Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?

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  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2020

    When I tap into the awareness of the universe, I feel so flipping lucky.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2020

    Excuse me !! This is not how a president speaks. Wake-up call. Time to Dump Trump in the party of history where he belongs. The Federal Hoosegow.


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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2020

    Apologies for the post I removed. I lurk here because my son is an atheist and I have respect for his choice and that of anyone who lives the truth that is right for them. It was a political post for those who may not have seen it before I deleted it. I am sorry and will try my utmost to be careful in future.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2020

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    Such an interesting book. I had forgotten the part about striped sticks.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited February 2020

    Ananda8

    That post made my day! Thanks!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited February 2020

    Oh yes... particularly the 'women should keep quiet' line !!!

  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 549
    edited February 2020

    ananda, what a great thing to read first thing in the morning! The really crazy part is that there are still a lot of Bible literalists out there.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2020

    wanderweg, Bible literalists are an odd group. It makes one wonder if they have ever read the Bible. Reading the Bible cover to cover is the most common reason that people become atheists. The craziness and cruelty starts people asking questions.


  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2020
  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited February 2020

    😁😁😁😁😁

  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 549
    edited February 2020

    So true, Alice. I read the Bible cover to cover and it started me on the path to atheism. I tried hard to find work arounds to the craziness, but ultimately had to walk away.

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited February 2020

    Saw this quote on a relative's FB page. Even though we've never met, I swear she's my sister from another Mister. I hit "love" on everything she posts.

    "America will never be a Christian nation because the moment it becomes a Christian nation it will cease to be America'

    It was originally posted by Andrew Seidel.

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited March 2020

    Just watched part of the PBS show on the Ark. Doubt that PT Barnum said that, but the sentiments is right ---there is a sucker born every minute and they are lining up to see a story about the 6000 year old universe.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited February 2020

    It’s been four or five years since I stepped beyond my Christian faith into the great unknown. It was so scary at first because like many, I’d been conditioned with religious beliefs my whole life. It’s not that I intensely seek answers on a daily, weekly or monthly basis. I meander. I’m an avid reader, so if I a book or article that gives insight into what a former believer might experience, I will read it.

    This has served me well. I feel much more clear about why I am no longer Christian and I don't feel defensive or scared about my choice anymore. I saw how religion tries to get you to be submissive and not ask questions, and I can’t buy in to that. I’m more in the agnostic range. I think I’ve probably read more on religion in the past few years than a lot of church goers. They just get their information from the pulpit and seek no further. Hey, easier for them.

    My sister in law recently sent me a religious music video clip—she wants to heal me, I guess. The beautiful woman in the video dressed in a flowing white gown while walking through cliffs above the ocean with waves crashing into the shore, was singing to god to rescue her. It seemed to me Cinderella waiting for her prince to come save the day. More societal conditioning that women are to remain passive and let men take care of the hard stuff. First of all, I don’t live a life that I feel I need rescued from! I am also pretty sure if it was sil’s brother dealing with cancer, she would not send a video of a manly man singing to god to come rescue him.....




  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited February 2020

    Good point about the gender discrepancy.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2020

    Almost all religions put extra burdens on the female relating to "purity" of person, dress, and behavior. It's although religion itself was created to control women.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited February 2020

    Well duh! Women's value in primitive societies was obvious - we made babies. Men had to invent their reasons for being important. So they became "God's" chosen gender.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited February 2020

    That makes sense, in a pathetic kind of way.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited February 2020

    ...and the cooking, and drawing the water from the river, and tending & harvesting the crops, and making whatever clothes were needed, and the nursing when someone was sick, and..... Following right along with the gender discrepancy!!!

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited February 2020

    Churches need women to do the praying, to cook and clean for the clerics, to get the men into the pews. In my neighborhood, I see the women waiting on the catholic priests , who do not have wives, so the women in their churches dote on them like they are children, celebrate their birthdays in much bigger ways than they do for their own families, while at the same time calling them father. It is so bizarre.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2020

    I was raised Catholic and bizarre doesn't begin to describe it.


  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited February 2020

    If the ladies dote on the priest, at least they have a hope of currying favor with god in the afterlife. What thanks do they get at home for all the work they do? It makes sense to me, sadly. They're taking care of the person who might gain them something.

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited February 2020

    maybe they think some of the "godliness" will rub off on them.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited February 2020

    A lot of the women at the Catholic church my husband attended in the 1980s and 90s had the hots for the priests. They weren't that good-looking, but those women were like teenyboppers chasing a rock star. I guess they thought it was a safe crush - and it was, because the priests prefer them much younger of either sex. The other annoying thing was when they wanted parishioners to help with the big annual cleaning (before Easter, I think), they'd schedule men's chores at night, but women's during the day on weekdays. Then they'd complain that younger women weren't volunteering. Those sexist idiots thought all the young women should be 1950s housewives.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited February 2020

    There's no difference between "men's chores" and "women's chores". That's just as stupid as assuming that women don't have day jobs.

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited February 2020
  • Yogatyme
    Yogatyme Member Posts: 2,349
    edited February 2020

    I recently had someone tell me they are trying to help a single dad by making some meals for him & his kids. I would have had no issue with this until she said, “poor guy. He works all day and has to come home and make dinner, do homework, kids activities”. I responded that single moms have been doing this for years and rarely does someone make meals for them, or mow their lawn, clean gutters.... just saying

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited February 2020

    As most religions are patriarchal, it very much is about controlling women. Among other things, society in general cannot handle the sensuality of women. Religions place priorities on purity. I recently read a book on the topic, and it’s appalling the adverse effect the purity movement has on a woman’s sexuality not to mention her self worth.

    It’s an interesting observation, how women baby priests but call them Father. Quite dysfunctional, actually. A Church of Christ assembly in town holds a big mother’s day luncheon where all the men cook and serve the women and clean up. One friggin’’ day of the year. Oh, the mens think they are so generous to do this! “Look, we really do appreciate our womens.”


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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2020

    Being a good atheist, my husband does 70% of the cooking and 95% of the dishes and all of his own laundry, all the grocery shopping (I unload the car) and all of the household finances. He is disabled and he figures he has to do his best to pull his weight since everything else is up to me.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited February 2020

    Ananda, Good for him! My husband does that much cooking and grocery shopping but I do all the dishes. I think he cooks because I'm a really lousy cook.

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