Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, tells us to stay home.
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Shared with hubby. As a Recovering Catholic (TM), he'll love it.
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Miriandra, For you and your Dh.
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I am so stealing that, Ananda.
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Hello All — Since first I saw the title of this thread, I often have thought of your community members. Having different spiritual beliefs doesn't keep me from hoping your cancer journeys go as well and uneventfully as possible. Best wishes and Aloha.
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The New York Times has the best graphics. Check out how the states are doing in handling Covid-19.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/07/us/...
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Saw this young boys, 17 year old, website he started in January, 2020 to track covid19. There was a story about him in March that I've also included. Amazing.
https://1077theend.radio.com/blogs/gregr/seattle-t...
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Alice - I LOVE the "it's a trap" picture. Thanks for posting.
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Copied from another post: ARGH!!! From the victimized evangelical Christians.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/05/09/opinion-ba...
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It amazes me how the Christians think the atheists are organized and planning to ban their religion. What kool aid are they drinking? From my perspective we're about as organized as a herd of cats. We just want to be left alone to not believe and not have their point of view forced down our throats.
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Precisely, Wrenn. My thought is whatever works for you, go for it. But, and this is a very big but, your right to religious beliefs stop just short of my body, my beliefs and, most importantly, my government. That's what Evangelicals don't choose to comprehend.
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Hi, Everyone; It would be nice to have FAITH so strongly. I have a lovely friend who I am sure wore out her rosary praying to St. Peregrine on my behalf. I thank her for her desire to help and her strong belief but she doesn't try to make me "believe" and it gives her comfort. My dentist, an Iranian, said he'd mention me to Allah. So thank you, Dr. H. Personally, if there is "Spirit" it is all around us, in the blowing of wind, the rustling of trees, the birds' songs, the flowers that return in the spring after sleeping through the winter..... I guess I believe in the Turning of The Great Wheel. Maybe there is something to putting the energy out there, whether it is Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Witchcraft --- whatever gets you through the day. Do No Harm. And please don't worry about my eternal damnation. I'll be just fine, thanks.
The pictures on the news of men wearing masks, body armour and carrying assault weapons into a legislative building terrified me. I am a Canadian and we do have our crazies and a horrid mass shooting in Nova Scotia recently (a stunningly rare event in Canada) but assault weapons in front of Parliament would never have been allowed. My husband sees what is happening down your way as the Balkanization of the USA. There will be de facto mini-nations: California/Oregon/Washington,/Nevada...New York/New Jersey/Connecticut etc. I suppose Texas will be a Lone State .
Sorry, I digress -- but why is it that folks who say they believe in "a loving God" seem to behave in such unloving ways.? Fundamentalist of all religions and stripes puzzle and anger me.
Bright Blessings
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In my experience, fundamentalists rely on the old testament sections that talk about abominations and new testaments that talk about hell. Average Christians have never read the bible and believe it is a "good book" full of love. My niece started to read the bible and had to stop because she found it too upsetting. She's a Catholic.
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I grew up mainstream, fairly progressive Protestant (UCC). We certainly did read the Bible, in Sunday School and summer Bible School, as did my friends who were Presbyterian, Methodist, and other "normal" denominations. From what I understand from my Catholic husband, they didn't read it growing up, but had it selectively fed to them by the priests and nuns. I didn't know any fundamentalist types until I met a few when I was older, and knew better than to ask them questions about religion!
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Alice, Now try reading it cover to cover as an adult. That's why my niece couldn't do it. Most Catholics only get selected readings of the Epistles and Gospels and those only as a part of Mass. Reading the bible is not encouraged.
