Mammaprint results and treatment

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Kringle12
Kringle12 Member Posts: 30
edited February 2020 in Just Diagnosed

Hi, I recently had surgery for my DCIS. In the pathology they found a small area is idc. No positive lymph nodes, but the sentinel node (only one tested) later came back with isolated tumor cells. So now I’m in the process of figuring out treatment with my oncologist. Originally it seemed I’d only need tamoxifen or maybe AI (dr was going before the tumor bd to determine which would be better). Since my last appt, my tissue was sent out for the mammaprint test and I saw online it came back as high. That’s all I know. I guess I’ll get more details at my appt My appt with he dr isn’t until mid March. I vaguely remember her mentioning if it came back as high I may need chemo.

I guess my question is, has anyone ever not suggested chemo with a high risk mammaprint? My idc (only 2nm) and dcis (6cm) are both grade 3. My ki67 was 70%, which I’m wondering if that put me as high risk.

Thanks in advance!

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  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited February 2020

    Kringle, I had an intermediate Onco -score, but never did the mamma-print test. With a Grade 3 tumor and high Mammaprint, I would think guidelines would suggest chemo, but your MO will give you their opinion. Keep in mind, that a higher Grade tumor usually responds better to chemo than a lower grade.There may be other determining factors, such as your age or any other health issues you may have. Have you had genetic testing done? Family History of BC? There are a lot of pieces to the puzzle. Best wishes moving forward.

  • Kringle12
    Kringle12 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2020

    Thanks for the quick reply! I did have genetic testing and it all came back negative. I am also 45 years old, so I don’t know how that factors in. I guess I’m holding on to a small glimmer of hope that since the idc was small and technically negative nodes, that I may not need the chemo.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited February 2020

    Were the ITC checked to ensure that they are invasive cancer and not displaced DCIS? When ITC are found in diagnoses of pure DCIS, the assumption is that the cells were accidentally displaced into the nodes by a surgical instrument. I know that there is a particular staining test that can be done that may be able to confirm if this is the case (i.e. if the ITC are DCIS cells or invasive cancer cells). And are you certain that you had ITC (less than 0.2mm) and not micromets (greater than 0.2 mm and/or more than 200 cells, but none greater than 2.0 mm)? This makes a big difference because ITC are considered node negative: Breast Cancer Staging American Joint Committee on Cancer

    pN0 No regional lymph node metastasis identified histologically

    • Note: Isolated tumor cell clusters (ITC) are defined as small clusters of cells not greater than 0.2 mm, or single tumor cells, or a cluster of fewer than 200 cells in a single histologic cross-section. ITCs may be detected by routine histology or by immunohistochemical (IHC) methods. Nodes containing only ITCs are excluded from the total positive node count for purposes of N classification but should be included in the total number of nodes evaluated.

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    pN0(i−) No regional lymph node metastases histologically, negative IHC

    pN0(i+) Malignant cells in regional lymph node(s) no greater than 0.2 mm (detected by H&E or IHC including ITC)

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    With a 2mm ER+/PR+ tumor, and technically being node negative, according to the NCCN Treatment guidelines, normally chemo would not be considered. This changes for micromets, where the Oncotype score (or in your case, the Mammaprint score) comes into play.

    https://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/d... Patients guidelines are available but they are not very detailed. The Physician Guidelines are extremely detailed however you have to register to be able to access them (although registration is easy).

  • Kringle12
    Kringle12 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2020

    Thank you for all that info- very helpful!

    Well, that seems more hopeful than I was imagining, if I’m reading correctly. My lymph nodes were classified as pN0(i+) on my pathology report.

    One thing I’m not clear, being they’re ITC’s not micromets, does the high risk mammaprint still put me as likely to NOT have chemo

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