diagnosed but 2 more biopsies will be done
Hello, I had right breast core biopsy(calcification) and DCIS was found.
Yesterday i was hoping to find out when my surgery will be.
But instead surgeon ordered another biopsy on right breast(different spot with calcification) ...and also left breast has calcification.
I had biopsy for left breast calcification in 2013 and it was benign at that time.
But i will have another biopsy for left breast calcification.
Scared that i will have 3 places now with cancer. Please let me know who had similar situation and how it turned out.
I hope to hear some positive stories ...thank you
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I had a total of four biopsies. Only the original site was cancerous.
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o thank you dear mitzindbub...this is what i want to hear, because now in my head that i have cancer in both breasts and who knows which stage. i am not very positive person all my life, and today even less...so thank you again!
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I was in the same situation, with multiple biopsies on both sides. Unfortunately they found cancer in both breasts, but I was still diagnosed at stage 1B.
Just because you have it in both breasts does not mean it has spread. If it's only in your breasts, it's still early stage. For me it meant that I had five different kinds of cancer in 7 tumors, which sounds worse than it really was.
I could have had lumpectomies with radiation, but I chose a bilateral mastectomy so I could avoid radiation near my heart and lungs. I still had to have chemo, but that's because one of my cancers was triple negative.
I know it's hard, but try not to worry too much.
Hope all goes well for you.
Trish
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thank you, Trishula, for letting me know your story. How do you feel now?
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I had two areas of calcifications in my right breast. Both were biopsied and both found to be DCIS. Then through the more detailed imaging that I had after the diagnosis (but before surgery), the Radiologist noticed calcs in my left breast. They weren't considered suspicious enough to biopsy when I had the first screening mammo, but once I was diagnosed, it became important to check them. So off I went for another biopsy. Those were benign.
Think of it this way... given that you've already been diagnosed and will be heading into surgery, it's better that anything else going on be found now, so that everything can be taken care of at once, in one surgery and with one treatment plan. What you wouldn't want is to go through all this and then be diagnosed again, with a new breast cancer, in another year or two. That's the reason why good Radiologists and Breast Surgeons are so careful at checking out every possibility of cancer before the patient heads into surgery. Once you've been diagnosed, calcifications that are only a little bit concerning and that otherwise might have been considered for watching, are instead referred for a biopsy. Best to have the full picture of what's going on now, before the surgeon is in the operating room.
Good luck with these biopsies. Hopefully they are benign.
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thank you Beesie. Yes i am trying to think it this way...i was not prepared for that, don't know much yet...reading posts here and learning. Today this site keeps me sane.
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So today i called and they only so far have appt. for biopsies for me for 10/25. Doctor ordered to make it this week, but they did not find the slot yet...if they find it they will call me. But i am planning to call every day to remind and question them.
Oh...
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marinochka, I wish you the very best of luck and sending good vibes your way. Believe me when I tell you I was very, very scared, but what Beesie says is so true - I am so grateful that my doctors looked into everything very carefully to be sure that they were giving be the right treatment for my situation. With me, the doctors thought my primary site was actually a lymph node - sounds funny but it was in my axilla, which is very very rare - I have high breast tissue so it was actually in my armpit. When they first found it, they were not sure it was breast tissue which is what turned out to happen. They thought I was likely to have massive lymph node and that they would find a large tumor in the left breast. They did find a mass but the radiologist didn't think it would be anything and it wasn't!
I am so glad they took so many extra steps to investigate my strange case. Things were not adding up and I am so glad they gave me those additional biopsies because that was what took me from possible Stage III to Stage 1 and allowed me to bypass chemo.
I love my medical team for being so cautious and attentive.
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thank you mitziandbubba for your wishes and good vibes.
yes, it is not simple i can see to find what is really going on.
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Dear all, got more delays today... please let me know if this is not a big deal...
i am not talking about emotional state, this is bad for that...but i am scared of delays in terms of what will be developing in my breasts.
So my 2 biopsies will be on 11/25. And results will be after that ...i don't know ...in 3-5 days(this is usually how it is, i did not ask now).
BUT doctor will be away, and the earliest appt. i will have with him: dec 13.
And, no, i can not be seen by another doctor...or i should start "transition" ...and i will not be able to get back to this surgeon...and also i don't know at this point if doctors(i got a few names from my friends) do have appt. available much earlier than dec.13
First i was hysterical...I don't know yet what they will find with those 2 biopsies ...and when my surgery will happen if my appt. with the doctor only on dec 13.
I am trying to calm myself down...
what do you think about this situation ? is it really bad delay? thank you
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The delay is not bad medically.
Your diagnosis is DCIS, and the additional areas of concern are both sites with calcifications, which, if cancer, usually (but admittedly not always) means DCIS. DCIS is a pre-invasive condition. While removing DCIS cells before they develop into invasive cancer (which might never happen or might take years) is almost always recommended (although there are some "watchful waiting" trials underway with DCIS), DCIS is not a medical emergency. With DCIS there is no urgent need to get into surgery.
