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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2020

    Has anyone seen the on air arrest of CNN reporter, producer and camera person in Minneapolis? The reporter was totally awesome, keeping his cool. The camera was still running after the police took it away. The reporter told them they were live on CNN before they did anything.

    The officer has been fired and arrested. They said he has had 18 previous complaints. I want to know how he made it past 5 complaints before being fired.


  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2020

    Washington Post on racial inequality with long history in Minneapolis: "The roots of these disparities run deep: In the first half of the 20th century, for instance, real estate transactions in many Minneapolis neighborhoods were bound by provisions that limited ownership to white families. "The said premises shall not at any time be sold, conveyed, leased, or sublet, or occupied by any person or persons who are not full bloods of the so-called Caucasian or White race"

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2020

    I think that is true of a lot of places in that time period. This is what was called Jim Crow and it was everywhere. I remember going to a store in the early 1940's with my grandmother. I wanted to use the drinking fountain and my GM said that's the colored fountain. I thought it was a silly remark because anybody could tell it was green. This was in Wichita, KS. I know the town I grew up in had some sort of deed restrictions to keep non-Caucasians out. In a way it was fortunate for me because it meant my parents never had an occasion to pass on their bigoted views. That was in OK.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited May 2020

    I'm older than many of you. I was raised in CA and had never seen overt racism. When I was 13, my parents took us to NYC and Wash DC, and then on a Greyhound bus to Williamsburg, VA. At one of the bus stops I went to get a drink at a fountain and some old lady snatched me back and said - don't you know that's the "colored" fountain? Well of course I didn't. Quite an education. Certainly not right then or now.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2020

    We always lived in mixed neighborhoods in Houston. It really helped in Seattle when I counseled African Americans in my job. They knew I understood and believed them. Several men told me it was harder working here where they were the only or almost only the only black person on the job. They said it was hard to tell if the boss really didn't like them personally or was just a racist.

  • cake8icing
    cake8icing Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2020

    ananda8, you are dead-on right about Amy Cooper. Privileged young *itch who was used to working things her way and I was so happy to see her get her comeuppance.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited May 2020

    The best part of hiring the most qualified person for the job is you end up with multiples of every group of people in your area. I was able to do this and minorities could actually relax and take job criticism for what it was. Because we were expanding significantly, it wasn't all that difficult for me to change the predominately white male shop I took over into something that was 50% female at all levels and had a racial makeup that reflected our community 40% minority.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited June 2020

    Please listen to the whole speech and send it to everyone you know regardless of politics. This is what a President sounds like. CNN covers every word of Trump but won't cover Bidden to the same extent. With the pandemic, grass roots is now the internet. Spread the word.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/02/biden-bla...


  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2020

    Amanda...thanks I listened to it and hope all the demonstrators register to vote and then vote.

    None of the Christian republicans I heard had any problem with our racist president wanting a church/bible photo op even if bullets and tear gas were needed to attack peaceful protesters. If there were such a thing as a recruiting campaign for atheists, that image could be very valuable. There is no low to which orangehead will not stoop to feed his narcissism and his white, christian base.

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2020

    Oh my, is Blackwater patrolling DC? Erik Prince runs Blackwater (aka academi) and is the brother of Betsy DeVos, Sec. of Ed who wanted to divert covid relief money to private charter schools. Betsy wants to create God's kingdom and Erik is a Catholic. The president used the bible and church as a photo prop after peaceful demonstrators were dispersed with gases and flash bangs. What kind of pscyo religious nuts are that group. I'm going to wait until one of the major news outlets reports more to fill in this story.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2020

    It’s more likely the federal prison riot squad. Barr sent them to DC and Miami.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2020
  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2020

    Franklin Graham can't pull up his big boy pants with the supreme court decision re: gay and transgender persons in the workplace. Looks like they are going to have to do some serious work to continue to discriminate on the basis of sex.

    "Many faith-based organizations, like schools or nonprofits, do not allow L.G.B.T. people to work there, citing religious beliefs that sex should only be between a man and a woman who are married.

