Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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So after all the angst over the last week since my biopsy, I went in to see my onco and they still don't have the results. At least she will call me when she gets them and not make me come in again. So the waiting game continues. Sigh.
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She called. It's back. ER+ PR- her2- I was mentally prepared so that part was fine. I'm not thrilled with the PR- but haven't done enough research to know how that affects things. Also a high ki67 at 30-50. I do know that sucks
Wants a pet scan to see if it has gone anywhere else before node removal. I personally want the nodes gone even if it has spread somewhere else. The less cancer the better. I know it's not curable but I want aggressive treatment. Oligomstatic is it? We shall see.
Lauren
PS- Fucknuts.
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Lauren I am so sorry. I agree, be aggressive. Think about adding complimentary therapies that have good stats behind them too.
(((hugs)))
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Oh Lauren, I'm so sorry you're going through it again. Best of luck for excellent results.
(((more hugs)))
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Lauren, I am so sorry.
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Thanks everybody. A day full of suckage to be sure, but tomorrow I gotta get back to it and enjoy my last few weeks of non-drugged normalcy.
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Lauren - I'm sorry about the news.
Miriandra - I like the dress!
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Ugh.
It's been 7 years since I've been in the cancer/healthcare whirlwind. It's coming back to me how stressful it is to wait for appointments, treatment, surgery, etc. I feel like I can feel it growing and spreading. The Dr. ordered a stat PET scan and the nurse said if I don't hear from scheduling by Friday to call them back. I should have the SCAN by Friday, not make the appointment. I can't have the surgery until the PET is done or start treatment, so I'm really quite annoyed at this point.
I know it's par for the course, but I already waited 3 weeks for the biopsy, knowing it was probably cancer, and now to wait at least another two... I'm probably overreacting and they'll call today to schedule, but that email just really set me off. I think maybe some of the shock of yesterday is wearing off and reality is setting in today...not sure I like it. I won't wait for Friday, that's for damn sure. If I don't hear by tomorrow noon, someone is getting a call. I hate to be 'that' patient, but I will do what I need to do.
There will be plenty of things to get worked up over between now and my last day, so best to learn how to handle it now or be in a perpetual state of annoyance. I have to keep repeating, "It is what it is...move on," to myself over and over.
I hope it's okay to talk about the cancer in this thread. I don't really see it mentioned all that much (that's good!) but I don't really feel all that comfortable in the other threads. It's only been a day, so it's top of mind at the moment.
Thanks for listening.
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Lauren, You are going through so much! This is definitely the place for you discuss things. We are here to listen. Talk/type as much and as often as you want and need to. Here's a virtual hug.
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Sometimes it's not so much a medical experience as a fear journey. We have to be each other's support and companions for that journey, because we never know which one of us will be front and center next.
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Once you make a treatment plan it helps with the anxiety.
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Thanks everybody.
Yes, Lisa, I am very, very anxious to get going. This beast is just growing at will right now and it's making me crazy. Fear journey is a great way to describe it, Alice.
It still doesn't feel 100% real, like maybe someone made a mistake, but I know that's not true. I handled my Stage III a helluva lot better than I'm handling IV. Apples and oranges, I know, but I also have more to lose now that I did then. I've never been happier than I've been in the last few years. The first time I met my oncologist, last September, I started crying saying I knew it was going to come back because I was so happy. I don't think that's why, of course, what I meant was I'm more afraid now than ever that it will come back. And here it is.
I don't have the 'death isn't an option' fighting spirit I need to do the best I can for my mind and body. I'm still in denial and resisting it, I guess, but fried chicken and hot fudge ain't gonna cut it. I have to say yes to this fight instead of struggling against it (like I so cavalierly advised others on this board to do before I knew for sure.) I'm just hoping the still yet to be scheduled PET scan doesn't bring reality crashing down around my ears in a 'you lit up like a Christmas tree' kind of way.
I'm rambling. Don't feel obligated to comment - I know you're listening and supporting. Thank you.