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ananda8: My mother was raised Catholic and sent to convent school where the nuns beat her for being left-handed. She was living in Quebec and wore a woolen uniform in summer. So hot. There was a stream in the convent grounds and she got caught skinny-dipping, was dragged before the Mother Superior, berated and made to kneel and pray for hours. Needless to say rather than having all that indoctrination and fear stick she left the church as an adult. My father has a smattering of Scots Presbyterian. (Aye, it's a fine a day today but we'll pay for it tomorrow) He hated it. He wanted fun in this life, not the after life. That being said, he thought that in 1950 Canada we should be exposed to the Judeo-Christian backbone that essentially created our society. So we got dragged to church. We went to a structurally beautiful Anglican church. I was impressed and in awe of all the stained glass, the huge pipe organ, the carved pews. Dad embarrassed me by singing too loudly. (I look back and he had a magnificent voice and before WWII sang with a Big Band) I liked it when the minister came in followed by the choir in all those lace collars and purple and gold surplices. It as a good show. I liked the choir and then the sermon would start and I would count the number of "Books of Common Prayer" still in the racks at back of the pew in front. The torture would start. Then I was sent downstairs to Sunday School that was also torture except for the painting we got to do. I was the youngest and when I hit age 10 Dad asked if I wanted to go. I said no. He asked why and I said, not so succinctly but basically "I only like the opening number" and that was that. He was relieved and we ceased going. My older sisters continue to go not for prayers and homilies but to sing.
None of my three sisters' kids were raised in anything resembling standard religious teachings. See you all in purgatory or limbo!!
Out of curiousity, in my 20's, I decided to read the Old Testament.. There sure is a lot of incest and murder and horrible things in there.
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I took a history of religion class in college. When presented in a long line of religions Judaism and Christianity didn't seem special at all. Didn't make any more sense than Raven brought the Sun. I later attended a Tibetan Buddhist temple for several years. I decided what I like is chanting in a language I don't understand.
I think all the men on my husband's side of the family were/are atheists. DH and DS both are. We had to go to a Christmas service while visiting DS because he told the newspaper it was a family tradition. The entire family said we certainly were not aware of it. I think he voluntarily went to a Christmas Service with a girlfriend in the large Episcopal (high church Angelican) Cathedral.
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Buddhism is a terrific philosophy but is can be a horrible religion just like they all can be. Jefferson cut up a bible and removed all the nonsense so all that was left was the story of a philosopher. https://thejeffersonbible.com/
Note that Jefferson does not include the Epistles.
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ananda8
Oh, I read the whole thing as an adult, out of curiosity. Some parts make for decent literature, and several parts are interesting from an anthropological point of view. I even read some chapters in multiple translations for comparison. The literary quality tanks in the more recent versions. King James makes it all sound better than it actually is, due to the language. I grew up with Revised Standard, which kept a little of the literary quality but was easier for children to understand. Now it's just a sad mess, which I guess is appropriate!
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AliceB: You've seen the "red letter" version of the King James? Everything Jesus supposedly said was in red. The picture at the front of the family copy made him look like my Norse/Celtic ancestors...long wavy RED hair. Ha ha. Yes, the King James version makes all the drivel sound magnificent.
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Big deal to open churches during pandemic ..Maybe Orange attended Church of the Petulant Child at his golf course.
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Magiclight, that got stolen so fast you may have seen a blur!
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Ditto, magiclight. Posting that one on my Facebook feed.
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Melania Trump calls for 'As a nation, let's focus on peace, prayers & healing' No mention of justice, of stopping her husband's language of hate, revenge, retaliation, tweets about taking up guns and shooting. Peace, prayer and healing are not softer words as reported in the Washington Post, but words spoken out of ignorance of the violence perpetuated against people of color. Melania also said that "Our country allows for peaceful protests, but there is no reason for violence", yet George Floyd was violently killed by police. So, praying is the only solution that woman can offer.
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After one of the recent police shootings, a spokesman said her crime was "sleeping while black". White American needs to work on themselves and police their police. I would be absolutely terrified if I were the mother of a black teenage male. And rightfully so.
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A woman like Amy Cooper wasn't making her first call to the cops about a black man. She was way too smooth in her threat and in her call to the police. She has probably threatened others before and may have ruined the life of some by having them arrested. It was justice that she was fired from her Wall Street job and I hope she is charged with filing a false police report. Cops aren't the only racists who ruin lives. A certain class of white women have been doing it for generations.
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