Ladies in EARLY 50's.....cancer dx....

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Hi I am curious about something. I found a lump when I was 49. DX happened not long after my 50th bday in 2017. I had surgery, chose no radiation or tamoxifen with my medical oncologists support.

So....with that all said, my question is: "Do you think there is a correlation between going into menopause and dx of breast cancer?" I have been premenopausal the past couple of years. But now I believe I may be in active menopause. (I still have 6 mo to go to have my 1 yr no cycle) I just wonder if my hormones being wonky because of my pre menopausal state could have also contributed to my cancer? Just curious if anyone else has wondered about this.

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  • GreenHarbor
    GreenHarbor Member Posts: 265
    edited February 2019

    Hi Jons girl... I was diagnosed at age 51 (very similar diagnosis to yours!) after being in menopause for 3ish years. Even after the ovaries stop producing estrogen, it’s still made in fat tissues. After all, men get breast cancer too, as well as women in their 30s and 70s. While some cancers, like skin and lung cancer, have more clear cut causes, I really think breast cancer comes from a variety of factors.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited February 2019

    Hi GreenHarbor: Wow yes we had similar dx. Thanks for sharing! We were dx around the same time too. Interesting. Yeah I know breast cancer is caused probably by many factors. Clearly though hormones play a huge role in breast cancer. Or that is my thought. I thought it might be interesting to find out how many women here are around the same age at time of dx...early 50s. And how menopause may have played into the dx of breast cancer. Just curious. Thank you for your comments! I appreciate that! I hope all is going well with your recovery!

  • Cherryi3
    Cherryi3 Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2019

    Hi, 51 here and no periods for 4 years. Just diagnosed this past October. I wondered if my early menopause had something to do with this. I did take hrt for a year and a half. The tumor would have started before the hrt though. I’m still mad at myself for taking it.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    I have a strong suspicion my cancer is hormone related as:

    -Nobody in my family of origin has BC or any C. Everyone has lived to 85-96

    - Dx was about 2.5 years after menopause

    - I was exposed to an endocrine disruptor (DES)

    - DES daughters have high rate of POST menopausal BC.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited February 2019

    Hi Cherri3: Thank you for sharing your experience! Yeah to me....it is just really interesting that apparently there are more than just myself who got cancer around menopause time.

    santabarbara: Thank you for sharing your experience! So your dx was around menopause too. In my family my maternal gma had breast cancer.... my maternal aunt had breast cancer dx two wks prior to my dx. she had lobular. Yet with all this family having cancer....no genes. I had the gene testing and was thankful for my negative results. Just really causing questions as to how I got this and to me it is interesting it has happened not far from when I apparently was going into menopause.

    Can you tell me what a endocrine disrupter is? Sorry dumb question probably but not sure what that is. DES? Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

  • Labmom82
    Labmom82 Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2019

    I've wondered the same. I was diagnosed in October and I am 50. October was my 10th month with no period. I have been in perimenopause for several years having hot flashes and extremely long periods sometimes up to 45 days long and very heavy. Hormones were so out of whack. I will find out at the end of the the month if I am officially in menopause based on lab work

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited February 2019

    Labmom: Wow.....very interesting! Yes I truly wonder if menopause can cause added issues because of the cycles shutting down. Humm very interesting! Thank you for sharing your experience! Wow well congrats for getting through menopause....sounds like you are nearly there! I have a few months to go!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited February 2019

    I was 53, I went into menopause at 44, my periods stopped completely at age 44.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited February 2019

    meow-wow ok. So cancer was years after menopause for you. Interesting. Thank you for sharing!!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited February 2019

    Yes, my oncologist was happy that I was post menopausal by 9 years he prescribed AI drugs.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited February 2019

    yeah being post menopause would change drug options. It’s interesting to me I don’t think they really have any other options other than tamoxifen for those cancer pts who are premenopausal. Wonder if they have drugs they are working on

  • bbbddd168
    bbbddd168 Member Posts: 32
    edited March 2020

    53, I was just diagnosed IDC grade 2, one spot 7mm cancer, right next to it another 9mm not tested yet. Still debating lumpectomy or mastectomy. I am thinking since it is Hormone driven(ER+, PR+), Hormone therapy should work for me. But I have some heart issue and it is on the right side, is it better for me to do mastectomy to avoid radiation? Still debatim

  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited March 2020

    Clearly hormones do have an impact on ER/PR+ cases. Not sure about causing it, but the majority of breast cancers are diagnosed post-menopause.

