Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited March 2007
    Mizsissy!

    Big hugs and congratulations on finishing chemo! I'm so happy for you!!! Have a great time at your party, I'm sure it will be lovely!

    Lynn
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited March 2007

    I feel like a lurker, but when I get uneasy I can read everyone's post and relate. I seem to of had every side effect known to man with my AC tx's. My mouth is so sore and nothing tastes good so eating is actually boring. IowaCindy I can relate with your upsidedown digestive tract. Mine is horrible, I had IBS before BC and so that is a battle of its own. I see my Onc. this Friday and I suppose get the regime for the 12 taxols awaiting me. I don't know whether I am having a yeast infection or UTI right now. Everything on me seems broken, even my vision has periods of blurriness! My bald head has stubble, does that mean it's trying to regrow?!?! Another question... AC was very rough on me, severe flu symptoms for days afterward, is the taxol going to be rough too? I feel like a prisoner in my own home and would like to go back to work. No way would AC allow that.

  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited March 2007
    Hello all:

    My Darling Dan finally got home from the hospital this afternoon. He has a cracked rib, torn cartilege between ribs, torn muscles, bruised kidney (they were really worried about this, so did an ultrasound also), and the cut required he get a tetanus shot, but no stitches.

    I have told him that he is not allowed to put these lightbulbs in my bathroom, or bedroom, as I have a hard enough time seeing.

    I'm doing really good with #4...went for a long walk today. My big lab scared up about 500 geese. It was fun just watching him having so much of a good time. It's really melting here, almost all the snow is gone...looking forward to the crocuses coming up soon.

    Jan when is your birthday?? Date please...popsicles is a really good idea, cake, anything that you think of that would make you laugh or happy...best wishes to you on that day.

    Lynn, you're a March baby too....who else is in March?

    I have not taken Taxol, so I can't help with your question, but there is a line about Taxol under the chemo section that you can go to Kids123. Good luck with that and make sure you let us know how you are doing.

    I finally found something that helps my taste buds. It's Safeway Select Clear Sugar-Free Tangerine & Lime flavor. It is really helping my appetite too.

    God Bless all.

    Joni
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007
    Nancyab and Kids123,
    Glad you both started posting. Sounds like I am on almost the same track as both of you, just finished 4 rounds of AC and next the Taxol. Everyone tells me the Taxol is milder, but from what I have researched it still causes nausea, fatigue, all those things, plus there is a risk of allergic reaction, not just in your system but also in the vein where it is delivered if it should leak at all. And they told me to be sure someone else drives the first time, because you are given a high dose of Benadryl intravenously and it may leave you too drowsy to drive. I guess I would say I'm going into it hoping for the best but trying to prepare for all the possibilities, and not expecting to be a miracle of energy that first week. I do hope the metallic taste is less with Taxol, like all of you I'm also very tired of the metal mouth.
    Mizsissy, party hearty! It may be a small group physically, but mentally we will all be there toasting with you.
    Mrs. Shay, I hope you can get a second opinion and then just go for the surest hit on the cancer. It's true you only do get one chance to blast it early, that was the big thing in my own decision.
    Nancyab, I get that blurriness too. I made my first trip to the library in two months today and then stood there squinting, trying to read the book spines. And the stubble on my head feels like Velcro, I don't know if it's trying to finish falling out or grow. I would swear it's starting to grow a bit however. I still have eyebrows and lashes, amazingly. Greetings to everyone else, too many posts to answer all but I so appreciate everything you all write.
    Hey, has anyone else had people trying to sell them Limu, a Hawaiian seaweed that is supposed to cure cancer? It's sold on a pyramid sales plan, and from what I've researched is expensive quackery, but someone who found out I have cancer has started a bunch of agents emailing me sales pitches. I just delete, but sheesh! - Skye
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007
    Joni, just saw your post, I'm glad your hub will be ok. A scary thing to happen over a simple light bulb!
    I had another experience I've been meaning to share. Tuesday in the chemo room I was next to a gent in his 70s who is on his FIFTH go round with cancer in ten years. His attitude was amazing, he just keeps enduring, and his wife spends all her time knitting cute hats to give away to other patients. But he said to me, "You know , non-cancer people always like to say oh you'll get over the treatments and it will all be over, but they don't know that. They just want to make themselves feel better." It struck a cord with me because lately I've had so many people saying things just like that. One friend said, "oh I knew two ladies who had lumps popped out and now they are just fine, the same as ever." Well, God willing, we WILL finish treatment and be all better, but it feels so dismissive to me when people say that. We may stay better but I don't think any of us will ever be "just the same." I even finally said that to someone who gave me the "you'll be just fine because I know someone who had it five years ago and now they are," speech. Do any of you find yourself dealing with this? - Skye
  • micheled
    micheled Member Posts: 24
    edited March 2007
    I'm wondering if anyone else here is doing weekly Taxol?

