I can't get my act together and I don't know why

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  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited January 2007
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    I am a couple years behind in my income tax returns and and and....




    And people wonder why we have trouble getting back into the swing of things? The financial aftermath for me has been like the gruesome monster under my bed at night.

    I finally slogged through my mountain of paperwork this month. A year ago I received a form to fill out for financial assistance from the provider I owed the most money to. By the time I sorted through it all, I discovered I had five different accounts with them. Three were smaller amounts, and for some reason my chemo bill was split into two accounts. It all adds up to $57,000. Mind you, I have insurance and this amount is what was not covered that they want from ME.

    It appears all of these accounts may be in collections, but I'm sending in the papers anyway. Maybe tomorrow I'll feel like seizing the day instead of hiding under the covers.
  • katfine
    katfine Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2007
    I just found this thread. Sorry, this one is going to be long, because it's been so long since I've shared.

    Boy do I relate to the theme of clutter I've been reading throughout as a metaphor/reflection of feeling out of control, disorganized, a mess, useless, ashamed, unworthy and isolated. It's no wonder we're depressed, anxious, traumatized, fearful, resentful, exhausted, weighted down. I don't know about all of you, but I know I feel beat down sometimes.

    I try to find the gifts in this experience, and there are and were many; renewed sense of family, finding out how many people cared for me, the opportunity to reinvent myself and find a better balance. But the losses are at least equal to the "gifts." I lost my breasts to the surgeon's knife, my youth to chemopause, and my energy to treatment, infections and I guess the grief that has seeped into my bones and is only now starting to surface to consciousness. I can no longer, and no longer have the will to do my life's work, which I loved.

    Sure, I have the opportunity to reinvent myself, but the stress of knowing that my time is limited by my bank account sometimes feels crushing.

    I used to be on bc.org many times a day, but I dropped off and out sometime late October after having recurrent cellulitis infections post-bilat. mastectomy and DIEP flap surgery. When the infectious disease doc told me that the infections could continue to recur - the last one had gone into my bloodstream and I was hospitalized for nearly a week - I decided that the cancer hadn't killed me, I wasn't going out in a blaze of infection. I took a leave from work.

    Nearly three months later, none of my plans to declutter have come to fruition. I'm up to my ears in clutter. I used to work 50-60 hours a week, and still managed to make sure our home was in decent, if relaxed, basic order, that we were all fed fairly properly , dressed in clean clothes... Sure, some stuff slipped, ok, a lot slipped, but it was manageable, mostly.

    I can't believe how that now, when I've had nothing but time, I've managed to do so little.

    Anyway, I could write for hours. I'm not generally as low as this post reads. I really do know where much of my time has gone - 2-3 weeks to recover from infections, caring for mother who was hospitalized twice with pneumonia and went into rehab nursing home for three weeks, caring for mother-in-law, who had a stroke and is now in rehab nursing home, caring for chronically ill 13 y.o. son, who was home for three days with projectile vomiting, running to doctors with my husband to make decisions about how to treat the 2.6 inch meningioma/90% chance benign tumor in his brain...

    And now, this week, I'm on crutches and need to follow up with an orthopedist about whether I have a torn meniscus in my knee or am developing arthritis. So, I'm not a slacker. I have reason to feel less than par. I am going to local support groups, a counselor. I have friends and family I love.

    Bottom line, I think we all need to give ourselves a break, not feel so guilty for feeling our feelings, for not being the poster children for breast cancer. Our lives were turned upside down. It's actually encouraging to see so many women here sharing how you have been helped medically and therapeutically. It's also encouraging to know we're not alone and that we don't always have to show our brave and perennially optimistic face. I'm a little tired of being brave. But being able to share here let's me vent and then move on.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2007
    Kathy, thank you for summing it all up. BUT DEAR, you HAVE been busy taking care of others. Darn, than in itself is extremely stressful which then causes fatigue.

    I hope that infection/s is gone.
    Shirley
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited January 2007
    Kathy, beautiful post! You have been through SOOOO much. Thanks so much for your words. I hope your health problems (knees, infections, etc,) resolve soon.

    And you're right. We do need to give ourselves a break. Part of the problem for me is it's so crappy and stressful living in a mess that it's hard not to be down on myself about it...but after reading everybody's posts on here i'm getting better at it. And strangely, something is happening to me since starting this thread...it's somehow kind of motivating me to take baby steps toward getting my life in order. actually, not even baby steps. let's just say i'm learning to crawl...sometimes i manage to get up on my knees and move forward a bit and other times i fall flat on my face...and that's okay.
  • Dollyd
    Dollyd Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2007
    Been there in addition to BC surgery in 2002 I had an aneurysm clipped in my brain a year later. When my nuro surgeon told me I could not drive for 6 months I asked him could I fly, he replied no not for 3 months. When I got home I booked a flight to Paris for 3 months later. I always felt better out of our house. When housework gets too much I employ someone to get me back on track. Life’s too short to spend it doing housework.
    dolly
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited January 2007
    Dolly, when i first read "i asked him if i could fly," i thought you meant literally. not kidding. I thought to myself, WHAT A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR! lol.