Mentally, the extra waiting time is brutal. Since you already have a DCIS diagnosis and the only question about surgery is how extensive the surgery will be, can you request that the surgeon's office schedule you for surgery, and then the type of surgery will be determined based on these biopsies? And if you are considering a mastectomy or bilateral mastectomy if the biopsy results are positive, and if with a MX or BMX you are considering reconstruction, can you get in to see a Plastic Surgeon while you are waiting for the biopsy and results? I think there are ways you can use this time to get things done that cut down on the waiting time after your biopsy results are in.
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Beesie, thank you so much!
I am not sure about scheduling a surgery...something to think about.
I think i can handle emotional state...day by day...it would be very difficult for me to find out results of those 2 biopsies...they said i can find it out earlier than my doctor appt.
I was very scared medically ..that i am delayed ...and it grows...
thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have DCIS, invasive. Tumor on left removed, 2 lymph nodes removed all clear. However 2 more test pending, the Her2, and Genomic. So much info to wrap your head around! Tumor was 20mm
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Cyidleman, welcome to BCO! Are you saying you have both DCIS and invasive cancer (IDC)?
Since most invasive cancer develops from DCIS, this is quite common - I think about 80% of patients with IDC also have DCIS.
The important difference versus those who have only DCIS (marinochka's diagnosis, at this point) is that pure DCIS is non-invasive and is always Stage 0. Usually HER2 testing is not done on DCIS, because it's unclear if and how HER2 status impacts DCIS, and because there is no treatment difference between HER2+ and HER2- DCIS. Genomic testing is also usually not done on DCIS, although there is a different version of the Oncotype test specifically for DCIS that may be used in situations where a patient who's had a lumpectomy for DCIS is considering whether or not radiation is required. The invasive cancer Oncotype test is different, and is used to help with the chemo decision. Chemo is never required for Stage 0 DCIS.
Hope all your results are favorable
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thank you for all explanations. Very important to know and understand.
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marinochka - I answered on the other thread you started.
Are you in the US? If so, those tests are YOUR records and you are entitled to have copies. You can call the hospital/clinic that did the tests, figure out what you need to order copies and go pick them up. Or many places now have on line 'portals' and the results are downloaded to your "my chart" account. If your doc is out of town, there should still be someone in his office that can authorize the download.
I never leave after any test without arranging to get a CD copy of the films and confirming where I can get a copy of the paper report.
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Welcome, Cyidleman5! We're glad you've joined our community here, but we're so sorry for what brings you here. We hope you find support here, please keep us posted on what you learn when those results come back!
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I have invasive DCIS, tumor was 20mm. My Her2 test just came back negative. Looks like the genomic test takes 2 weeks. I know this test is probably about hormone numbers. Can anyone explain
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Cyidleman, good news that your cancer is HER2-!
Do you have a copy of your pathology report? If not, you should request a copy. As you move forward and see different doctors, it's always good to have copies of all the reports for your records. You also may want to talk to your surgeon or Oncologist about your diagnosis. It seems that someone miscommunicated. DCIS is always non-invasive. As such, there is no such thing as invasive DCIS. DCIS can evolve to become an invasive cancer but when this happens, the diagnosis is no longer DCIS but becomes IDC.
- "DCIS is noninvasive, meaning it hasn't spread out of the milk duct and has a low risk of becoming invasive." https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dcis/symptoms-causes/syc-20371889
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- "Ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS) means the cells that line the milk ducts of the breast have become cancer, but they have not spread into surrounding breast tissue. DCIS is considered non-invasive or pre-invasive breast cancer. DCIS can't spread outside the breast, but it still needs to be treated because it can sometimes go on to become invasive breast cancer (which can spread)." https://www.cancer.org/cancer/breast-cancer/treatment/treatment-of-breast-cancer-by-stage/treatment-of-ductal-carcinoma-in-situ-dcis.html
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The genomic test you are referring to is probably the Oncotype DX test, which is the most common genomic test in use (but not the only one).
"If you've been recently diagnosed with early stage, estrogen receptor-positive (ER+), HER2-negative (HER2-) breast cancer, the Oncotype DX Breast Recurrence Score test can help you and your doctor understand what treatment options are right for you—including whether you're likely to benefit from chemotherapy.
The Breast Recurrence Score test looks at several cancer-related genes in your tumour tissue. Because every woman's tumour is unique, understanding the biology of your specific tumour will help you and your doctor make more confident decisions about your care." https://www.oncotypeiq.com/en-CA/breast-cancer/patients-and-caregivers/stage-i-iiia-invasive/about-the-test
Here is some information about the Oncotype test that on the breastcancer.org site: https://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/oncotype-dx-recurrence-score-predicts-survival
There are many discussion threads discussing the Oncotype score on this board, most in the Just Diagnosed or Chemo forums. Do asearch and I'm sure you will find some that help you and where you can ask questions.
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