Possible IBC

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MonarchWalker79
MonarchWalker79 Member Posts: 5
edited October 2019 in Not Diagnosed But Worried

I’m worried about a possible inflammatory breast cancer diagnosis. I noticed about a week and a half ago that my left breast was significantly larger than my right. I probably should have noticed earlier but I’m busy and I guess I don’t pay that much attention. I think it’s been a bit tender for about a month or so but I hadn’t really worried about it until I noticed the size difference. Then I felt it and realized that there was what I thought was a lump. My breasts have been rather saggy since I lost a lot of weight a few years ago so the lump was very easy to see and feel. I also was able to express a bit of yellowish discharge from my nipple (I guess my years of breastfeeding made me think to try) The day was a Thursday but because of my schedule I couldn’t get in to my doctor that week. I ended up going to our clinics after hours service on Saturday. To me it reminded me of when I had mastitis when I was breastfeeding my youngest son but that was 7 years ago so how’ve could I have a breast infection now!?!

The doctor at the clinic listened and took a look and scared me by right away talking about the potential for it to be cancer. I hadn’t even really considered that possibility until that moment. She gave me a prescription in case it was a breast infection but she also sent me for a mammogram and an ultrasound. After a few days of waiting I went for those tests and a few more days of waiting I was called my my doctors office to discuss the results. The prescription did noting by the way. In the meantime. My breast was more tender. Possibly larger and I now have a slightly reddish spot developing near the nipple. My doctor tried to put me at eastbound because the reports didn’t find any mass just some thickening of the skin. The report actually uses the term possible inflammatory breast disease. I’m not sure if that’s different then IBC but when I looks at my symptoms they look pretty similar. I am being sent for a biopsy but my doctor seemed to think there was nothing to worry about about but she still had no answers for me.

Does this sound like it could be IBC to you?

Allison

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  • Oceanlove25
    Oceanlove25 Member Posts: 28
    edited September 2019

    Hi Monarchwalker79,

    I am sort of in a similar boat as you. I was diagnosed in Feb with IDC, had a lumpectomy, radiation for 4 weeks and then hormone femura for the next 5 years. In July my breast was pink and tender and I thought it was just healing. I saw my Oncologist because I thought I had found another lump in my other armpit. He was more worried about the pink breast and put me on Keflex. I saw him on a Thursday and over the weekend Sunday it got worse. I called on Monday and he said go straight to the ER, you need IV antibiotics. They admitted me and I spent 5 days there. Everyone was thinking cellulitis. The antibiotics helped some and they kept me on them for 2 more rounds of 2 weeks. The pink was still coming and going and the swelling and itching. They stopped the antibiotics and the Onc and infectious disease dr. both felt a biopsy was warranted. So they sent me back to my surgeon. He looked at it and didn't think it was IBC. He is not a breast surgeon but a general surgeon. He also did not catch my lymphedema when I pointed it out and questioned if I had it. He said no and it turned out I was stage 1. Anyhow I digress. He said he would do the biopsy. I also had a skin lesion that appeared after the surgery and it has not healed in the last 6 months so he is taking that out too.
    He said, "Now they want me to do this biopsy to rule out Inflammatory breast cancer but I've seen some and don't think you have it". So I'm thinking they would just numb the area and do a punch biopsy. But I come to find out they knock me out and he's doing an excisional biopsy. He said he would go in deep to take the biopsy. So that happens this Tuesday the 24. I'm still itching and the nipple retracts if you grab around the areoli.

    So I have many of the same feelings as you do. Are you going to a breast clinic? I've found that doing that seems for me to have everything and everyone in the same place and that's what they deal with.
    Have you had the biopsy yet? Please post and let us know what happens. Thinking of you and sending positive thoughts and hugs!

    Patty

  • MonarchWalker79
    MonarchWalker79 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2019

    I hope things go well for you tomorrow Patty and you get some answers. I’m still waiting. Since the mammogram and ultrasound seemed to rule out a mass that has made my biopsy a lower priority. It seems like they are ignoring the possible indications of IBC. My biopsy is scheduled for October 9th so I still have awhile to wait. It’s scheduled with a beast surgeon. We don’t have a centre here locally but I hear good things about this doctor.