    Interesting how we feel better out of the house, isn't it. And I agree about employing someone to do the housework. I just need to get to the point where I'd feel comfortable having someone in to do it. Mine is too far gone for outside help right now.

    Paris....image
  • sugar2u
    sugar2u Member Posts: 49
    edited January 2007
    gsg,

    Sounds like our minds run together. When I first heard someone discussing swimming during BC, I wondered if I could swim after BC. I never could swim before. hahaha

    sugar2u
  • katfine
    katfine Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2007
    In this or last week's Time magazine, the one on the brain, with some truly amazing articles, there was a book review. Apparently someone wrote a book, which posits that "messy is the new neat." Says we're stressing way too much over trying to be perfect. Says the most effective managers are the ones who pile things on their desks, because they're not wasting time on keeping things perfectly straightened. Cool.

    And there's a really good website for all of us, which when I feel up to I will go back to. Flylady.com. It's all about taking baby steps and being consistent. She doesn't expect us to do more than 15 m./day decluttering. Lots of really helpful stuff on the website.

    Feeling loads better today. Turns out that my knee is not arthritic. Will have an MRI next week, but doc thinks that I just need to do some exercises to loosen my quadriceps and hamstrings to heal up the pain. Very encouraging.

    Now I just need to figure out how to make a livable wage doing something I love. I think we could use a thread on that topic alone. In fact, I think I'll start one.
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited January 2007
    I just love you all.

    Anna
  • Juls
    Juls Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2007
    I have been away from here for a while and am so glad I found this thread. There isn't one of you who hasn't replied that I can't relate to. No point in me typing it all out because I feel just the same. I really need to be with people who "get it."

    I too am in a mess here and have been for a while. Now my house is generally surface cleaned but I live in the woods (pine needles) have two dogs, and one of our cats (we have 10 lets not go there) lives upstairs in the house. My biggest problem is the projects that have accumulated. Stashing stuff in the garage or the spare bedroom etc. you all know the drill.

    Somebody put it quite well. No desire. NONE. And I think I find that more mind boggling than anything. I have had a House Cleaning Service for 17 years so it isn't that I don't like cleaning (yes I'm strange) I just don't have that desire. I also do weddings and Home Staging on the side (real estate sales) and so I love making a home decorating all that I just don't have the uumph to do it here.

    I mean you know things are out of control when your dbf ask where your purse is and you say in the office, he says where and you say well are you blind right there in a box on the floor. Don't trip over it! Yep my purse was a box for the month of December.

    Well I finally got my purse situation straightened out and I'm sure it'll look like the black hole in another week but I'm doing the same that has been mentioned here. Baby steps. I'm not a big fan of fly lady but it does work for a lot of people and doing things bit by bit is better than being overwelmed. And much healthier. So in the last month (been down with lat flap recon) I have managed to clean out my make-up drawer, my toothpaste drawer, my closet, my pantry,part of my files, my sock drawer, and just started on the spare room today while cleaning. Sounds like a lot but it took me forever. I just went really slow.

    I've always, even since I was a kid (strange child) been one to spend 15 in the am and at night before bed wiping down and picking up. I'm just now after being a year out from treatment getting back to that. (have a list for that if anyone wants it)

    Thank-you to all of you for validating how I have been feeling. I really really thought it was just me.

    And for those of you who think your house may be too much for a house keeper, trust me they have probably seen a lot worse. So pat yourselves on the back and give yourselves a lot of love.
  • sjoc
    sjoc Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2007

    I actually thought that today was "THE DAY". I was going to catch up on the laundry, clean the bathroom, my bedroom and get all my paperwork together for the accountant for taxes and fill out all the financial papers for both of my kids for college. Instead,I took my son to brunch, then went for a ride and sat by the river drinking coffee. But tonight, I put on Desperate Housewives and actually am about half way through the clutter in my bedroom. I'm going to be happy if I only finish that one room this week. I think spending time with my son is so much more important and gratifying than laundry. I thnk I finally have my priorities straight. Housework will wait, he'll be gone too soon.

  • jrp
    jrp Member Posts: 21
    edited January 2007
    Hi,
    Last week, after three weeks back to work [and crashing and burning at least once a week], I finally gave myself permission not to be superwoman. I was the only one expecting me to bounce back to my 110%.

    Am glad to find out that I'm not alone. Thanks for all the posts. Take care!!
    Jan
  • rew
    rew Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2007

    Wow, this thread is helpful! I have such a big gamut of emotions -- I'm still doing treatments but coming to the end of them. I go from feeling elated to being depressed, to being frightened and frustrated, overwhelmed by the diagnosis, the treatment, the lack of understanding by some...some days it seems like too much to bear. THEN the guilt creeps in -- I know there is always someone who has it worse, who is worse off physically, financially, relationally and that just adds to my guilt! Anyone else out there having racing emotions including Guilt!? Thanks everyone!

