Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Send dollars, not prayers. Just think of how much money could go to research, family support, subsidized treatments, etc. if everyone of the 192,631 people who offered prayers to others with BC gave about $10 to one of those causes. Now imagine if every person outside of this site who said that donated money instead.
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"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." (John 15:18)
In light of the responses I got to my post and the verse above, I believe for the good of all, I will refrain from starting a new thread.
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thisikn...If you want to be helpful, please send money to BC.org rather than sending atheists on this thread scripture sayings.
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Are you a little slow, thisiknow? Perhaps don't understand the English language? You have been told by numerous posters in no uncertain terms that your BS is not wanted, needed or welcome here. Which part of go the eff away are you not understanding, you sanctimonious prig? Who the h@!$ do you think you are?
Stop posting on our thread.
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thisiknow, Like most sanctimonious Christians who ignore Matthew 6, your ego could fill an auditorium. Of course, now that you have made a nuisance of yourself and been rejected, you will now claim to be persecuted.
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What Alice said earlier. Don't go away mad, JUST GO AWAY.
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We can't hate Jesus, because we don't believe that "he" existed.
If you do start a "Believers vs. Non" discussion thread, you won't be hated either. You'll just be very lonely and bored, since no one will be bothered going there to debate anything. We've already had any discussion that you might offer, and we know our minds.
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thisiknow - Wowza. I thought we were done with that silliness here. Start another thread or don't, it makes no difference to any of the atheists here. But please STOP proselytizing. It's unwelcome and obnoxious. There are plenty of religious threads - go to any of them. Just keep your shit to yourself on this thread.
Anyway... I so agree - money would be infinitely more helpful than prayers. Money towards research could save lives. And for friends/family who want to offer prayers, how about a ride to chemo, a casserole, help with housework or anything that would actually do some good.
On a local BC site (on facebook) one poster talked about her surgery, rads, and chemo and then getting a clear MRI. She ended with "Prayer works!!!" Seriously? Your fucking treatment worked. How about thanking the doctors involved in your care instead?
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Looks like I missed all the 'fun'.
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Ooh, my pet peeve, people who claim prayers got them through adversity. Grrr.
One for the proselytizers:
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I am going to work in the phrase "I will fart in your general direction" in every conversation I have from now on.
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Ananda8, That sounds like a great plan! Make sure you remember it if any Jehovah's Witlesses show up on your doorstep.
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Love all of the memes! Every time my religious family & friends credit prayers for a piece of good news, I want to ask them to talk to their god about why I got cancer in the first place. I mean, if he can control the outcome of my imaging, then surely he's the one that gave it to me in the first place, right? I bite my tongue though because it's probably not worth the fight.
Is anybody else kind of dreading Thanksgiving with religious family? I love my family, but I am very much in the minority around them and it just makes holidays stressful.
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lovepugs77,
My family is also very religious. They know I am not but I haven't told them that I am an atheist. I do think they suspect, though. They used to do all sorts of god talk, but that has seem to fade over the years. Perhaps because I don't make the sign of the cross or bow my head in prayer when they say grace, they have realized that their efforts weren't going to change anything. I never confronted them; I am just always myself. I don't talk politics, either.
Prior to Obama and the growth of hard right news programs on radio and television, I don't think we ever thought of talking politics. We certainly don't talk politics now.
I always considered religious talk as a cultural phenomenon of a tribe I wasn't part of. I observed but didn't judge. Put your anthropology hat on and try it. You will relax and that may make them relax and start talking about football.
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"I could deal with our different religions. I could put aside our different political views. And it never mattered to me that our skins were different colors.
But then I saw you wearing a Packers jersey. This can't go on."
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oh man, I’d rather talk about religion or politics than sports! My family is pretty evenly mixed between atheist and liberal religious people, so I don’t have to worry about that (fortunately). My priest-BIL always gives the Thanksgiving dinner blessing but he makes it very generic without a direct reference to god. I appreciate that about him.
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My husband is both wise and hilarious. When he hears that a breast cancer patient had a good outcome after treatment, or that someone lived through a terrible catastrophe that killed other people, and the survivor says that he/she was "saved by Jesus" or "God was looking out for me," he says, "ARE YOU KIDDING? YOUR GOD TRIED TO KILL YOU! HE HAS BAD AIM, AND HE MISSED!"
The notion that there's a puppeteer Up There deciding who gets ALS, who loses a child to disease, who suffers and who gets to live, like some weird roulette game is totally horrifying.
ananda8 YES, I also put on my anthropology hat. I sit back and think about how humans have always had different ways to find inner strength and explain confusing things.
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That reminds me of the Wolf Blitzer interview after that massive tornado touchdown in Oklahoma.
Blitzer: "So do you? Do you thank the lord? For that split-second decision?"
Survivor: "Um, actually, I'm an atheist."
Blitzer, you ass, 24 people died in that event. And you think god was playing favorites?
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Blitzer's mistake was, since he was in the Bible Belt, he assumed everyone he met was an evangelical Christian.
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Alice: I played your fart video. It came on so loud at work and I could not stop it. We were all laughing. Thanks for the best giggle ever.
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TB90, glad it brightened your work day!
I hate hate hate when disaster survivors are interviewed on television and say dumb shit like "Mah Lorrd an' Savyur was lookin' out fer me an' Bubba an' we is jes so blest ta be alive!" Just once, I want a reporter to ask why other people (including children) died. Just once.
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I’m with you there, Alice. “My god sent this horrible disaster, destroying homes and lives, killing people and animals. But I survived, so I love him and thank him even more.” The cognitive dissonance is deafening.
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I remember watching an interview with a woman who was in a car that got stuck on a train track and was hit by a train. Her brother and husband were also in the car and were killed. She talked about how the Lord had protected her and how thankful she was for his grace. I yelled at the TV, “Wow, God must have really hated your husband and brother then!
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Yes, yes yes. Why do the people in these interviews think they were chosen to live while others were chosen to die? What makes them think they were more worthy? It drives me insane. Wanderweg, I always want to ask people like that if their god was protecting them, why didn't he keep their car from getting stuck on the track in the first place.
I also despise the "god needed Billy Bob with him" talk after someone dies, especially when they die young. Its no consolation, and I just want to tell them to STFU.
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lovepugs, I know someone who was 7 yo when her mother died of bc and the nuns told her that “God needed her mom more than she did.” She is close to 70 now and this still haunts her.
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Nuns can be evil! I remember my son's catechism classes ... A lovely nun read the apocalypse to 7-year-old children ... a paragraph about devil and being careful and alert. My son had nightmares for weeks ... Needless to say, I will never send him to a religious school again.
I believe in God, but I don't believe that God is what religions say he is. I agree that the idea of the puppeteer who decides on life and death is appalling
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