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berries
berries Member Posts: 277

I am almost three weeks out from my mastectomy where they surprisingly discovered lymph node involvement (MRI and US were both clear before surgery). I met with my BS and MO to go over the pathology and 4/4 SLN were effected with macro and micrometastisis, which is devastating and brought me into a dark, dark place. My BS didn't do a frozen section and take any more LN, so I have no idea how many are truly impacted. I wish he would have discussed this with me before. Ugh.

Anyhow, today I have a CT and bone scan and I am absolutely terrified. I have had so much anxiety leading up to this day and now I am debating canceling it all together. Both my MO said it were OK if I skipped it and that I was on the "cusp" of needed it done. They also said I could get it done after chemo if it would make me feel better. I'm just at a loss of what to do.

I know on one hand if they're clear, I would have so much strength to fight the rest of the way, but I do NOT want to get any bad news... I would rather know later after chemo than have my life completely change yet again right now.

What do I do? What would you do? Honestly don't think I can make it through these scans today....

thanks for listening x

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  • edj3
    edj3 Member Posts: 2,076
    edited October 2019

    I know how I'm wired. I would absolutely need to know either way, no more surprises.

    But that's me, not you. So what I say to you is to give yourself whatever you need right this second to be OK with where you are. It's not like you can never do these scans again, right?

    If the fear and debilitating anxiety are crippling you today because of the scans, then find a way to be OK with future uncertainty.


  • Del13
    Del13 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2019

    vmb, will not doing the scan ease your anxiety? If so put it off, do what is best for you, I didn’t have the choice, chemo first, my mind goes crazy sometimes thinking about all the what if’s, it’s ok, hugs lady, you are stronger than your anxiety says,, you have got this!!!

  • berries
    berries Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2019

    thank you so much Maggie! It would make me less anxious to not have to go through with it. I know that's going to just be somewhat short-lived relief though. I'm just absolutely terrified... I don't know how people got through their scans, honestly. I feel so weak.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited October 2019

    Is there a downside to delaying it until after chemo? Would that change any decisions in the near term? If it's information that's important to know *now*, then put your big girl panties on and get the tests done. If your treatment plan is locked in, then there's no reason to delay, although keep in mind you'll have to face the anxiety again on down the line. (My mantra is "move toward anxiety"--that's the only way to get it behind you.)

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited October 2019

    Since your post was dated yesterday I’m not sure what you decided about the scans. I completely understand your fear and anxiety. In fact we all do. I was blessed to have the early stage BC that didn’t require scans to be done. I am the poster child for worrying so I would be inhaling Valium chewables to get me through them and the never ending wait that comes after. I don’t wait well either.

    Having said that I had a surprise too after the path report came back showing a micromet in my SN. I was devastated; my BS was surprised. Wow that’s comforting. Not.

    My BS said it would get me chemo. Not his call. My MO ordered the Oncotype test. My score came back@11 so no chemo. 33 rounds of radiation instead. So you never know.

    It’s your decision. There are no right or wrong answers it’s whatever you can handle. Don’t let anyone make you feel guilty about your choice.

    BC is an insidious disease replete with pain and anxiety. Maybe take an anti-anxiety med? No crime in that at all. A lot of us have and do.

    Keep the faith and keep us posted.

    Diane

  • Del13
    Del13 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2019

    vmb, Hugs, may you find comfort and peace, with whatever you decide,,

  • cathy67
    cathy67 Member Posts: 514
    edited October 2019

    HI vmb,

    I am facing the same now!!! I am also very very scared of the bone scan. I got an appointment which is tomorrow with MO, that will be my first meet with him, someone just cancelled and then I got the spot. It is already very fast here.

    I am also thinking to ask him, if the near term treatment is not influenced by the bone scan, I would prefer delay it to sometime in the future.