    I’m feeling slightly less worried in some ways since my original post. My breast has not seemed to change rapidly like I thought it was at first. I have a raised red spot near my nipple but it doesn’t seem to be growing. The thickened area around my nipple is pulling my nipple a bit inward and sideways. I’m not sure what to think of that. 🤷♀️

    I found one post that sounded quite similar to my symptoms that turned out to be an unusual form of mastitis. Those kinds of posts are why I come here I think. So I can find a story like mine that isn’t Cancer.

    I’ll keep you posted about how my biopsy turns out. I’ll be thinking about you tomorrow. Please let me know how it goes.

  • Oceanlove25
    Oceanlove25 Member Posts: 28
    edited September 2019

    Hi Allison,,
    Thanks for your kind words. I don't have to be there till 10:15 so after sleeping on and off,..here I am. I know Oct. 9th seems like a long way off but I pray it goes quickly. One thing that helped me get through surgery, radiation, etc...was I started doing puzzles. It's amazing what it does..you literally get lost in the puzzle and don't think about everything else. I know that the only way I'm getting this biopsy is that my Onc and infectious disease specialist said that was the next step. Otherwise my BC is doing it more to humor everyone. Don't get me wrong, he's a good surgeon but since he missed my lymphedema...I can't help but wonder about this. My pink in the breast seems to come and go and I too have a raised red spot on my nipple. It's just there. Most of my thinkness is on the bottom half underneath.
    I'm so glad you're seeing a breast surgeon. You can't get any better than that. My surgeon, although a general; surgeon works with the breast clinic and is required to do a large number of brreast surgery to be affiliated with them.
    I too agree about this sight. I'm just trying to educate myself as much as I can. The more I know the better prepared I am.
    I will let you know how it goes. Please keep me posted on how it goes for you and Please know I'm here if you just need to walk, vent or whatever.
    Hang in there!

    Patty

  • MonarchWalker79
    MonarchWalker79 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2019

    hopefully you made out ok yesterday with your biopsy. Now I guess you just wait for results. Hopefully that doesn’t take too long.

    I have a pretty busy life so that tends to keep me hopping. I’m a fully time teacher by day so there isn’t much time during the day to think about myself. After work I’m usually busy running one of my three kids to some activity or other. It’s a busy life but it’s great for keeping me from dwelling too much on the unknown. I don’t want to imagine what life would be like for my husband and kids if I did get a diagnosis of IBC... I don’t want to imagine but yet I still do 🤦♀️. I think I’m going to call my doctor tomorrow and see if there is some way to move my date up for the biopsy up somehow. I’m in Canada so as great at universal healthcare is. It also has it’s downfalls. The process tends to be a bit slow and I have few options.

    Hope things are ok with you


  • Oceanlove25
    Oceanlove25 Member Posts: 28
    edited October 2019

    Hi Allison,

    Did you call your dr. to move up the biopsy? I know the waiting is the most difficult. I guess because of what's unknown. Please let me know where you're at with everything.
    Now to update you on me. I had the biopsy Sept 22. He did an incisional biopsy to the right of the nipple. I also had a skin lesion on the opposite side of the breast (same BC breast) and he took a chunk of that. The incisional one which was done to rule out IBC came back benign. It was benign with some fibrosis and inflammation. The skin lesion came back malignant but for invasive squamous cell carcinoma.
    In researching it seems that this kind of cancer is rare and mostly appears in older woman. I just got the results yesterday and saw the surgeon. It was a relatively small lesion 1.3 x 0.4 x 0.4 cm. It has spread to the margin so he has to go back in and take more out. He doesn't think I need any other treatment, and said they would watch me close.
    I really would have just done a mx to get rid of it all but the surgeon (who is a great guy and good) is old school and gave me every reason why not to do the mx. As he said he talked me out of it. I said, yes for the second time.
    A lot of what he said was true and included all the risks. I had really hoped to get a reduction in all this but I think I have to come to terms with that not happening.
    I see my oncologist first thing Monday and will feel better after that. From what I've read this often reoccurs and chemo is often warranted.
    It just amazes me that I am diagnosed with two cancers in 7 months! Ugh.
    As for you...try not to think IBC. I felt sure that's what mine was and it turned out to be from the radiation. I will keep you in my prayers.
    So they will call me today to schedule for next week.
    I have a dear friend in Montreal so I understand a bit of your medical system. I;m not good at waiting either.
    Let me know how it goes!