    Initially our plan was dose-dense biweekly 4xAC + 4xTaxol. Yesterday I had my last AC. Now my oncologist says research shows that weekly Taxol is more easily tolerated by patients, and doesn't require Neulasta injections. Instead of biweekly for eight weeks, I will be receiving Taxol weekly for twelve weeks.

    Is Taxol most commonly done in weekly cycles, or in longer ones? Maybe I misunderstood, and weekly is the most common way of doing it. If not, I'd be interested in hearing what it's like for you doing it weekly.
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited March 2007
    Wow, Joni - what a scare for both of you.

    Glad you were up for a walk with the dog. Sounds lovely.
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited March 2007

    Skye what a perfect discription of our stubble, it is like velcro, I have a hard time getting a turban on! I have notice the blurriness when watching TV, do your eyes water profusely? People always think I'm crying. and Oh my how my nose runs. I have been through boxes and boxes of tissues! Anyway good luck with the taxol I'll let you know when I start, I know I have that and 33 rounds of rads to go. I just turned 49, bi-lateral mast. 19 nodes removed ER+ PR+ her2-.

  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2007
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    I had another experience I've been meaning to share. Tuesday in the chemo room I was next to a gent in his 70s who is on his FIFTH go round with cancer in ten years. His attitude was amazing, he just keeps enduring, and his wife spends all her time knitting cute hats to give away to other patients. But he said to me, "You know , non-cancer people always like to say oh you'll get over the treatments and it will all be over, but they don't know that. They just want to make themselves feel better." It struck a cord with me because lately I've had so many people saying things just like that. One friend said, "oh I knew two ladies who had lumps popped out and now they are just fine, the same as ever." Well, God willing, we WILL finish treatment and be all better, but it feels so dismissive to me when people say that. We may stay better but I don't think any of us will ever be "just the same." I even finally said that to someone who gave me the "you'll be just fine because I know someone who had it five years ago and now they are," speech. Do any of you find yourself dealing with this? - Skye




    I've had a few people tell me about so and so who had BC and now they're fine. I think they just want you feel there's hope.
    At this point I just say "it depends on what type BC you have and what stage. Unfortunately mine has already spread and there is no cure, only maintenance."
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2007
    Quote:

    Hey, has anyone else had people trying to sell them Limu, a Hawaiian seaweed that is supposed to cure cancer? It's sold on a pyramid sales plan, and from what I've researched is expensive quackery, but someone who found out I have cancer has started a bunch of agents emailing me sales pitches. I just delete, but sheesh! - Skye




    Hi Skye, no I haven't heard of Limu yet, but do have some relatives who sell something similar and I'm sure will come at me when I see them next. The stuff they sell does everything from manage your diabetes and blood pressure, to help you lose weight. Snake oil--and they are making a fortune off of it as they got in early.

    I am so offended by these things. I know that if it weren't a money maker, they wouldn't be hocking it. And let's face it, if *they* had cancer or any other type of serious condition, I seriously doubt they'd take this sh*t rather than go to the dr. AND, if this were truly a miracle cure, the top-of-the-pyrimid folks would sell it to a big pharma. company in a heartbeat.