    "No question it is going to make it harder to defend our religious freedom, as far as an organization being able to hire people of like mind," said Franklin Graham, who leads Samaritan's Purse, a large evangelical relief group.

    "I find this to be a very sad day," he said. "I don't know how this is going to protect us."

    Looks like he just can't find it in his Christian heart to celebrate that this decision is going to protect gay and transgender persons.

  • DogMomRunner
    DogMomRunner Member Posts: 616
    edited June 2020

    I despise Franklin Graham. He's a homophobic/bigoted wolf in sheep's clothing.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited June 2020

    Do they think by not acknowledging them they cease to exist? I don't see what difference it should make. People usually don't come to work with a badge declaring they're gay, so who would even know? I've worked with gay, lesbian and trans employees and there was no difference from working with hetero people. I'm strongly in favor of making workplaces (and society) open to everyone.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited June 2020

    For the trumphumpers, Christianity seems to be "Who can we hate and disenfranchise today?"

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited June 2020

    I think it's always been that way for many evangelicals, Alice. They were much quieter about it during the Obama years. Trump just gives them permission to shout it, loud and proud.


  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2020

    dogmom...succinct and spot on.

  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited June 2020

    "I can't hire you because I believe my invisible sky daddy said gays are yucky. I also can't stop thinking about it and it makes me feel all tingly." 

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited June 2020
  • DogMomRunner
    DogMomRunner Member Posts: 616
    edited June 2020

    Gotta wonder how many in that organization are in the closet. Sad. I guess they’ll have to stay there

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited June 2020

    I say let them stay in the closet, but do not punish those who come out and want to be free to work, play, love as they wish.

    Daily reminders how beliefs about religious liberty and those who vote for that liberty enact policies that deny others the same freedom. There needs to be emoji for 'fed up".

    I also need a smile and a nap!

    https://www.facebook.com/whydontyousharethiz/video...


  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited June 2020

    Religious liberty is the right believe and teach to fellow religious anything one can imagine.

    Civil liberty is the right of the minority to be treated the same as the majority in the civil realm.

    Civil liberty cannot be infringed by religious beliefs or imaginings.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited June 2020
  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2020
  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited June 2020

    No time to catch up now, just dropping this off, lol


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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited June 2020

    I don't think you understand what "defunded" means. --- "Defund the police" means reallocating or redirecting funding away from the police department to other government agencies funded by the local municipality. That's it. It's that simple. Defund does not mean abolish policing. And, even some who say abolish, do not necessarily mean to do away with law enforcement altogether. Rather, they want to see the rotten trees of policing chopped down and fresh roots replanted anew. Camden, New Jersey, is a good example. Nearly a decade ago, Camden disbanded (abolished) its police force and dissolved the local police union. This approach seems to be what Minneapolis will do in some form, though the nuances are important.

    Different from abolishing and starting anew, defunding police highlights."

    You may want to read the rest of the article. I'd be interested in your thoughts about it.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/06/19/what-does-defund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/


  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited June 2020

    For too long, the police have been called upon to be mental health professionals, homeless outreach specialists, child welfare counselors, drug and alcohol interventionists, and providers of a host of other services they are neither trained nor specialized for. Meanwhile, the budgets for the employees and departments that ARE trained and DO specialize in these issues have been redirected into beefing up the overtasked police force. "Defund the police" means reversing this trend and returning funds back to the community-support organizations that help prevent crime from happening in the first place. It's proactive crime prevention rather than reactive criminal persecution.

    We need to let doctors be doctors, let counselors be counselors, and let police go back to just being police.

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited June 2020

    I think it needs to go even one step further and reverse the trend of Police thinking of themselves as warriors. That encourages an "us vs them" mentality. When they see the people they are supposed to be serving as their enemy, it makes abuses of power not just permissible, but inevitable.

    I prefer the approach of training our police as guardians. To "Protect and Serve" shouldn't just be slogan painted on their car doors.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited June 2020

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