    Hugs,

    Patty

  • MonarchWalker79
    MonarchWalker79 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2019

    I’m sorry to hear about the new cancer that they found. It sounds like it’s a better alternative than what you had been worried about but it’s still cancer either way. Hopefully your visit with the oncologist next week goes well and you have all your questions answered. I can’t imagine 2 cancers in that time span. I’m certainly hoping for the best for you.

    As for me, I’ve had some ups and downs since my last update. I had my biopsy moved up wish was fantastic. It was really necessary because I’ve seen a lot of changes in my breast that have been causing me to worry even more than I had been. I was in more pain, my main red spot had gotten larger and more inflamed, and the overall redness had spread. I’m also pretty sure that the swelling had increased and my breast was larger.

    I was supposed to go for a biopsy on Wednesday but when I saw the doctor she saw the inflamed red spot and suspected infection. She was able to remove some fluid and pus (sorry for the tmi) to send for analysis. She saw all the signs of IBC but a few of infection. She set me up for a new ultrasound hoping to find an abscess that hadn’t been there before. Then they could drain it and it would explain what was going on, infection rather than cancer.

    She explained that we would explore this route first but not for long.

    Today I had the ultrasound and there was no abscess. The pathologist came in and explained it very clearly. It could be an infection still developing or a cancer, IBC or another cancer but I don’t recall which one he mentioned, lymphoma possibly. He decided to do a biopsy right then to get that answer taken care of. Better to know rather than continue to wait. I think he did a punch biopsy. He took 4 samples. Now I’m waiting on results from those and the sample from the red spot from yesterday checking for infection.

    I’m wondering if I could have both. Infection and cancer? Is it possible to have signs of infection, like pus (again, sorry about tmi) and still be IBC?

    I think I should hear next week or early the following week. I’ve never hoped for an infection so much.

    Good luck to you.

    Alli

  • LoriCA
    LoriCA Member Posts: 923
    edited October 2019

    MonarchWalk, because IBC starts in the dermal lymphatic layer, essentially in your skin, it doesn't take much for it to break through the skin and fungate. The open wound can get infected (very important to keep it clean and lightly covered), or it could be dead tissue from the cancer literally eating your skin and not actually puss. Mine fungated in an amazingly short amount of time. Any tumor that is close to the skin can break through too, but it sounds like you don't have a mass.

    I'm glad they did a punch biopsy and that they knew to take multiple samples. I truly hope you just have an infection or something else benign, but if it does turn out to be IBC with a fungating wound, feel free to PM me if you want to talk, or pop over to the IBC Lounge where you'll find incredibly support.

  • Oceanlove25
    Oceanlove25 Member Posts: 28
    edited October 2019

    Alli, boy you're going through the wringer. I am praying for infection bigtime!! I'm so glad they did the biopsy right away. Now you've done all you can. Stay positive my friend and as busy as you possibly can doing anything! It amazes me how different each one of our cases is and how difficult it is to get information sometimes. I pray you get the results quickly and it is an infection. Please keep me posted.

    As for me...the more reading I do and case studies...the more difficult it is. I see my onc on Monday and I guess he's my second opinion. Most of the cases I've read have reoccurrence when there is just taking the cancerous area out. They even reoccur in 3, 5 or 12 months. In my mind I think, "All it takes is one cell to escape".

    My kids all want me to get a second opinion. My husband loves the surgeon and believes everything he says. But as my caseworker nurse said, "He's a surgeon, not an oncologist", which is so true.
    So, I'm praying I get more answers from my onc. As of right now surgery is scheduled for next Tuesday. So we'll see what happens.

    Sending good thoughts your way. Good luck to you.

    Patty


  • MonarchWalker79
    MonarchWalker79 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2019

    I’m still waiting on final results from my biopsy. Tomorrow is the day I should hear. I got a call from the doctor’s office (the one who ordered the biopsy) last week. She called in a prescription for me. I assume that was based on what was found in the sample taken from the raised area near the surface of my breast. I’m on a pretty strong antibiotic. Today is day 4 of 10 and there has been no positive change to my symptoms. Things have only continued to get worse. I can’t help but think that this is a bad sign. When I spoke to the receptionist on Friday who set up my appointment for tomorrow morning (today is a go here in Canada, Happy Thanksgiving) they still didn’t have biopsy results but she figured they would have them by Tuesday. I’m not sure if I can handle much more uncertainty. I’m continuing to work and do my job but I’ve never felt less effective at work than I have since this whole thing started.

    I needed to vent somewhere hopefully this was an ok place to do that.
    Allison

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