Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited March 2007
    Hi everyone,
    I was in away for a couple of days for some r & r. Trying to catch up on all the posts.
    Welcome Caya and Mrs. Shey.

    FYI: Second opinions are imperative!!!!!!

    On Friday afternoon I got a phone call from my radiologist with some disappointing and concerning news.
    A little history first: I was diagnosed on Nov 27 with IDC, 2.5 cm, grade 3, er+, pr+, Her 2 neu +, and negative nodes.
    MRI showed two other areas of concern on same breast.
    Surgery (lumpectomy) on 12/11. While under,surgeon froze other two areas to try to determine on spot if they were malignant. Surgeon had my orders to give me a mastectomy on spot if they were malignant. Pathologist could not tell, so had to send them to lab.
    When results of pathology report came back on 12/20, other areas of concern came back as benign. One area showed ADH,atypical stuff that they just watch.
    I went to Dana Farber on Jan. 3 for 2nd opinion. They asked for all my info to be sent to them and also all my slides from my pathology reports. Unfortunately the results from their pathology reports were not ready before my appointment. The Oncologist from DF told me she would let me know if their results were different from my hospital's report.

    Started A/C treatment on Jan. 25.
    Got call from my radiologist- not Dana Farber on Friday- two months later.
    Doctor told me that Dana Farber's pathology report differed from their original report.The doctor told me that she got the phone call from Dana Farber last week. Apparently, one of those areas of concern was indeed DCIS. OOPS!!!!
    My hospital ran the results again and this time agreed that Dana Farber was correct.
    What this means to me is that I had two cancers in same breast, different quadrants. If they had known that before, I would have had a mastectomy.
    She now tells me that I should have a mastectomy as soon as my treatments are over because now I have increased my chances of recurrence by 25% if I do not have a mastectomy.

    Questions I will have for Dana Farber: When did they know my results?
    Why wasn't I informed?
    When was my hospital informed?
    Why wasn't I informed?????
    They had more than 3 weeks between when they received my reports- Dec. 30 and my first chemo treatment- Jan 25.
    Usually one had surgery first- then treatments. That option is gone. This kinds of stinks.
    I am very grateful that Dana Farber did catch this mistake. Now at least i can take care of this matter by having a mastectomy. I could have been walking around with a 25% chance of recurrence without even knowing, and all these treatments for not. I just wish they called me. I was the one that went to them for a 2nd opinion. They could have told me the results.
    This confirms the value of second opinions.
    I know this is long, but I guess I am just venting. thanks for listening.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    Wow - Viddie - that stinks that you didn't find out earlier. How incredibly frustrating. But, I guess it's good that you know now so that you can have the surgery. I'm sorry that you had to find out so late. Let us know what DF says in answer to your questions. It seems so strange that they didn't call you directly.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007
    We had a good weekend here. Great weather yesterday in the high 60's. My daughter's big 6th birthday party was on Saturday with all of her school friends. It was the first time I had seem all of the moms from her class. It's a small school so everyone knows. Anyway, no pity looks or stares, everyone was just nice and acted normally. Even the kids. I was pleasantly surprised.

    I started coming down with a cold on Friday have felt very drained all weekend. I was glad I made it through the birthday party. I haven't made it off the couch today except to go upstairs for nap. I'm glad Mizsissy posted the question about chemo and being sick. I've been wondering the same. I guess I have until Friday to try to feel better.

    Here's hoping for a good week for everyone.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    Mrs. Shey - finally got a chance to talk to my mom. She said that they don't do rads on the whole body any more. Only for specific areas, with very few exceptions. The most common side effects that she sees are changes to the skin in the areas treated and overall fatigue. For your skin she said that they give a Rx to all of their patients for a skin creme that helps.

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited March 2007
    Viddie thats awful...and yet at the same time good. I am glad that you went for the second opinion, and even though it took a roundabout route I am also glad that the info made it back to you. It absolutely SUCKS that you have to have another surgery as a result, but at the same time since the questionable area was still "in situ" it does not set your treatment back, or impact on its effectiveness. You have made absolutely the best decisions that you could make given the information you had. Never, EVER question those decisions or even consider the "what if" because you will drive yourself nuts. Move forward, and you will heal.
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007

    Mizsissy, I am betting you were still belle of the ball last night. I'm still LOL about the kitty needle. If only our regular infusions were as cheap and easy as ginger tea. Hope it gives everyone some relief...works best at the first symptoms but I think it helps some at all stages. Me, I'm getting the 7-day Neulasta bone shimmies. Blessings on everyone's week ahead - Skye

  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2007
    Oh my Viddie! I cannot believe that. However, two things that pop into my head: 1) You can still do something about the surgery and thank goodness you went to DF for a second opinion, and 2) You will have this dreaded chemo over with sooner rather than later. You'd still be in the beginning of chemo or waiting for it to start had you gotten the mast first.