I should go watch some impeachment news to cheer me up. I want to live long enough to see that mf'er die in jail.
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Hi, new to this topic/thread/lounge, not sure what I am supposed to call it hehe. Just stumbled upon this thread when I clicked on 'active topics', glad to have found it, a breath of fresh air! Another non believer here. That is I don't believe in any god. I was brought up going to Sunday School etc, but too many things filled me with doubts, I concluded that our existence is a natural phenomenon. How could there be a god who allows all the suffering that goes on? Especially when my youngest child was diagnosed with Stage 3 liver cancer at age 17 months, and suffered so much.
LaurenInPHX I'm very sorry to read your news above. -
Thanks, Pooh - I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter. How horrible, I can't imagine.
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Lauren, ramble away - this is a goo place to do it and you can be sure none of us will tell you God is great and will take care of you. I hope you find some peace with the path ahead of you - I know it won’t be easy. And hey - we need as many of us as possible around in the next election, even if the Dotard doesn’t get impeached.
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Thanks Wanderweg - I'm doing better today. I was able to focus on work, so that's good.
I woke up to a text from my sister's sister-in-law telling me she and her whole family are praying for me. She is the nicest, most sincere, genuine person, so I took it in the spirit in which it was given and promptly burst into tears. My sister lost her husband about 4.5 years ago, I'm the only real family she has left. I don't want to leave her, she's already lost so much. It is a comfort that her in-laws are keeping her close, but it's not the same. So aside from starting out the day a crying mess...
I still don't have the PET scan scheduled - apparently not approved yet. I will call the onc tomorrow and see if she can call and get this thing moving. I haven't heard if the Faslodex shot I'm supposed to get on Monday has been approved yet either. I'm only dying here, so you know, no fucking rush. Maddening. And depressing. And scary.
Anyway, I am semi-enjoying the impeachment circus, but I feel like the slimy scuzball will get away with all of it including 2020. Just a mood, I hope.
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The fight starts tomorrow. *plays Rocky theme music*
The exercise, the diet, and the Faslodex all start tomorrow. I've given myself a week to digest the news and freak out and cry and eat everything under the sun, but tomorrow the new normal begins. I am ready to say yes to this cancer fuckery and bitch-slap it into submission.
I can't do it this time, but I'm going to try the fast mimicking diet for my injections. Supposedly, it helps the drugs work better, so we shall see. I'm not kidding myself into thinking I can juice and exercise myself into remission, but I am obese and grossly out of shape - healthier living will at least give me a sense of control and hopefully make treatment more effective and tolerable. It's something I should have done years ago, and yet...I didn't, so here we are. And who knows? Maybe I will be an outlier. It ain't over 'til it's over. As one of the six books I've been reading this week said, (paraphrased) "I want to be on the (waaaaaaay) tail end of the bell curve."
I still don't have a PET scan scheduled, but expect to hear from them tomorrow morning. It had been denied so she had to do a peer-to-peer, but it's approved now. With any luck, the cancer has stayed in the neck nodes and can be removed. Not sure about radiation - I've read radiation in that area can cause all kinds of wicked side effects (can't swallow, can't speak, etc.) so it might not be recommended. I mean, really, if I can't eat or talk, what else is there in life? Or my life at least. (As you might have recognized by now, I'm a talker...)
So September 30, 2019 is the before and after line. I have to accept that life will never be the same as it was before Stage IV. It can maybe be close, but not the same. We all have an expiration date, I just have a better idea of when mine might be. That changes things, ya know? So I have to change with it, not fight against it. I'll save my fighting for beating back The Beast instead of fighting the reality of what is. (If you haven't read Byron Katie's The Work, I highly recommend it.)
Anyway, that's my version of a self-involved Sunday sermon.
tl;dr: I start my treatment tomorrow. WOOHOO!