    Of course there are things that do work, but somehow I don't think my cousin is mixing up a cancer cure in her kitchen.

    Amera
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited March 2007
    Hi Folks,

    Just checking in, on Day 3 of my last chemo and still waiting for it to hit. Sometimes I wonder if they're giving me a placebo (am I that much of a problem patient?!!!). Feel a little tired but the cold has hit, and I just feel foggy and groggy like have a cold. Have to get out in the snow and drive to get my neupogen shot. Then I'm coming home for a little self-pampering.

    Mrs. Shey is having a lot of troubles in every directon...she need our prayers and support now.

    I can't see too well right now so it's hard to respond to your recent posts. But I do know that DAR is finalizing her chemo today!!! Welcome to the post-chemo club, DAR!! Amera, you're up NEXT!!!!

    Aladora, you had chemo the same day I did. How are you doing? How about you Lynn. Who else just got infused?

    Back to my fog....

    Mizsissy
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited March 2007
    Hi All,
    Micheled, I have to have 12 weekly taxols too. My dr said that he is treating me as though I were node positive b/c I am triple negative, so that's why he suggests the taxol. He also says the weekly treatments are less difficult to tolerate than the denser ones. I must say that the prospect of going weekly for three months is upsetting, but I am tracking my treatment from diagnosis, so am halfway thru. I know that is probably a mind game, but I have to have something to hang on to! He says just muscle aches from taxol, but I am going to refill all my anti nausea scripts just in case.

    Joni, so glad you husband is ok. I broke some ribs about 10 yrs ago after a bad fall from a horse, and that is very painful. Poor guy.

    Skye, I agree with the "ignorant" types of statements that imply this is just a tiny glitch. I am confident we will be ok, but this is life changing and traumatic. I would not wish it on anyone!

    I hope everyone has a good, safe day.

    Melia
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited March 2007
    Yes, today is my last chemo. I went for my bloodwork yesterday and jumped every time the phone rang, but no call, so it's a go. I pray for big fat cooperative veins today!
    A friend of mine is on taxol/herceptin. She lives in New Brunswick. She gets the Herceptin every week and the taxol 3 out of 4 weeks. She had FEC last year and found it difficult, but is having no problems with this cocktail. The taxol infusion is time consuming; when she has only the herceptin it's really quick. She's had no nausea - and they never did control it last year. So I hope this is true for all of you starting taxol and/or herceptin soon.
    When I say I'm afraid and I wonder how I will handle the threat of a reccurence after (now) that active treatment is over, my dh says "well any of us could be diagnosed with cancer or something anytime". This is true, we're all getting older! I don't push it, because it's what he needs to believe for himself - that I'm at no greater risk than any one else. But for me, it feels different because I've seen the first leak in the dam, so I can't pretend. I think we all have every reason to be hopeful, but I wonder about life after treatment and days that don't revolve around bc. Wow, this has been a journey, and not one I'd ever take voluntarily.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    skye - Thanks for posting about the "you'll be fine" folks. While I hope it's true I don't think I'll ever be the same and I'll always worry about a recurrence. I am so sick of hearing about so-and-so's friend/sister/mom, etc. who had bc and are just fine now. I know they mean well - but like that man said I think they are just trying to reassure themselves as much as me. I hear comments like this all of the time!

  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited March 2007
    Good Morning Ladies,

    Joni, so glad Dan is ok and you're doing well with chemo #4. Sounds like it's warmer there than it is here. New England is definitely in a cold spell and I don't like it...it's March and supposed to be getting warmer!

    So every few years, your birthday falls on a Saturday and it's so nice because you can have a nice dinner out and not have to work, can sleep the next day and so forth. Yes, that's me this year, my birthday falls on a Saturday (March 24) BUT I'M HAVING CHEMO #4 THE DAY BEFORE! oh well!

    I'm finally starting to come out of the fog enough to be productive and things are starting to taste semi normal. When you're in the fog, it's so hard to see out but once you're there, it's such a relief!

