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DogMomRunner
DogMomRunner Member Posts: 616

My my my seroma. 🤨

So 3 months out from lumpectomy and SLN biopsy, I still have a seroma at the SLN scar. And last week my lymphadema therapist said that she thinks I’m developing a seroma at the lumpectomy site.

It’s driving me nuts. The armpit one that is. I’m massaging it and trying to wear bras to accommodate it.

Any ideas on helping my body reabsorb it? I understand that nature abhors a vacuum and it might take some time to resolve.


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  • helenlouise
    helenlouise Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2019

    Hi dogsmom, I had a seroma from mastectomy that required manually draining four times. It had to be done by syringe by radiologist ( to make sure the syringe was in the right place ). You may want to get a referral to a radiographer to confirm it is a seroma and medical opinion for best treatment. A small seroma can be absorbed but I believe larger ones need to be drained.

    Good luck.

    Helen

  • MDRR
    MDRR Member Posts: 133
    edited August 2019

    Hello

    I developed a seroma following my mastectomy. After my drains came out (about 3 weeks post surgery) I noticed one side was filling up. The surgeon confirmed it was a seroma and it was drained 3 times about 10 days apart. Finally she reinserted a smaller drain on that side for about 3 weeks, and when that came out, things were much better. Now, 18 months post-mastectomy, I still have puffiness on that side, but it's considered a chronic seroma. Nothing that needs draining and nothing of significant size; no pain or anything like that. Just a little puffy. From what I was told, our bodies just need time to heal the areas where tissue is removed.

    It did drive me crazy! But it finally resolved with a little help from the drain.

    Best of luck!

  • SUPer52
    SUPer52 Member Posts: 122
    edited August 2019

    Hi Dogmomrunner,

    I also have a seroma or a hematoma at the incision site which is pretty much directly under my armpit. I am 6 months out from surgery and almost 4 months out from radiation, and it has not gone down at all. It has been the same size since shortly after my surgery. My surgeon did not want to drain it before radiation bc he said they have a tendency to come back anyway, that they usually go down during radiation (mine didn't) and because he felt I would have more caving in at the lumpectomy site than if I let it reabsorb on its own. I guess it also has a slight risk for infection. However, it is starting to cause me a little bit of discomfort, I'm getting tired of feeling it rubbing against the inside of my arm all day long, and my breast and armpit are still slightly swollen overall which affects how bras fit. My concern is that I read that having a seroma or hematoma increases the risk of developing lymphedema, not to mention that I'm pretty sure it's going to make my mammogram rather uncomfortable. I actually have my mammogram and 6 mo follow up with the surgeon tomorrow, so I am going to inquire about whether it is time to consider having it drained or if there are any other steps I can take to help it go down. I will post a follow up to let you know what he says.

  • MBPooch
    MBPooch Member Posts: 229
    edited August 2019

    DogMomRunner - After my BMX I developed one in the armpit about 2 weeks later. The surgeon who did my surgery drained it one time and then I was good to go!

  • DogMomRunner
    DogMomRunner Member Posts: 616
    edited August 2019

    Thanks everyone for the replies. The armpit one was drained once before I started chemo but it refilled by that night.

    SUPer - Mine almost feels like it has solidified. I have an appointment with my BS in November but I don't know if I should have it checked sooner. My lymphadema therapist doesn't feel that I should necessary. I will be very interested in what your surgeon says

  • ctmbsikia
    ctmbsikia Member Posts: 1,095
    edited August 2019

    Hi there. I'm on my 2nd seroma. The 1st was 3 weeks post op, I felt so good after surgery and thought I was past the 1 week recovery so there I went doing housework without wearing a bra. Scrubbing stuff, shaking out and folding laundry and Boom-breast swelled up that night and was painful. BS didn't want to drain it as I was scheduled to start radiation. They told me tight sports bras and wait for it to resolve. I wish that was in the post op instructions!!! It did resolve in about 3 months time and today part of my upper breast is hard as a rock now.

    This past Feb, or Mar I was at exercise class and I dropped or bumped that breast with a 10lb weight. I remember seeing red streaks on my naked breast a day or two later and then I had a pinching pain at times and I could feel it. It freaked me out at first. In June it showed up on MRI-it's about 1cm the report says, BS isn't worried about it, and now I'm at a BIRADs 3 because it's there. I was highly annoyed by all this for awhile. I am better mentally now, I know what it is (there's worse things!)-- I wear a bra almost all the time now so I don't feel it pulling or pinching me and have accepted it just might be there forever.