Lauren
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Lauren have a look at Proton Radiation. It has way less "wash" onto tissues you do not want radiated. The beams do not pass through the body but stop and release their energy right into the tumor. They do it for head& neck and other tricky/ inoperable tumors. I did proton rads because of a left sided BC I was worried about my heart. It is not as known-about but the evidence on it is very good. I loved my center, and they worked with the price to make sure I could afford it and they also took on the "fight w insurance" - limiting my responsibility to my max out of pocket under my plan which I knew I'd hit anyway....
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Thanks, SantaB, I will definitely look into it. I hit my out of pocket in March, so whatever I can do this year, let's git 'er done!
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My brother went to Loma Linda, CA to have proton radiation for prostate cancer. That was one of the original locations. He swears by it but the treatment isn't available everywhere. Mayo, MD Anderson, and more coming.
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There are I believe 22 centers in the US now.
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And so the theocracy era begins. https://www.vox.com/2019/9/26/20873873/supreme-court-gut-roe-v-wade-next-week-abortion
I have written and deleted at least three expletive-filled, brutally honest and opinionated posts, sure to offend 80% of the US population (#sorrynotsorry). I'd love to let 'er rip, but I'm not sure how that would fly with the mods. Are f-bombs allowed? Is the term "imaginary sky daddy" allowed? Is "dead carpenter cult leader" allowed? I'm new so I'm not sure how angry we're allowed to get in this thread. Suffice it to say I'm beside myself right now and I'm holding out zero hope for the courts mentioned to do the right thing.
At least it's a diversion from my own situation but I'm sad for the country.
Carry on.
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If you watch The Handmaids Tale you can easily imagine Pence in charge of Gilead
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Well, Lauren, let's test it: The rapidly escalating trend toward a theocracy/oligarchy in this country is fucked up.
There - we'll see if it flies.
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Fucked up is right, Wanderweg. Separation of church and state? Anyone...anyone...Bueller?
To whoever needs to hear this:
Pray to whatever figment of your imagination you'd like, but keep it the hell out of my government. Your ridiculous religious opinions shouldn't dictate what I can and can do with my own body. And yes, until the fertilized egg can live outside my body, I make the goddamn rules. Not brainwashed bible thumpers who wouldn't know a scientific argument if it bit them in the ass. Try making your case without invoking god and we'll see how far you get. I get how believing women are murdering their babies could be upsetting, it would upset me too, but guess what? It's not true, so believe something else. How about try believing that a fertilized egg is a baby as much as an acorn is a tree. How about answering the question,"If a fertility clinic were burning, and you could save 50,000 fertilized eggs or a 3 month old baby, what would you do?" Not. The. Same. Get your cult-pickled brain wrapped around the fact that a non-viable embryo and a cute, bouncy, gurgling baby are NOT THE SAME. One is viable, one is not. One is intelligent life, one is not. What don't you understand?
I don't give a french fried fuck if you think life is god-given and oh humans are children of god and oh we're so fucking special because jesus loves us *eyeroll*. That's a hella arrogant fairytale world you're living in, not even close to reality. We're not special. We have as much significance as an ant, cockroach, or giraffe in the grand scheme of the universe. We just have a bigger, more complex brain than all living things on Earth. That's all. We're born, we do our best to survive at any cost, we die, we decompose. Just like all life forms. We are insignificant. Make the most of the life you have and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
Well, it was nice knowing all of you, lol.P.S. - Started Faslodex today, PET scan finally tomorrow, and I got called for jury duty. (Maybe that's why I'm a little extra today.) -
Abortion is wrong because only women can have one. One cannot be forced against one's will to give blood even to save a life. One cannot be forced to give up a kidney even if a child may die. There are laws preventing the harvesting of organs from the dead unless the person gave permission prior to death. When it comes to bodily autonomy, women have less rights that the dead.
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I think it was Gloria Steinem who said, "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."
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Yes and yes. We're more than incubators, thank you very much.
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Lauren, how's this: Zombie Jesus wants you to have babies for his fucking cult.
That should annoy a few people. 😈
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