    Hope everyone has a nice day!

    Lynn
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    Dar1 - congrats on your last chemo! Hope you veins hold out for you.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    Just curious - are you loosing or gaining weight during chemo? I think the general trend is to gain weight, but I've lost a few pounds with each round and now weigh less than I ever have before. I try to play catch up on the week that I feel good, but at this rate I am going to be way too skinny by the time I finish in May. Normally I'm happy to loose some weight, but I don't want to waste away to nothing.

  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007
    Good morning friends. Nancyab, I know what you mean about the watery eyes. I'm dabbing at them right now. They water all the time except when I'm sleeping, then they go dry as sandpaper. Lynn, I forgot to mention I'm also a March birthday, I'll be 56 on the 20th. A solid baby boomer. Dar1, a toast to your final chemo, that's better than a birthday. And to the others who have had the "you'll be fine" speech, I guess I'm not surprised to learn it's universal. I hope to goodness I never said that to anyone. I think my friend's c comment about "having the lumps popped out" as if they were teenage zits was probably the worst form of it I've heard. As my surgeon explained it to me, having a lumpectomy is like cutting a piece out of a pie, then trying to put the pie back together to make it look round again. It does make me think about how I can be more sensitive to others in different tough situations.
    I do think those trying to sell miracle cures to cancer patients are in a special class of lowness, however.
    Mizsissy, thanks for alerting us to Mrs. Shey's need for prayers.
    Right now I'm watching three deer ten feet outside my window, munching on corn we left for the turkeys. Time for a moment to appreciate the small stuff! - Skye
  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited March 2007
    Good morning ladies- hope everyone is well today, especially those who have just been infused this week. I go tomorrow for FEC #3 ( and final FEC, to be followed by 3 x taxotere) - I hope the neuropathy is not as bad this time - a few ladies have suggested taking L Glutamine and Vitamin B12 ( as recommended by their oncs. - I will be asking mine about this)
    Jan- regarding weight loss, I wish I had the prbolem of losing weight. I am just trying to maintain the weight I have, and not gain anymore. It's tough, because I used to go and work out 4 - 5 days/week at a women's club (like Curves, a 30 minute cycle) and I really enjoyed it. Since chemo, I have little energy to do much of anything, try to do a couple of aerobic dance videos when I can.
    Joni - hope your hubby isn't in too much pain, hope you are well too.
    Dar1- congrats on your last chemo.
    Lynne - March 23rd is my oldest daughter's 21st birthday - so I will think of you as we celebrate.
    Skye - I think people are nervous and may even feel a bit guilty when they see us - I mean, THEY don't have cancer, and they really do wish us well - they are just trying to be positive - and I like hearing how this one or that one is 5 years or 9 years or 12 years out - it makes me realize that this is not a death sentence - we have to be positive.
    Hope everyone has a great day... I am getting some pampering - my cousin does manicures and she is coming by to do a "Mini manicure" on me today - just some creaming, filing and polish - but it sure is nice.
    Caya
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007

    Jan, I have stayed pretty close to my starting weight but last time had gained a pound. I had thought it might be a good chance to try and lose a few but my onc said he would be very mad at me if I lost any weight so I just force feed myself even when I don't feel like eating. I know the steroids will make it easier to pack on the pounds too. I just don't want to have to buy bigger jeans when this is all over. - Skye

  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2007
    Weight: I lost a few the first round, though I don't know how. It seemed I was eating all the time. I gained the second and now, I feel like I have gained some more. However, I'm hoping it's steroid weight as I've not been eating a lot at all this round.

