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  • helenlouise
    helenlouise Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2019

    ha ha same for me magic.

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  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2019

    Hello all! I'm so excited to find this thread. (And several images to feed my Pinterest boards. )

    I have been very fortunate with most of the religious people in my life. They ask, "May I include you in my prayers?" which is doubly respectful and considerate.

    My boss did offer to do some sort of BC awareness fundraiser for the Komen Foundation. I asked her to choose the Breast Cancer Research Foundation instead. They have a better charity rating, and they haven't sued any smaller charities out of existence for using the phrase "for the cure".

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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited September 2019

    Welcome Miranda. Good work getting your boss to support the better charity.

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

    Welcome. It's always nice to have someone join our group. :)


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  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2019

    Well, I just got chased out of a kidney cancer FB group because I objected to the heavy doses of religion. All I said was how about people who aren't Christian, and could people post the heavily-religious stuff that had nothing to do with cancer on their own pages. Holy shit, you'd think I skinned a live baby and ate it in front of them! I guess we're the last group that it's okay for others to discriminate against. Among other things, I was called hateful. Well, now I am!

    Wish I lived in England. Funny, they have a state religion but nobody there gives a rat's ass what you believe. Here, separation of church and state but the evangelicals are out to whip everyone into believing their sick way.

    I am pissed.

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited September 2019

    True.

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  • HikingLady
    HikingLady Member Posts: 650
    edited September 2019

    Yikes, Alice. One more reason that I appreciate this thread.

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  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2019

    I just checked. They're still saying nasty things about me (such GOOD Christians!), and praying at me in a very threatening way. 😈 Sheesh.

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  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2019

    Alice - just write them off. We like you posting here.

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  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2019

    I like it here, too. Luckily there's another kidney cancer FB group that is more educational, and offers some support. The forum I used when I had endometrial cancer was really good (yay HysterSisters!), but once I was healed and back at work, I gradually drifted away. I didn't realize then that some cancers need longer-term support even after they've been surgically removed. With breast cancer, even the early stage ones like mine, there's life on anti-hormonals, plus the outward reminders of surgery. With the kidney, it's the frequent scans and other monitoring that keeps it constantly in the front of my mind. So I need the long-term support for both, WITHOUT being told I'm some sort of sinner for not drinking the Jesus-flavored Kool-ade.

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  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2019

    Sorry to hear you went through that Alice. I'm glad you have other more supportive venues, like us. :)

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited September 2019

    Miriandra… Welcome to this little corner of the world

    Alice...what a nasty experience. I second Miriandra, Hoping you feel more support hereHeart

    I frequently go to and post on the Retreat for peaceful contemplation thread where photos are shared in hopes of creating just as it says...retreat for peaceful contemplation that does not need words.

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

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  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited September 2019

    Hello all -

    I’m thrilled to have found this thread! I’m in a recurrence scare at the moment and won’t know until Monday if it’s back. I’m over 6.5 years out but it seems likely.

    Anyway, when I saw this thread, I said “Oh thank god” haha. I have always been at least agnostic, then new-agey spiritual, now full blown atheist. I’m beside myself with what the conservative movement is doing to this country. My patience is nearly gone - I keep what I really want to say to myself but it’s getting more and more difficult to stifle.

    In most cases, I don't care what you believe as long as you keep it to yourself and off my body and out of my government. Fat chance.

    As far as bc goes, I am coping by accepting. When I was first diagnosed, an advisor said, “This is the biggest fight of your life. Say yes to it.” Meaning stop struggling and trying to make it not so. It is so. You don’t have to like it but it is so. So say yes to it then fight like hell. Acceptance is so powerful. Now remind me on my deathbed that I said that and I might tell you to go to hell, haha. I don’t know how “evolved” I’ll be then.

    Thanks for letting me ramble. So happy to see like minds and a thread that I don’t have to try to read with my eyes rolling.