    I'd still want to know why the hold-up in telling you though and why you weren't informed directly.

    Isn't is amazing how different hospitals/labs can get different results? My path report from DF was different and now I am not getting Herceptin. Neither of us would've know the difference had we not gone there.

    Amera
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2007

    Day 7, and I'm going to work. Yeah! It's a beautiful day, and I'm excited to go outside. I went for a walk with my husband last night, and it was so hard. I had to hang onto him the whole time, and any kind of inclination would stop me in my tracks. But, today is better. I think I'm going to ask the doctor for a letter so I can have a temporary handicapped tag. It is so hard to park at the university and the walk to my building is so long. My daughter has to take me in for most days or I can't make it. It sure would be nice to be more independent.

  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007
    Hi Everyone,
    Viddie, I am dumbfounded at what you have been through, you sure have a right to vent and this is the place to do it. Thank God they caught the mistake. Mizsissy is right about investigating the holdup in telling you. Robertin, have a great day at work, and why not get a handicapped tag? We certainly fit that definition right now. Jan hope you can feel better soon. As for me, I've been researching the Taxol question and do feel better having looked at study results when given with Herceptin, plus have explored the side effects and it sounds manageable if your nursing staff is alert. So I will be going ahead as planned next week. Off now for weekly blood counts and maybe finally making it to wal-mart, my goal of the week! Blessings - Skye
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007
    Mizsissy & Aladora good luck with chemo today.

    I'm off to a late start today, but hoping to get some work done and clean up the house a little.
  • Aladora
    Aladora Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2007
    Mizsissy, good luck today! I am *pretty* sure that today is your LAST one! Hurray, Yippie and Wahoo!

    Today is #3 of 6 chemos and I am so looking forward to it being over so that I can...well...be half-way done!

    I hope everyone has a good day today, I will probably be afk from this site for a few days but I expect to see lots and lots of GOOD updates here when I get back!

    /hugs to all
    Susan
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2007
    Mizsissy, yippee on the last chemo treatment. Hope Miss Nurse gets her act together--or is off today--or runs off to join the circus before you arrive...Hope you're feeling better cold-wise as well.

    Question: are all of you having that yucky smell sensitivity? I cannot stand it. I have opened the windows in my house (it's only 40* outside) and cannot, cannot get the smells out. Everything is making me feel sick. I cannot launder clothing, I cannot wash dishes, I cannot stand the smell of my cat. Blech! That and the nasty taste thing is doing me in. I finally feel *okay*, not great by any means, but these other things...I've about had it. I want my life back!!! Waaaaaaaaaa!
    Amera
  • Aladora
    Aladora Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2007
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    Question: are all of you having that yucky smell sensitivity? I cannot stand it. I have opened the windows in my house (it's only 40* outside) and cannot, cannot get the smells out. Everything is making me feel sick. I cannot launder clothing, I cannot wash dishes, I cannot stand the smell of my cat. Blech! That and the nasty taste thing is doing me in. I finally feel *okay*, not great by any means, but these other things...I've about had it. I want my life back!!! Waaaaaaaaaa!
    Amera




    Yup, add it to the list of reasons why chemo is similar to morning sickness!

    I found that for the yucky water thing that the only drink I could stand was Tang. Strange, I know, but it actually tastes good for the first couple of days post chemo.

    I'm off to get things done before my chemo at 1pm!

    Susan
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007
    Amera - I don't have the smell sensitivity now, but I had it when I was pregnant. I never found a good solution other than avoiding certain things. No one was allowed to open the door between our garage and house because I could smell the oil in the car engines and it would make me gag.

    Susan - I am so happy that you mentioned Tang! I had completely forgotten that it was one of the few things I could drink when I had bad morning sickness. I bet it will work for me now too! Thanks for the reminder!
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited March 2007
    Hi,
    Susan and Mizsissy, good luck with chemo today.
    Susan- Congratulations with your 1/2 way mark!!
    Skye, How often will you be taking taxol and for how long? When will you be starting herceptin? Will you be getting them together? I will be on the same regime, but I have not investigated it yet. I will not be starting that stuff until April 19. Since you will be ahead of me, I will have the heads up on the s/e et al, thanks to you.

    Robertin, a handicapped tag seems like a very good idea. Universities are so large, and parking lots even larger. We should make it as easy as possible for ourselves.

