorrow.

  • AnnaTheBrave
    AnnaTheBrave Member Posts: 69
    edited July 2020

    Feels like the reality of this shit is hitting for a lot of us. For me, it was easy, at first, to be all kick-ass and relentlessly positive, but it is a grind, even from the very beginning. Losing your hair, even if you know it's coming, sucks. Feeling crappy, even if it isn't as bad as you thought, sucks. Contemplating your mortality extra-special sucks.

    It's also a pain that the world isn't normal right now. It would be nice to go to the library. It would be nice to go sit at Starbucks. It's approximately 913 degrees with 800% humidity, and going for walks is nauseating. It's hard to find something to do to feel normal.

    I'm not advocating wallowing in self pity, but it's important, I think, to allow ourselves to be pissy or cranky or teary or angry every now and then. It isn't self-indulgent. It's just objectively true that this sucks, and it's ok to acknowledge it.

  • millie5
    millie5 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2020

    Thanks AnnaTheBrave, this is exactly how I've been feeling for the last 24 hrs :( Not to mention that I've cried myself to sleep. But today, I've put my wig on (for the first time), kept myself busy and planned to go for a walk when the night comes and it becomes a bit cooler. I have my second chemo tomorrow, and that additionally brings me down.

  • Smichaels11
    Smichaels11 Member Posts: 132
    edited July 2020

    Anna, well said! This is just all so.... shitty! And giving ourselves permission to be upset about it is normal and healthy!

    Millie, good luck on infusion #2. Sashay your way to that infusion room and know that its one step closer to being done. You can do this!


    This is

    me today in my headwrap trying to not melt in that 913 degree weather!

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  • millie5
    millie5 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2020

    Thx Smichaels11

    Looking great with that headwrap! Stay cool :)

  • AnnaTheBrave
    AnnaTheBrave Member Posts: 69
    edited July 2020

    Smichaels, super cute!!

    Has anyone found a hat with hair that’s cheap? The only ones I can find either have super long hair (defeats the cooling purpose and I don’t wanna hack it apart and ruin it) or are $90 and don’t even look too cute (in the pictures at least—they might be fine in person).

  • Iamloved
    Iamloved Member Posts: 228
    edited July 2020

    AnnaTheBrave A catalog I received from the American Cancer society called TLC has something called halos. Its like a headband with hair and you wear it under a cap. image

  • Shar2020
    Shar2020 Member Posts: 234
    edited July 2020

    Iamloved, thank you for telling us about the hair halos. I had not seen them and they look like a comfortable option for warm weather.

    Smichaels11, you look great! I like the way you have twisted the ends to the side.

    Millie5, thinking about you as you prepare for your second infusion tomorrow.

    AnnaTheBrave, your post captured the reality of this experience very well. It is important to acknowledge all of it and you are 100% correct that it isn’t self-indulgent.

  • Stardewyeyed
    Stardewyeyed Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2020

    Iamloved, thank you or sharing the halo tops! they look neat!

    Smichaels11, you look so cute in your scarf. Did you tie that yourself or did it come pretied?

    Millie5, You'll be in my thoughts and prayers for you infusion tomorrow. Let us know how it goes as you feel up to it.

    AnnaTheBraveyour Thank you so much for your thoughts. You are so right that we need to feel our feelings so we can move on. Stuffing them is so unhealthy and so often we are basically advised to do just that. "stay positive and strong" can feel like such a prison.

    Melbo, welcome. I hope you can get it all scheduled in time. The wait for treatment was very difficult. As for CVS, I feel like my shelves at home are stocked almost as well as theirs at this point with all I've read as well. lol

    Mtspacekace, you look so cute in your wigs! Did you get them all from the same seller? Are they comfy?


    I've been experiencing a feeling of hyperdrive today. I think it's the steroids. Anyone else get this? They sent me home with more to take for the first few days and I feel like I can't even think straight.

  • Shar2020
    Shar2020 Member Posts: 234
    edited October 2020

    Stardewyeye, yes, I felt that with the steroids. I slept one hour the night before the infusion, although anxiety may have contributed to the insomnia, too. Mine was prescribed for three days, starting the day before the infusion.

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