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  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited September 2019

    Hi Lauren, welcome!
    I hope your news on Monday is good. Here for you either way.

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

    LaurenInPHX,

    Welcome aboard. If you want to vent about politics with hardly a mention of religion, there is site that is sort of hidden away that you might enjoy. Here's a link. https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/84/topics...

    We all know what you're going through with waiting for results. I've had two recurrence scares. I think they were harder on me than the first biopsy that gave me my diagnosis. All I can say is when you feel things building, take a deep breath. It helps.

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  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited September 2019

    Thanks for the welcome

    Ananda, that thread looks like somewhere I belong too. Should be as fun (as that topic can be)

    My biopsy is Wednesday (after a three week wait) results Monday, next step debunking surgery then new meds, likely Ibrance & something else. I’d love to be wrong, but with rising tumor markers and an MRI with “worrisome” neck nodes, I’m not going to get my hopes up. I’d rather be pleasantly surprised than blindsided.

    We shall see.

    Have a great week!

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

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    You have fortitude, for sure.

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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited September 2019

    Welcome LaureninPHX. No eye rolling needed here. Very glad you found us. The religious right is very frightening to me as well. No wonder Margaret Atwood's new book is a best seller.

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited September 2019

    I could be on a rant about religion and the rights of LGBTQ in Arizona. Same sex marriage is legal in AZ, however, the AZ supreme court ruled today that businesses do not have to serve same sex couples. Why must people who believe in some sort of god have to insert themselves into the lives of other people. I went to the web site of the company that refused the gay couple service, but did not see any indication on their site that says something like "we refuse to make invitation for same sex couples." Businesses routinely put up signs about no shirt no shoes no service, but I have yet to see any indication that indicate something like "our god says we can't serve gay people." 30% of Americans believe their religious beliefs give them the right to refuse service to LGBTQ people and nearly a quarter of Americans believe they have a right to refuse service to atheists! If you look at the research, it is obvious that their is hardly a segment of marginalized society that religious people do not feel compelled to discriminate against while talking about being 'blessed.'

    https://www.prri.org/research/increasing-support-f...

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

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    Back to the basics. :)


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  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2019

    ananda - Love that! Especially since I have some very liberal friends who host a regular tac bight!

    Lauren - Welcome! Any news on the recurrence issue? I've got a brain CT Friday to rule out what I hope is just an incidental finding from a bone scan. We never get to just let it go, do we? But I am so with you on being beside myself with our bloody country. What the hell is wrong with us? I just can't believe that in spite of everything, the hard right is holding power.

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  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited September 2019

    Thanks wanderweg!  Biopsy is tomorrow...finally...after waiting three weeks, then results on Monday. If bad, then neck surgery next to remove nodes and new treatment. If good, I'll be cautiously optimistic about my scans in December, but this 5+week scare has been exhausting. 

    Best of luck with your CT Friday! And no, we really can't let anything go. It's a helluva way to live, but hey, better than the alternative. :)

    I'll be looking forward to your GOOD NEWS results. 

    As for the country, just when you think it can't get worse, now they want to reboot The Princess Bride. That's the true definition of blasphemy. ;)

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

    Not Princess Bride!

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  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited September 2019

    NOOOOOO!!!! What beanbrain thinks they can improve on perfection?

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  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2019

    I wish there were Like buttons. So many things needing !!

    Best of luck, LaurenInPHX and wanderweg. I hope y'all get positive news. )))))good vibes(((((

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  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited September 2019

    Y'all ready for some good news? My oncotype came back in the 97.8% non-recurrence category. My lymph node was clean, so NO chemo and NO radiation recommended! I've started OT for getting my range of motion back after surgery, but I could be done for a good long while.

    I know others have a harder road to follow, and I wish us all the best of luck and care. But I hope we can celebrate the normal things too. :)

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2019

    Miriandra,,

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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited September 2019

    Wonderful news! Give yourself a treat.

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