    Jan,
    You sound like you are feeling better. Are you?
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited March 2007
    I just got the phone call from the oncologist from Dana Farber. She was very nice. She said that the results were not read until the beginning of February, after I started treatment. She was also surprised that it took that long to get the results. She also said that she was playing phone tag with my surgeon for about a week and finally spoke to him on February 14. He told her that he would contact me. That took her off the hook. I can understand that my surgeon wanted to run the tests again before he contacted me. After he got the second (really third) results, they presented it to the Tumor board last Wednesday. My radiologist who is on the tumor board volunteered to call me with the news. Hence I heard on Friday. I guess that explanation makes sense.

    She deferred me to a surgeon. I guess the opinions and decisions is their department. She gave me a few names of surgeons to call from Brigham and Women's. That's who they use. I have an appointment with my surgeon on Wednesday, and then I will definitely go for a second opinion in Boston.

    Amera, Dana Farber rocks! I still do not understand why it took so long to get results, but I am grateful they found the mistake. You are right. I have to keep a positive attitude. The fax of pathology is coming right now. I will write later. Thanks all for listening and keeping me grounded.

    Viddie
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    Viddie - I'm feeling almost normal this week. My next chemo (#3 of 6) is on Friday. So it should be a good week.

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited March 2007
    Good afternoon all - My big excursion today was to the local grocery store, but I called my mother to drive me and help me shlep the groceries. - The whole deal took about 1 and 1/2 hours, and I am pooped!!
    Mizsissy - hope you are getting your chemo and congrats on being done!
    Susan - halfway through, that's great. I will be in the same position this Thursday - I will finish my FEC, then start 3 round of Taxotere on March 29th.
    Jan, I'm also feeling not too badly - this should be a good week.
    Skye - how was your Wal-mart run? funny how these little things are such a big deal now -
    and Amera - man, do I want my life back - I haven't had the smell thing too badly yet, but I hear ya' - I guess eventually we will all have some sense of normalcy
    robertin - I sure hope you get the parking tag, you deserve it
    Viddie - good luck with your treatment - I had to wait for 3 different pathology results until it was all in - better late and correct than never. I am getting Taxotere ( a taxane I believe is similar to Taxol) - but before my Herceptin. Then I will be getting the Herceptin once every 3 weeks for a year.
    That's about it ladies. My 21 year old daughter just got back from her reading week trip (from U of Western Ontario) in the Dominican Republic and is here for a day until she goes back to London, Ontario tomorrow for the rest of the semester, so I am going to spend the rest of my day resting and gabbing with her - these are the precious moments of life...
    Caya
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited March 2007
    Amera, I've had that smell problem from the beginning. I remember the very first week of AC everything smelled like stale shrimp. The smells vary since then but it seems I'm always sniffing something weird. Musty old attic was the last.
    Viddie, I'm starting Taxol next Monday, four doses, one dose every two weeks. I won't be getting Herceptin on the same days as the Taxol, but simultaneously, and then continuing on for a year. I am not looking forward to sitting in the chair for 3 hours but that's the only way to do it. The nurse told me today they give the first infusion more slowly than the others in order to watch for reactions better. It amazes me how the learning curve never ends! - Skye
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited March 2007
    Hi All,
    I have been off the boards for a few days. Had my 3rd a/c on Wed, one more to go, then 12 taxols, weekly. Seems like a lot, but I am so glad that I only have one more a/c. They don't do as much a number on me physically as they do emotionally; they absolutely terrify me. My husband and I went to a dixieland festival for a three day weekend with 8 other fam members, and had a blast. I went to bed right after dinner while they partied into the night, but I kept up with everyone during the day, so that was good. No appetite, and had a hard time ordering in restaurants, but I was just happy to be with people who love me and each other. It was lots of fun.

    Sounds like everyone is doing fairly well. I did find a good aid for mouth sores. In addition to the biotene and magic mouthwash that I use several times a day, if a sore breaks thru, I cut open a vit D and rub the oil on the sore. It heals it up within hours. I haven't asked the onc about it, maybe don't want to know the answer, but the sores got so bad that I couldn't eat, so I figure this is better.

    Melia
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2007
    Well, the nurse called and said that for sure I would get the handicap tag. Especially, she said, since the legs will hurt more during Taxol. That's okay, I can handle pain, there's lots of painpills out there. Just don't give me any more nausea and yucky taste in my mouth. Hey, I'm at the university, bald as an eagle, and so far nobody has fainted yet I did talk to a researcher at Goddard to discuss teleconferences. The poor guy had a hard time mentioning my condition, the uhm.... you know.. uhm... Oh well, he's young, and single. Just be blunt. I can handle it. Feel much better being out of the house.
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2007
    Hey Robertin, glad you are able to get the parking tag. I never used to park on campus because it never got me even close to where I had to go. Those hills in Lawrence are killers.