    As for the sentinel lymph nodes, we are clinically negative which means our armpit lymph nodes checkups are negative. I am also confused with this, are sentinel lymph nodes part of the nodes that checked by ultrasound? SLN biopsy is the standard surgery procedure, then with biopsy result, go to next step. For me, I already know it is radiotherapy. Of course, will have chemo.

    Please back here to to share what you did today, I also need around one week to be comfortable with any new stuff after appointment.

    Hugs!!!

  • cathy67
    cathy67 Member Posts: 514
    edited October 2019

    Hi edwards750,

    My one positive 3mm macromet SLN also made me crazy!! It was a big shock, cause all the doctors said the area is so small, even the surgeon asked, how did I find it, I said it is routine. Now I know, it is hidden so ultrasound can only catch part of it, actually it is more than twice the size that pre-surgery exam shows.

    My 3mm deposit node kicks me out of the funded oncotype dx, I am thinking I'd better accept chemo without trying oncotype, cause right now it is grade 2, though ER 8 out 8 positive, and Her2 0/3.

    Thanks for the sharing.

  • Brilee76
    Brilee76 Member Posts: 227
    edited October 2019

    I found a lump in my breast on April 20th, 2019. I had my very first mammogram on May 9th, 2019. From that moment forward it felt like I was caught in rushing flood waters that were sweeping me away. I was called back the very same day and asked to come in for an ultrasound on May 10th. I was told by the radiologist on that day that she was 99.9% sure that I had breast cancer. I had an ultrasound guided biopsy on May 14th. On May 16th I was told that I had invasive lobular carcinoma. Things get blurry after that due to the shear number of appointments but to sum it up I saw an oncologist. She ordered an MRI and put me on monthly Lupron shots and Tamoxifen. The MRI showed a second spot in my breast and one in my arm pit that looked suspicious so I had two more biopsies on those two areas. I REALLY didn't want to do that second set of biopsies. So much so that the ultrasound tech and radiologist put down their equipment and told me I didn't have to do it because I was starting to cry. I knew that those results would effect decisions about my treatment so I reluctantly cooperated. Both of those biopsies came back negative! Since my mom just had breast cancer last year and our genetic testing came back with a mutation on our BRCA2 gene (not the known mutation but one that has not been studied yet) I decided to have a bilateral mastectomy and hysterectomy with oophrectomy. On August 6th I had my bilateral mastectomy surgery and 3 lymph nodes removed. We were sure that they would come back negative but 1 of the 3 came back positive so rather than having my hysterectomy this month I'm doing 4 rounds of chemo. No part of what I've been going through hasn't been scary for me. I've felt overwhelmed since day 1 and I've had days when I just didn't want to get out of bed but I talk with God every morning and every morning he gives me the strength to go to that appointment, go for that treatment, go to work and be there for my family and pets. I honestly look back sometimes and am amazed at how gracefully I've come through this so far. I'm off of the Tamoxifen now but still on the Lupron shots. I have physical therapy twice a week. I still have to have a hysterectomy and will go on Letrozole when my chemo is over or possibly after my hysterectomy. My oncologist has also said I'll have to have infusions for my bones. I see my plastic surgeon on Monday and I know I'll have to have more procedures done to fix issues there as well. Sometimes, I'm afraid I'll wear down as this has been going on for nearly 6 months now and has months or possibly years to continue. I don't know what tomorrow holds but I'm fighting to make sure tomorrow comes for many more years so I can be there for my kids and grand kids. I pray for all of you ladies because I know how difficult this is physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. Just know that no matter what choices you make you're not alone. We're all here on these forums because of one thing we have in common and someone is always here sharing experiences and knowledge that helps the rest of us continue on day to day.

  • cathy67
    cathy67 Member Posts: 514
    edited October 2019

    Hi Brilee76,

    Thanks for sharing!!!

