Grade 1 or Grade 2? Nottingham Score of 4.

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Anne2871
Anne2871 Member Posts: 20
edited January 2020 in Just Diagnosed

Hello. So I finally got my medical records, which explain all the details about my diagnoses. 6mm tumor.IDC Er/Pr+, Her2-Stage 1a (0/5 lymph nodes), grade 2. According to the Nottingham Scale, the breakdown is: (2+1+1=4.). After obsessively reading about the Nottingham Score and grade, it sure seems like I'm a grade 1. Plus, it was described as “well differentiated," which is consistent with grade 1. I emailed my doctor about this and she wrote back that she would review with pathology. 🤷🏻♀️ Has this happened to anyone else? I know that the grade isn't necessarily important for treatment, but I still want to know.

Thanks. Stacey.

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  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited January 2020

    Stacey - it's more important to determine if you are ER or PR +/- and HER2 +/- in order for the docs to recommend what treatment. And maybe to get genetic testing based on those answers. Grade can change and may be different after surgery anyway.

  • Anne2871
    Anne2871 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2020

    Thanks! I am Er/Pr+, Her2 negative. I’m just curious about the grade score, which is confusing to me.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2020

    Anne, yes, from my understanding, a '4' Nottingham score should be grade 1.

    When I first read your post, I was wondering if you might have one element of the grade that straddles two scores - in the detail of my pathology report, my nuclear grade was noted as being a '1' in one area of my pathology and '1-2' in another area, so it was counted as '2' in my Nottingham grade, which bumped up my grade from a 1 to a 2. But that wouldn't make sense for you since Nottingham scores of 3, 4 or 5 are all counted as being grade 1.

    Grade actually can impact the Stage, based on the new pathological prognostic staging criteria included as part of the AJCC Breast Cancer Staging update in 2018. In your case, with such a small tumor and being ER+/PR+, you would be Stage IA whether your tumor is grade 1, grade 2 or grade 3, but if your tumor was either PR- or larger, a grade increase could increase the Stage.

  • KathyL624
    KathyL624 Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2020

    My score was the same as yours and they call it Grade 1. In fact, the first hospital, where I had my biopsy, gave me a score of 5 and they still called it Grade 1.

  • Cpeachymom
    Cpeachymom Member Posts: 518
    edited January 2020

    yes, that happened to me. My biopsy was listed as grade 2. When my slides were transferred, new place listed as grade 1. I was the only one who caught the difference. When my doc looked into it, the biopsy place only went by the nuclear grade ( I think that’s what it was, it’s kinda fuzzy now) and not the whole score. You’d think everyone would use the same system, turns out they don’t! I don’t remember what my exact breakdown was for my score, but it was a 5.

  • redhead403
    redhead403 Member Posts: 125
    edited January 2020

    Mine changed a bit from biopsy to mastectomy in a favorable way

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited January 2020

    I had a mistake on my pathology report that listed me a pt1a, when in actuality it was pt1c. I brought it to the attention of the head of BC Surgery and he was going to tell the powers that be about it. Apparently pathology mistakes are not that uncommon.

  • Anne2871
    Anne2871 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2020

    Thank you for the replies...

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