    I just wanted to chime in as I am curious if others have had these seromas develop well past surgery, and wonder if it will ever go away.

  • SUPer52
    SUPer52 Member Posts: 122
    edited August 2019

    As promised, I am posting a follow up after having my mammogram and meeting with the breast surgeon today. The seroma showed on the mammogram and the surgeon could definitely feel it when he examined me. He wasn't concerned about it and said pretty much what he said before I started radiation- that if he drained it, I would be more likely to be misshapen from that spot caving in because of where it is. He also said draining it carries a slight risk of infection. I decided to give it a little more time to see if it will resolve on its own. He did agree that there is overall swelling in the breast but thinks it is some very mild breast lymphedema (ugh!) from radiation, so I will be keeping my appointment for a consult with the le therapist next week. If she can get the swelling of the breast to go down, perhaps the seroma won't bother me as much. However, I also have in my mind as of now, that if after approximately another month there is no improvement, then I will go back and have it drained. If the therapist believes that having it drained will help the lymphedema swelling resolve, then I will go back even sooner to have it drained. So I have to ask myself, will draining the seroma help the lymphedema resolve, or will getting the lymphedema to resolve make the seroma more bearable to live with?

    My questions for anyone else are-

    1. Has anyone else who had a seroma drained experienced any caving in at the site? I know that the breast can continue to shrink for quite some time after radiation, and even though mine hasn't shrunk yet since it is still swollen, I'm thinking that a shrunken breast with a huge dent in it will make finding a bra that fits even more difficult than my slightly swollen one currently does.

    2. Has anyone else had swelling after radiation that lasted more than 3 months but eventually went down? Most of what I have read on the radiation thread is that the breast is shrinking by then. and my radiation oncologist told me that normal swelling from radiation should be gone by now. I just dread the thought of having to wear compression bras if the le therapist recommends them. I teach on the second floor of a brick school building that is not air conditioned. There are days that our classrooms have been documented to have temperatures exceeding 100 degrees. I can't imagine adding a thick, heavy compression bra to the mix.

    On a positive note, the seroma did not cause discomfort during my mammogram. In fact, I was nervous about the mammogram hurting from that and from being my first one after radiation, but I didn't notice anything different than any other regular mammogram I had. Maybe that's because the last two mammograms I had were the one for the stereotactic biopsy and then the one just prior to surgery when they checked that the localization wires were in place. After those two, this one was easy!

  • DogMomRunner
    DogMomRunner Member Posts: 616
    edited August 2019

    Hi ctmbsikia - My BS did not recommend a compression bra for me post lumpectomy. I did come on here and search for the best bra and found one with higher sides for the SNL site. I wore that bra with a sock in the armpit but the bra probably wasn't compressive enough. I have a feeling that some are just prone to developing a seroma no matter what they do. I will keep you update on mine. Right now the SNL site has a seroma right at the incision and it somewhat lemon shaped but a bit smaller. The breast one is right where the tumor was and about golf balls size. I am wearing a compression bra most days but alternating with my underwire bra also.

    Thanks for the update SUPer! I definitely will want to know what happens to your seroma(s). I will start radiation in 2-4 weeks. I'm guessing that I will have to wait until that's over to see whether mine needs to be drained

  • Sportymom
    Sportymom Member Posts: 77
    edited August 2019

    I too also have a seroma located adjacent to my lumpectomy incision in the armpit. I had my surgery on July 7 and it has gone down somewhat but now feels far more solid. It does not really bother me but it did change and get a little “disfigured” when I wore a different sports bra at my hockey game. I only noticed that after I took my bra off and realized that I should have worn a different bra. It kind of got squished to the side if that makes any sense.

    I do have one question. Has anyone else had puckering or dimpling over their seroma? Kind of freaking me out as I had the dimpling over my tumour. I am hoping that it is not something else but everything is making me nervous as this whole BC thing is still so new.

  • Yogatyme
    Yogatyme Member Posts: 2,349
    edited September 2019

    I had BMX on Aug 13 and drains removed 2 1/2 weeks later. I immediately developed a seromaon the right side (5 lymph nodes removed from right armpit). I applied moist, warm compress for 15 min several times a day and it absorbed after about 2weeks. It was bizarre to hear that fluid sloshing around....my husband could even hear it!! I am still wearing a compression bra w plenty of padding and I think that may have helped too. I hope you find a successful resolution.

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