    And your situation is quite similar as mine, but mine is 2.1cm and 1/1 positive. It seems you only had four rounds of chemo, then I guess mine will also be four rounds. My government insurance does not cover oncotype dx, though technically I am eligible for the test. I guess you are quite young, cause you said that was your first mammogram. I will meet my MO tomorrow, first appointment, hopefully not too bad news.

    Have you even done bone scan? I am very very scared of that.

  • Brilee76
    Brilee76 Member Posts: 227
    edited October 2019

    I haven't done a bone scan but my mom did. She has infusions twice a year because the Letrozole has put her in first stage osteoporosis. She said it wasn't as bad as it sounded. :) I'm sure I'll have to have one eventually since my oncologist has already said I'll be on the same infusions. I'm 43 by the way.

  • berries
    berries Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2019

    I mustered up the courage to get the scans done (thank you, Ativan and Lexapro)....

    CT SCAN WAS CLEAR!!!!!! Now I wait for bone scan results.

    Thanks ladies for your encouragement!

  • cathy67
    cathy67 Member Posts: 514
    edited October 2019
  • Del13
    Del13 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2019

    Vmb,Yes!!! I knew you could do this!!! My brain is tired from sending you them positives all the way from Ky!!!!

  • berries
    berries Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2019

    You are the BEST!!! Now we await the bone scan results, so keep the positive vibes coming.... hehe.... I feel them! XO

  • edj3
    edj3 Member Posts: 2,076
    edited October 2019

    Oh vmb, I am so so happy for you--sending you <3<3<3

  • Del13
    Del13 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2019

    Vmb, yes girl, I’m beaming!!! to all of y’all in this group,,, this makes me alive,happy,useful. A Very special Friday Lady (comes in Every Friday to get hair fixed) yes small town we will still have this, I’m down to one now and can’t even do her hair, because I can’t focus!!! Lol anyway she said sometimes in life all you can do is send positive vibes, pray, so yes I got y’all covered, and we will face this together,

  • berries
    berries Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2019

    Bone scan came back clear, too!!! I can't believe I actually went through with it after picking up the phone numerous times to cancel these scans. So relieved. Thank you everyone for your well wishes!!!!! Xo

  • edj3
    edj3 Member Posts: 2,076
    edited October 2019
  • Del13
    Del13 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2019

    Vmb 👍 so happy for you!!! You got this,,

  • berries
    berries Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2019

    Thank you! you ladies are the best!!!

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited October 2019

    Good job getting the scans. I didn't do a biopsy before my chemo and it meant that they did not do radiation after my 1st go round. Less than 3 years later I was dealing with a recurrence that maybe I could have skipped if I had been brave enough to get all the information up front. So happy for you...you did the right thing!

  • berries
    berries Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2019

    7of9 what you are doing now is so brave, you got this!! <3

  • Del13
    Del13 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2019

    7of9 I agree,you are very brave, strong, hugs lady,, just not fair you have to travel this road again!! Sending positive vibes!! You got this!!

  • cathy67
    cathy67 Member Posts: 514
    edited October 2019

    Hi vmb,

    Great news!

    I also just back from MO, he ordered CT Scan for me, no bone scan. But he said, he won't worry about that, cause I only have 2 percent to be positive, hopefully I am not in that small group.


  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited October 2019

    Because of one of my other cancers, I have to get scanned two to three times a year. They're not that big a deal; I look at them as routine maintenance.

  • MBPooch
    MBPooch Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2019

    Amazing news vmb, so relieved for you!

  • 2019whatayear
    2019whatayear Member Posts: 767
    edited October 2019

    Great news VMB!! I had CT, Bone Scan, MRI of the pelvis after bone scan showed a tiny spot- was a bony island and a transvag UT prior to starting chemo. Scanxiety is in the ball park of almost as bad as A/C chemo IMO. On the plus side I had all good results- and if I hadn't had the scans I would be spending time worrying there was cancer there somewhere. I had a BMX - 1 sent. node had cancer I had a node dissection other 8 nodes no cancer.

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