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I'm in group therapy for weight loss and one of the members mentioned her guilt about her son that was in Iraq only getting shot not dying. She goes to every funeral (adding enormous stress to her life) that she can. As she was talking - I realized that I'm experiencing a similiar guilt - because though my dx was invasive - I got off easy - lumpectomy, rads and tamoxifen. And then because I was a mammosite protocal person even rads were easier - 5 days 2 times a day vs 6 - 7 weeks. So now as I read posts or communicate with the women that were dx in December I find myself feeling guilty that it was 'so easy' (compared to mastectomy rads, and chemo) and still being in such a cancer mode mentally. I guess I don't really have a question other than that statement. Thanks

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Kelly, I do understand. I was dx in Nov 05 with IDC although mine was invasive, 3 out of 11 nodes, Stage 2B. I had a lumpectomy and breast reduction. My treatments were more aggressive I had the full chemo, full rads and now on Tamox. But I still did not have a mascectomy. I remember first reading the boards and I felt the same as you, kinda guilty. I've gotten over that. None of us asked for bc and we sure didn't specify what kind we wanted. I am apt to end up having a mascectomy later on, who knows? No matter how aggressive anybodys bc was we all heard those dreaded words and live in fear. I say you were lucky not to have chemo & full rads but that doesn't mean you didn't have bc just like all of us on here. You & I didn't go through the trauma of losing our breasts but we still had cancer. I was just as terrified as anybody on these boards at my dx and I'm sure you were too. And it's even crossed my mind that maybe I should have had a masc. so perhaps I would have less chance of reoccurence. But I've come to terms with that and I'm ok with it. Don't let yourself feel guilty anymore.

    cheri
  • VickiTN
    VickiTN Member Posts: 361
    edited March 2007
    Kelly,
    I can completely relate. I was diagnosed with IDC - had lumpectomy, rad and now on Tamox....but, because I was able to opt out of chemo and the mastectomy, I feel that same guilt you describe. And, I have been struggling with it, too.

    But, as cheri stated, just because our treatment plan was not the same as someone else's does not mean that we don't share the same level of fear. Cancer is cancer.... and you, I and anyone else diagnosed with cancer have every right to feel afraid without the added pressure of thinking that our feelings aren't valid - just because our journey "so far" hasn't been as difficult someone else's.

    I have to keep reminding myself of this, too...

    hugs,
    vicki
  • agilepwdmn
    agilepwdmn Member Posts: 12
    edited March 2007
    Kelly - I think you have normal feelings. I had DCIS treated with a bilat mast and radiation. I feel like I got a free pass compared to all of the women - some my close friends - who endured chemo or have to struggle with the side effects of Tamox or herceptin.

    I remind myself to celebrate my free pass and try to make a difference in the fight against BC. I participate in some fund raising events.

    You had been fighting a big battle. Don't make it bigger than you need to!

    Best wishes - sandy
  • NaomiS
    NaomiS Member Posts: 36
    edited March 2007
    It's funny that some women feel that they may have had it a little easier because they didn't have a mastectomy. I feel like Sandy feels; I had a bilat mast and feel so lucky that I didn't need chemo.
    I think I just needed to give myself permission to grieve for my pre-cancer self; the carefree, didn't worry a lot, un-scarred self. If I told myself that someone else had, or has it, a lot worse, I wasn't letting myself mourn that loss of innocence, or whatever it is we go through.
    It's nice to know that our feelings aren't uncommon. As I read the responses to Kelly's post, I gleaned something comforting from everyone of them.
    Good thread, Kelly - thanks
  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2007

    Hi girls - BC is BC is BC!!! Our journey may be different, but they belong to us. It is not a competition. It stinks no matter what. I happen to be one of the gals who had the whole 9 yards of treatment - double mastectomy, chemo, rads, ooph, Arimidex. Yes, there are days that I am jealous of gals who did not have such treatments but then I am greatful that they did not have to endure it all. My journey does not dimish someone elses. As my dd who is turning 9 said, one day there will be a cure (or even better prevention) and no one else will have to journey through BC. Till then, we need to honor each other and honor our own feelings. There is no right or wrong with feelings, although some do make us feel better!!! Women, especially mothers have enough guilt, please don't make yourself feel guilty because you had it 'easy" through treatment. Okay its time for me to get off my soapbox. karen in denver

  • yowyow
    yowyow Member Posts: 69
    edited March 2007
    Karen, I so agree, I had lumpectomy, then partial mast' then bilat' mast all within 14 days (due to no clear margins)
    I had 6 FEC chemo's, am triple neg.

    We are all in the same boat, we have had or have BC, Don't ever feel your journey has been easier than ours. Yes you are lucky you caught it early, but mentally we are all equal, IT SUX,

    gota stick together, no matter what our path' says !!!!

  • badboob67
    badboob67 Member Posts: 2,780
    edited March 2007
    I also feel guilt--I had a mastectomy and am living with METS. I have been so fortunate that hormone therapy is keeping me stable. I feel badly when I hear about women whose diagnosis was "better" than mine having to go through so much with chemo and it not having a good effect on the cancer.

    I truly am always happy to hear good news here on the boards. Sure, sometimes I DO get a little jealous and wish I was the one with the good news. More often hearing about others' triumphs over this awful disease gives me encouragement and hope. If I had not read the numerous threads about women whose METS have left them, I would not even know NED was possible!

    Please try not to feel guilty! You have every right to be appreciative that you have been spared things like a more difficult diagnosis/prognosis or treatment plan!!

    I read a post here by a women that was angry she had been through so much and found out it wasn't cancer. You know what? I could understand her, too...it did NOT make me angry at her. It made me angry at this stupid disease that is so confusing and sneaky. It made me angry that there is no one thing that we know will work against breast cancer like an antibiotic will work against strep throat.

    Please do post positive things when you have something to share! You cannot know how a single statement might have a huge impact on someone--offering them hope and reassurance.
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited March 2007

    I've had 3 of 4 AC, and sometimes I feel "guilty" that I'm not getting 6 treatements (or more) as some women do. Or that I was diagnosed stage 1 rather than 2,3 etc. But I think what any diagnosis does is rip away our complacency, as many have said. Yes, bad things happen and they can happen to me!

  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited March 2007
    We (women in general) need to get over guilt. It serves no purpose and is unwarranted in any case.

    I had a lumpectomy that you can't tell and have not had chemo. Treatment has been relatively easy and not many side effects. I don't feel guilty that others have had it harder - feel bad for them but not guilty. I woudn't feel guilty if someone else had to have a root canal, BC treatments are the same.

    Every woman with cancer (regardless of stage or tx) has a right to bitch and moan - this sucks. There's really no benefit to comparing your battle to anyone else's, they are all unique and are all hard, no matter how easy they look to the outsider.
  • marshakb
    marshakb Member Posts: 1,664
    edited March 2007

    Oh Kelly honey and all the rest who have a "guilt" feeling for getting off supposedly easy, you need to understand that the gals here, like me, right mastecomy and chemo, are thrilled when we hear one of our sisters didn't have to do what we are. Makes me smile every time I read a post like that. I have never been jealous of someone else's "road to hoe" and have never felt guilt that I didn't get the Mets report. I pray for those gals as I do the ones who "just had a lump and rads". There is no "just" in the BC world! I miss you Kelly, we went in different directions since our Dec dx but I think of you often! Love and hugs, Marsha

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