    I do get the steroid bloat for a few days post chemo but this is hanging around longer this time. I also do not want to buy bigger clothes after this is over.
    Amera
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited March 2007
    I have lost about 8 lbs, but that's good as it was weight I had gained since summer .... would like to lose another 10 or so, but my appetite is so finicky that I eat what sounds good. Am trying to ration the ice cream though! I guess I feel that this is a tough enough road without depriving myself of any food I want, which isn't much these days. Alcohol tastes awful, and I used to love having a drink after work. Now it tastes like acid. I guess that is a good thing?
    Melia
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited March 2007
    I gained 3 pounds the first round but managed to maintain this past round. Things are tasting really great but I am still hungry and carbs seem to work (mashed potatoes, ice cream, pasta). I'll be happy to maintain my weight until I'm done with chemo.

    Lynn
  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited March 2007
    Hello all:

    I have found something that actually works for my red, itchy, runny eyes. Novartis Tear-Gel, it keeps them moisturized a lot longer than normal drops. Also, it helps a bit with the runny nose.

    Also, do any of you have peeling skin...."fruit of the Earth, Vitamin E Skin Ccare Cream is realy helping me, and it has NO Alchohol base. Also I have the Fruit of the Earth Gel as they say this will help when you have radiation treatments. Jan can you check that out with your Mom.

    I have lost about 15 pounds since this cancer thing started. I think I shook them off in the first few months after I was diagnosed, because I was so scared. Since starting chemo I have only lost about 3 to 5 pounds. Right after chemo I'm hungry for a few day, but then I have 8 to 10 days where nothing tastes good, especially water. I live on fruit, apple pears, oranges, bananas, green grapes...etc.

    My girlfriend here in Calgary that took Taxol had a much easier time with it than A/C. She did say that they gave her a lot of Benadryl, so you definitely need someone there to drive you home. She took that Glutathione for neuropathy, and also rec'd B12 shots, and has had no problems. She finished her chemo on Dec 27...and her hair is coming back in rapidly now.

    Miss Shey...sending you prayers and hugs.

    Dar, Amera, & MizSissy...proud of you girls all finishing up chemo this week. Get rid of that nasty cold MizSissy.

    I have had someone trying to sell me something that is suppose to be a cure too....but I think it is called GojiJuice or something like that, and it is very expensive.

    Brenda my heart goes out to you with a Stage IV dxn. I hope your onc considers this a chronic disease, and sets you up with a game plan that works well for you.

    Skye, I loved your note about the deer. If hubby is better this weekend, we are taking a drive up to Banff, only about 1 hour out of Calgary. Elk, Moose, Big Horn Sheep, and Baby Deer would be lovely to see. It is really suppose to be a nice weekend here in Alberta, so looking forward to it.

    Welcome aboard Nancy, Michele and Brenda.

    Darling Hubby is home today, as he's still pretty stiff and sore.

    Maybe we should all put in our birthday, and I'll add it to MizSissy's list...that way we can all know who's day it is.

