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Last time I was diagnosed, I told very few people and mostly went through treatment solo. Depression/anxiety started during treatment and I ended up feeling suicidal about 2 years after treatment. I didn't tell anyone. After about 5 years, I was able to overcome the depression by working through "Feeling Good". I have a recurrence, but I'm also scared of being hit with depression again. This time, I am letting friends know and trying to establish a support group. Otheruggestions?

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  • MountainMia
    MountainMia Member Posts: 1,307
    edited July 2020

    Please make sure to tell your care team, too. They need to know so they can help make resources available. If you worked with a therapist, psychologist, or psychiatrist in the past, make an appt with them before you feel depressed. Cancer is rough going and you don't need to pretend strength you don't feel. It's okay to be afraid, angry, anxious, and depressed. All the feels are okay. But you'll still need to take care. I wish you good fortune and good care.

  • lehrski
    lehrski Member Posts: 94
    edited July 2020

    Thanks MountainMia. Up to this point, I literally have not told anyone other than my brother about the depression. I have never talked to a therapist or a doctor about mental health and it seems terrifying to do so. I don't think I could tell my care team, but I might try to see if I could do an online appt. with a therapist from another town who I wouldn't see at the grocery store, etc. What you said was super helpful that it's okay to feel things.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited July 2020

    hun, your gp, and definitely your oncologist have heard it all before and would not blink. Do you live in a very small town? Even then, doctors know how to maintain privacy.

    My oncologist actually raised the topic of depression and anxiety herself during one of our first appointments. My cancer center also has a support group and a psychiatrist available.

    Mental health is important, getting treatment for mood disorder is important and there's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a normal, human problem to have.

    I hope you can find a way to tell at least one of your health care providers

  • Peregrinelady
    Peregrinelady Member Posts: 1,019
    edited July 2020
    Besides letting a trusted dr. know and therapy, I would suggest making sure your vitamin D level is where it should be. Magnesium also helped lift my depression when first diagnosed and starting Tamoxifen. As the others have said, it is nothing to be ashamed of and I have always thought that it takes bravery and hard work to overcome depression. I am happy now that I did it and am an advocate of talking about depression matter of factly so that it quits being a taboo subject.
  • prepmom
    prepmom Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2020

    I'm going to echo what has already been said. I can relate so well to your post - as I'm sure so many here can. While I told many members of my family and friend circle after my diagnosis, I also fell into depression after my treatment (surgery only) was complete. I also experienced a tremendous amount of anxiety.

    I had a really hard time coming to the decision that I needed and deserved to get help. While I would have never passed this judgement on others, for some reason, I didn't want to seem anything but 'strong' and 'lucky'. Finally talking to a therapist and ultimately taking an anti-depressant has increased my quality of life tremendously. We all deserve that! Please reach out to someone soon. Hugs

  • MountainMia
    MountainMia Member Posts: 1,307
    edited July 2020

    Peregrinelady, RIGHT! It's no more shameful to have depression than it is to have breast cancer, or any other illness. I have had depression. My main episode lasted more than a year. I cried almost every day for a year and felt like I might never climb out of my hole. While other people might not want to talk/hear about it, they also generally don't want to hear about stomach pains or ear aches. It isn't because it's shameful. It's just that a lot of people don't know how to respond to personal stuff, like health or feelings. So yes, I don't mind talking about it. Anyone who wants to know more is welcome to ask me about my experience.

  • Peregrinelady
    Peregrinelady Member Posts: 1,019
    edited July 2020
    I agree, mountain Mia. I feel like if I talk about it and it helps someone who may be going through the same thing, it is worth me “exposing” myself. Even if they don’t share their feelings with me, I can tell by the questions asked that they or someone they know might be experiencing symptoms. I am especially open with my daughters as I believe that depression can be genetic. As if breast cancer wasn’t bad enough.
  • LiveLoveLaugh2020
    LiveLoveLaugh2020 Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2020

    Lehrski don’t be afraid to reach out. I have always been one to hold everything in. But once I was diagnosed my anxiety was out of control and I sought help. People who don’t have to deal with the C word have anxiety, depression etc. A BC diagnosis or any C diagnosis changes you forever and there is so much you have to deal with and are forced to think about. So please don’t be afraid to reach out. There is no need to suffer any more than you have to, you are already dealing with so much.