    I was diagnosed at 45 and am now 50 and premenopausal. I've had no perimenopause symptoms whatsoever.

  • ChaClarey
    ChaClarey Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2020

    I was diagnosed at 50 at my first breast screening mammogram and was not menopausal, however the month of diagnosis was my last period.

  • nonomimi5
    nonomimi5 Member Posts: 434
    edited March 2020

    I was 53 almost 54. I had missed getting Mammogram the year before (never thought it would happen to me) so I could have had BC even a year before. I was menopausal for couple of years

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    bbbddd168:

    My cancer was small (mm) on left side. I chose lumpectomy no radiation or estrogen blocking drugs. No Radiation decision for me was based on wanting to keep some of the options in case it were to return down the rd. I am almost 3 yrs post cancer. This was the right decision for me. All of our cancers are different. You have to make the decision that's best for you. You don't state what yr stage of yr cancer is, maybe you don't know yet. That helped me make my decision. I was stage 1A. Grade 1.

    I hope you have a wonderful weekend and hope all is going well with yr treatment. A good medical team for yr care is important. Make sure you have a breast surgeon who is caring and supportive.

    Blessings! Keep us posted how all is going. We are here for you!

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    summerangel:

    Yeah I got br cancer at 49 (probably before that) and next month if no cycle will be officially in menopause. I’m 52.

    I haven’t had a ton of symptoms

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    chaclary: hummm that's interesting huh!? Hope all

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    chaclary:

    I really think mammo’s and other diagnostics for breast cancer should start much earlier. That’s my two cents.

    Mammo never caught my cancer. But I know they work for breast tissue that isn’t dense.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    nonomimi5:

    I think I may have missed my mammo the year before too as I recall? I’m not sure. But they could never really see well in my breast tissue anyway because of my dense tissue so I sorta had a false sense of security with thinking I was young and it couldn’t happen to me. But then I found out my tissue they couldn’t really see through. And if I hadn’t felt my tumor (it was near top of breast tissue) I wonder if it would have been found.


  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    thank you all for sharing your experiences with breast cancer and associated with menopause timeframe. This is interesting!

    Hope you all have a wonderful weekend

  • ChaClarey
    ChaClarey Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2020

    Hello Jons Girl,

    My breasts were described as heterogeneously dense as well, which may be reason I didn’t feel 2.1cm lump. I will make sure I stay on top of my mammograms and ask for extra imaging if I have any doubts.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    chaclary: thanks for your reply. I'm not sure where you live. But because I have extremely dense breast tissue in my state in the USA (and many other states) women with heterogeneous and extremely dense breast tissue qualify for extra diagnostics. More than just mammogram. My insurance pays

    I know mammograms work for some types of tissue but I got a copy of the mammogram disk and looked after my Br cancer dx. You could see the sticker they placed on my tumor but you could NOT see my tumor. My trust is very low with mammograms right now with my tissue type. I'm glad they do catch cancer for most women (approx 60%). But a diagnostic 3D mammogram didn't catch my cancer.

    I'm just sharing my experience. Mammos are great for most women. I'm just not in that group. Unfortunately.

    I hope all goes well for your treatment going forward. Blessings to you!

  • Celand
    Celand Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2020

    I was diagnosed at age 51. I was considered high risk because my Mom had bc and died from it in 1976. So, I had a baseline mammogram at 30, and then annually beginning at age 35. Mine was caught via mammogram and ultrasound, this was the only year that I was a couple of weeks late getting it done. (my dog had jumped on me and my left breast got scratched, causing nipple to scab over, I thought this was an injury but ended up as bc) Following a stereotactic and surgical biopsy it was determined that I was Stage 1b and my surgeon recommended radiation to follow. My tumor was also downgraded after surgery from a 2 to a 1, the least aggressive type. I didn't need chemo due to a low Oncotype score of 5. Now, we were uncertain of my menopausal status, so my gynecologist did bloodwork and I was told that based on the results that I was post menopausal, my medical oncologist prescribed Arimidex, however, I was still having episodes of bleeding, I stopped taking the Arimidex and went to another oncologist, who informed me that a woman is not completely postmenopausal until her blood work shows that she is AND she has gone one complete year with no bleeding. I then was switched to Tamoxifen. I am now 3-1/2 years out and having some side effects but able to function. I was prescribed birth control pills for many years and I do wonder if that contributed to my ending up getting bc, I am brca negative and have no predisposition to any type of cancer. I am ER/PR positive Her2 negative. The last doctor who prescribed me the mini pill (progestin only) advised me that I could safely take these until I went through menopause, she was a GP, when I saw the Gynecologist, she told me that this pill was forcing me to keep having periods. I still am angry at myself for not questioning the GP or I should have consulted the gynecologist way earlier. I also ended up getting two uterine biopsies and a DNC since starting Tamoxifen, all clear there. Anyway, you must truly advocate the yourself.