    Hugs to all.....Joni

    ** No Love, No Friendship can cross the path of our Destiny, without leaving some mark on it Forever **

    Francois Muriac, author
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2007
    My birthday is March 21st and I will be celebrating it in Utah with my daughter, her brandnew baby and her other two adorable kids. I'm excited. It will be an 18 hour drive, and it will be 5 days after chemo, but a bed will be made on the back seat of the minivan, and hubby and daughter will be driving.
    I have a friend who is a healthfood fanatic. She created some type of potion of which I have to put 3 drops under my tongue and before I do that, I have to hit the bottle on my arm first. Don't ask me why. She won't tell me what's in it, and my onc says, if you don't know what's in it, don't take it. I can understand that. Besides, you're not allowed to brush your teeth with anything minty, so it would have to be baking soda, and really, water makes me gag, let alone baking soda.
    I've met some wonderful cancer survivors who told me what to expect, and I appreciated that. Then I had some people who told me that things will be okay, but my favorite story is the lady who, after I told her my story, told me about her colleague who started with breast cancer, and now has stomach cancer and will probably die. I had to laugh about that later on. I'm not to worried about what will happen next. I believe in a God who is aware of every hair that falls of my head (and that means He's been aware of a lot). I believe that I will go when it is my time, and so recurrence is out of my hands. I will live for today, not for tomorrow, and I'm at peace with that.
    I've lost 11 pounds since chemo started. I track my weight every day, and it's quite sinusoidal. The dip is in the week after chemo, then it goes up some, followed by the next chemo dip, but slowly I lose more weight. Last year I bought a really nice blouse from Coldwater Creek, and it was too small. Guess what I'm wearing today
    By the way, next Tuesday is my last AC and then I have 4 Taxols on a bi-weekly basis. The nurse said that it will be a lot easier on me, but I should expect pain in my bones. I think I will prepare for nothing, because side effects are so personal. I never even had the Neulasta bone pain. Well back to work.
    Sure an glad for you Mizsissy - done already. Wow! Some day that will be the case for me.
  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited March 2007
    Hi all,
    Unfortunately my weight is exactly the same as before I was diagnosed. I thought I would atleast lose a few pounds. Figures.....
    Skye,
    My left eye is the teary one. It will not stop no matter what I do. At first I thought I got something in it and used eye wash. Now it is just running constantly too. I am sick of everyone saying that I will be fine.
    Joni,
    I am glad that your hub is ok. Take good care of each other.
    Lynn,
    I know it stinks to have the chemo the day before your birthday.. Go out a few nights before and celebrate!
    Dar1,
    Congrats on your last treatment!!
    ilene
  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited March 2007
    Runny noses and watery eyes oh yes i get them all the time , i have no hair left in my nose so i am guessing thats why it just sort of "falls" out and my eyes and sinuses are bad . Had a sinus headache yesterday and was in bed most of the day . Good thing as the weather here is blustery and cold with a ton of snow , there was a huge traffic pile up just north of us and all the traffic was being diverted through our town . Poor people trying to get home from work .
    I am on my rest and get set week for chemo on Monday so I am trying to get some good food into me lots of protein and calcium . I have some leftover curves shake mix i use for an extra boost .
    Yes I have lost weight and feel like i am shrinking , i am only 5 ft to begin with and when the radiologist measured me i was 4' 11" ..... have lost about 10 lbs , any more i might start looking like a hobbit
    (with no hair )
    Misissy . congrats !!!!
    Joni : A drive to Banff how divine enjoy hope hubby is feeling better
    Caya : I have my first taxotere treatment on Monday I let you know how it goes i am hoping so much that the nausea is not there. So much... the FEC racks your body. Good luck with your last. Ask about hydration if you need it its helped me through this last dose of FEC . Less mouth soreness plus i took magic mouthwash a script from the cancer center . Helps with the bitter tastes and cotton mouth.
    robertin : looks like you are also going on a form of what I am getting next week heres hoping its lighter than AC and FEC
    Everyone else and any one I missed hope if its this week you are "off" chemo like me that y'all get some fun times in and those of you in chemo fog are pampering yourselves and getting lots of sleep .
    The clocks go forward this weekend so spring is coming ........... yippee time to start planning my garden
  • nandy42918
    nandy42918 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2007

    Wow, tx # 2 of AC really was a bearcat to get over, and I am going for # 3 on Monday. I am still feeling really tired and still have a rotten taste in my mouth, had a killer headache for about 10 days. Drinking lots of water with lemon.I would like to hear from those of you taking AC. Were tx 3 & 4 progressively worse or about the same ??

  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited March 2007
    Nandy,
    #3 of a/c was about the same for me as the first two. I have my last one on March 21, and then 12 weekly taxols. I think the cumulative effect is starting to impact me; pretty tired, pretty grumpy.
    Melia
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2007
    Just got a call from my oncologist's secretary. She left a msg so I don't know the details, but...I know the onc will be out of town on the 22--my 4th and last A/C. She said her NP would take care of me but didn't have the schedule yet. She said the secretary would call. She did. And said that they want to schedule me on March 28th--a whole week later!!!!!!! I am panicking. I want this over and done with. No delays!!!!

    I am hoping that this is just a glitch or misunderstanding. I cannot put this off. I have to get this done. The ending date has been in my head for weeks. They cannot do this to me. Ackkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!

    Amera

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