    I’m so sorry about your new DX and I wish you the best going forward. (Hugs)

    We are here if you need to talk!

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited July 2020

    I have dealt with depression for over 20 years and it is mostly controlled by medication, most of the time. I remember when I first started taking antidepressants and wasn't totally comfortable with it, someone told me that when she started taking them she 'got her life back'. Some things I have found that helped me. It is best for me not to discuss this issue with most people as if they haven't experienced depression they think you just buck up. When I heard just buck up it depressed me even more. I also didn't discuss the particulars of my diagnosis with my family. They just knew I had cancer. Had I talked any more about it I believe it would have freaked them out and they would pull away. I was very much helped when I joined a support for women going through cancer treatment. This was my place to let it all out and it helped so much. There were also women in the group who were much farther along in their treatment and it was reassuring to hear that they had made it through. Please make your call today to find help with this. I'm 11 years out from my diagnosis and I must say that there was enormous help to go through this. Blessings and do make the call today.

  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited July 2020

    I'm so sorry you're back here. I think it takes a lot of guts to look back at how things worked out before and think about doing something different this time.

    Ideally I hope you do talk about this with your oncologist. They may have resources for you (even possibly in-center social worker or psychiatrist), but also some of the meds can interact with mental health. But if you're not ready to do that, right now is a better time than ever to be able to do online therapy. Many therapists are offering tele-sessions, which was unheard of before.

    I've struggled with depression over the years and done my best to fight the internal and external stigma - luckily not so much of it where I am now. But look, you got depressed from breast cancer. Anybody who would tell a woman who got breast cancer that there's something wrong with her for getting depressed is missing some parts of their heart.

  • lehrski
    lehrski Member Posts: 94
    edited July 2020

    Thank you all for your kind and thoughtful responses. I contacted a couple of online psychologists today. I'm in a fairly small town and the cancer center is just 4 docs and a few chemo nurses/PAs with no other resources. My doc is very smart (PhD in biochem etc.), but tough and I can't imagine sharing anything personal with him.

  • prepmom
    prepmom Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2020

    I'm so happy to hear that you're reaching out! Hang in there & remember that therapy can take some time, but it should be worth it!

  • lehrski
    lehrski Member Posts: 94
    edited July 2020

    So I did counseling for the first time today. It was really, really helpful. It was a relief being able to talk to someone and she had some good suggestions. Thanks all!

  • cyathea
    cyathea Member Posts: 338
    edited July 2020

    lehrski, I’m so glad your therapist helped. I wish more people realized that depression is physical and chemical. We know that chemicals in our brain are different when we are not depressed versus depressed. Treatment and medication can affect our brains and the resulting depression may be entirely the result of that rather than the result of the mental strain of dealing with cancer.

    You can be the strongest person mentally and still get depressed due to chemical changes in your brain. As one minor example, I can’t take Gabapentin for my nerve damage without having it affect my mood in a negative way. Another example is that I’m as cool as a cucumber in temperament, but when my thyroid was overactive many years ago, I felt rage like I never have felt in my life. It was chemical, not emotional.

    As my therapist said, having BC is like carrying a very heavy backpack all day long. It makes us tired physically and mentally. Accepting that my body can’t do what I want it to do is hard for me. I’m a “work in progress”. 🙂

    Sending you hugs and wishes for continued help

  • bcincolorado
    bcincolorado Member Posts: 5,758
    edited July 2020

    Cancer is hard and the meds mess with everyone. Good for you for realizing you needed to talk to someone! Best wishes to you!!!

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