    How did work go? Did you have enough energy? I sometimes feel like I need work to get out of my own way but cannot imagine working right now.

    And the yuck stomach and taste...I cannot wait for that part to leave.

    Okay, rambling again, off to pick up my girls. Hopefully I don't look as green as I feel.
    Amera
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited March 2007
    I've had my 4 AC txs, and on Friday I had my first Taxotere. Here's my story. It's a little personal so if you're not up to that, keep reading, friends.

    The txs have really done a number on my GI tract. Now very minor hemorrhoids that have been present without any issues for years (from pregnancy days) are all irritated and my bum hurts! There's been a little bleeding but not enough to effect my lab results.

    But it's like the marinade exits my body through my rectum and it's miserable. Like soft puppy poop that burns on the way out.

    I'm trying to be gentle with my hygiene, using Tucks pads but I dread the urge that leads me back to the bathroom. I cringe, my eyes tear up and I just think "Isn't it all enough what's already happened - does my butt have to get involved, too?!?!?!"

    Sorry ladies, just needed to blurt this out - I haven't been able to share it with my daughters or friends.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited March 2007
    Hello All,

    Well I did it, got through the final infusion and I feel as normal as blueberry pie. No aches, no fatigue, no problems. And I got my diploma!!!!

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    Viddie, too bad it took so long to find out. But I hear that it is often better to have chemo before a mastectomy. You just go right ahead with it and now you don't have to do radiation. Good luck to you!!! Less worries in long run.

    xxxooo Mizissy
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited March 2007
    Mizissy I LOVE your diploma - what a neat idea! And we will have to find other activities to fill the day. I go on Wednesday. Is your cold OK?
    Iowacindy - maybe zinc ointment would help?
    I've had a really weepy few days and I'm scared about Wednesday - don't really know why, except they had trouble getting the IV started last time. I'm a bit better today, though.
  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2007
    IowaCindy, I'm glad I'm not the only one that's having that problem! I've found that a stool softener every few days helps a little.

    Mizsissy, what a pretty (and well deserved!) diploma.
    I'm sure all I will get after round 4, is a bill.

    I know every one is looking forward to reaching the end of chemo. I know I sure am!
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited March 2007
    Fabulous, Mizsissy! Congratulations to you for getting through it.

    You can continue to be our leader. Lead us out of the wilderness!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2007

    Dar1 - Hope you are feeling better. I go back on Friday and I will spend each day this week dreading it as it gets closer and closer. Do you know why they had trouble getting the IV started? I have horrible veins and have a little routine that I follow now (at this point I go in telling the nurses how I want it done). Anyway, I drink 1-2 bottles of water before I go in, ask the nurse for 2-3 of those instant warming bags and wrap those all around my hand/wrist for several minutes and then let them start looking for a vein. The combination of being very well hydrated plus having WARM hands seems to make a huge difference.

  • MrsShakur
    MrsShakur Member Posts: 18
    edited March 2007
    Good evening to all my beautiful friends. It's been a while since I've been on here. Been having a bit of the blues, dealing with other family issues.

    l82jem thanks for the update on the rads.

    Mizsissy congrats on your last Chemo session, beautiful diploma.

    To all who has completed there chemo and rad, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

    Sorry to hear so many having such a hard time. Can't remember everyone's name and to much to go back and fourth. My prayers are with you.

    I have a dilema regarding weather I made the right decision on not having Chemo, only because I could not afford that oncotest and my insurance probably won't pay for it makes me a little worried.

    Here's my dx

    biospy by lumpectomy Jan 8th
    Dx Jan 15 with IDC
    back to surgery on Feb 9th, lumpectomy to get clear margins and 3 lymph node removal.

    results in the end:

    IDC
    Tumor size: .07cm
    Histologic grade: 2 of 3
    Nuclear grade: 2 of 3
    Lymph node-neg
    Margins-clear
    ER+80% (positive>5%nuclear staining)
    PR+80% (Positive>5%nuclear staining)
    Her2/new (Fish) Negative; no amplification

    Am I doing the right thing. My doctors said, with my final path report I will have the same results without chemo.

    Thanks

    Mrs. Shay
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited March 2007

    Jan, they use the warming towels here too, but I think my hands got cold again before the nurse came back - I'll be more vocal on Wednesday - thanks for your kind wishes - I am feeling a bit better. There's just not a lot of this that is great, except when it's over!

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