  • prepmom
    prepmom Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2020

    I have often wondered the same thing! I was diagnosed at 50 after years of being perimenopausal with periods that were absolutely crazy. Since my surgery in August I've only gotten my period twice, so definitely headed towards menopause. I elected BMX due to family history (my mom was diagnosed at 48, healthy at 75! Go mom!), and a DX of both DCIS and LCIS. I was tested for a panel of 15 gene mutations - nothing. Thank goodness for improved diagnostic tools!

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    celand:

    Thank you for sharing yr story. That's so great your doing well after 3.5yrs post cancer. I will be 3 yrs in May post cancer. I completely agree with what you said. Advocating for ourselves is so important!!

    My maternal gma had Br cancer twice and died of Mets I believe. I started having mammo's after her death as I recall. Also was tested for genes but I had no genes.

    I hope your treatment continues to go well going forward.

  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    prepmom:

    Thank you for sharing your story. I’m officially in menopause next month if no cycle. Last year I had one cycle so the ‘count’ for a year with no cycles started over. Lol.

    I hope your treatment goes well going forward.

  • JRNJ
    JRNJ Member Posts: 573
    edited March 2020

    Hi Jons girl, I was pre-menopausal and very regular at 53, two weeks before 54 bday. Had my kids at 39 and 41. Got pregnant right away, no fertility drugs. I read both of theses are risk factors, late menopause and having kids "late." Most of my friends were done for years. I was also never on birth control pills, which I thought was a good thing, I guess not. Now I'm hearing it might help prevent cancer? I was diagnosed after first 3d mammo. With ILC I don't trust mammos. I had a 13 cm LCIS, which obviously was growing for years. It grows in sheets. and with fibrocystic breasts full of lumps, I ignored lumps. I should have been screened better. I didn't realize 3d was at other facilities within the same company! years before and no one told me. And I have a friend that gets periodic mri screening due to dense breasts. Mad at DRs, radiation place..... Two of my doctors recommended going to AIs and skipping tamoxifen. It is shown to work better, especially with ILC. Sloan wanted to do Lupron shots to shut down my ovaries, but I want them out. They are too strong, I don't need them, and I don't want another med with side effects that might not work. With a BMX I don't get any more screening at all, unless I put in silicone implants, they do periodic mris to check for leakage. The system is messed up.





  • Jons_girl
    Jons_girl Member Posts: 696
    edited March 2020

    JRNJ: I agree the system is messed up. My Br surgeon told me about breast cancer...there are things we are still learning, things we have to unlearn, and things we still don't know. She said something like that. I thought wow. That was said by a surgeon who's been in that line of work for over 30 yrs!

    Thanks for sharing yr story. I don't trust mammo's either but they seem to work better for people with more fatty tissue and not dense tissue.

    I will be officially in menopause next month. 53 in May. Not sure if I'm considered late menopause or not?

    I am considering having periodic MRI. But my breast surgeon doesn't want me to have them due to the contrast being found that it can build up in a persons brain. So I have been having ultrasound every 6 mo for now. They are doing a study in Seattle on contrast free mri for breast cancer screening. I'm hoping they stop the contrast mri for breast cancer screening. And give us contrast free options for screening in the future

    I hope your treatment goes well. Sending a hug yr way.

  • LB13
    LB13 Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2020

    I have been wondering about all of this too. Mine was caught on yearly 3D mammo. I have gone religiously since I was 38. I was diagnosed 3 days after my 51st birthday this past January. In September of last year, I had an endometrial ablation (no more periods, now) but I am not truly in menopause yet according to blood work from MO following my lumpectomy. I am in the midst of radiation treatments now and will be taking tamoxifen following.

    My family history is a shit-show - mom had BC twice, two different kinds - two different breasts. One lumpectomy, one mastectomy. I have a multitude of aunts, uncles and cousins that died from or survived colon, prostate, uterine, cervical, liver cancer and one cousin that had ovarian and died. So, today, I did the gross 'spit in the tube' genetic test and am about to mail it off at the FedEx facility. I PRAY for no positive genes, but based on my family history - would rather be armed with knowledge if I do. But...... I am scared of those results that I won't get for two weeks... uuuuuugggggghhhhhh.

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