  • sjoc
    sjoc Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2007
    "BC is not getting the best of you - think of it as part of your treatment - because it is - it's just treating your emotional health instead of physical..."

    Ginney - I can't thank you enough. Your comments about treating my emotional health made sense to me. I've finally started taking xanax daily, and am starting to feel that I can handle things better. Sometimes, getting someone else's perspective opens our eyes, and I don't feel like such a failure at this BC game. Thanks so much. Hope you are feeling well. - Sandy
  • Sphynx
    Sphynx Member Posts: 611
    edited February 2007

    Bringing this post to the top for 3Bears.

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited February 2007
    Progress Report:

    I've started on my dining room table and making great strides. i spent about two hours shredding old mail yesterday. Much to my HORROR** i opened what i thought was a promotional piece and it was something from a COLLECTION AGENCY that i had received in OCTOBER! I was turned over by the hospital for nonpayment of $100. I was sure this was wrong because one day at the end of July I sat down and wrote out checks totalling almost $5,000 paying every doctor & hospital bill off. When i went through all my stuff, i discovered i HAD NOT paid that one. I was in the middle of chemo and did try to keep my cancer bills kind of organized, but i was pretty befuddled and by that point it was getting out of control. I can't believe i have that on my credit report now. i'm calling them first thing monday morning. It's weird i haven't gotten anything else in the mail from them or even a phone call since october.

    my table still has a long way to go for people to actually be able to sit at it. i'm hoping by the end of the day, we'll be able to have dinner there.

    my son cleaned my living room and family room for me yesterday. there's still a LOT of clutter everywhere, but progress is being made. he even lit some candles and burned some potpourri so it would smell and look "homey."


    **okay, horror is a total exaggeration.

    i still don't give a (insert *the* word) about some stuff. pre-bc, i would have been in a state over receiving something from a collection agency. i just kind of looked at it and flatly said "oh, well."
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2007
    That is super progress.

    We are on the same wavelength. I have much to do but decided that I would start with a spot in my house that I knew I could clear up and not make a bigger mess! So, I have started clearing out my closet of junky clothes that I'll never put on again. Wow..filled up BAGS of stuff and really..nothing worth giving away so i threw the stuff out! What a good feeling. Still have more to go through but I found a pair of practically-new pants, tried them on and they FIT! HA! Didn't remember even owning them! GEEEEEZ!

    After I get the closet done, I am going shopping for decorative pillows. I used to always buy little things for the house now and then and had stopped doing that. Even sad plants were remaining. I finally replaced a plant on Fri. and it makes such a difference..I have a lot of plants and have always taken pride in them...until bc.

    I was feeling a bit chipper today after once again seeing that I'm thinking about keeping my house a home, if you know what I mean. My house is fairly neat for the most part but I do have these corners (like my closet) that haven't been tended to. Feels good to get that started.
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited February 2007
    ravdeb: image

    i'm impressed you have live plants. mine all "flat-lined" in june. do you keep going to your closet and looking at it? i kept going into my family room yesterday and just looking and smelling.

    if i can find my camera..that's a very big IF...i'm gonna take a pic of my dining room this morning and then when i'm done. (if i can work up the nerve. it still is horrendous and embarrassing.)

    and the obstacle course that is my laundry room that you have to go through to get back here to my computer is worse than what the army puts new recruits through in basic training. there will be NO pics taken of this. you girls couldn't handle it.
  • Sandra1957
    Sandra1957 Member Posts: 1,701
    edited February 2007
    On the topic of live plants - My almost 13 year old asked why we don't have live plants in the house anymore. He said that he liked them and misses them. I thought that it was strange that a 13 year old boy would notice something like that. I wanted to buy an artificial Christmas tree, but he even cried that we had to have a real one. I'm wondering if there is a message here. I think that I will buy a few live plants for the house. I've been thinking about cleaning out my closet as I have lots of clothes that I haven't worn since my bilat. Also, need to get all of my tax papers in order. Chores, chores, chores!! It doesn't take very long for things to fall apart does it, but boy is it a pain to clean up the mess.

    lini
  • sherloc
    sherloc Member Posts: 1,047
    edited February 2007
    Juls77, you have a drawer for your toothpaste?
    hahahahahahahahah
    I have got to get me one of those.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    I love reading this thread. Thanks again, gsg, for starting it.

    I HAD to do some housecleaning because my daughter came in last night. She stayed just long enough to make me clean (a little) and left this morning. My middle daughter is coming in two weeks (without children and DH), so guess what I'm NOT going to do...change the bed. She can sleep on the sheets her ds slept on. I'll wash the pillow cases for her.

    My big project (besides all the other stuff that needs to be done in this house) is to clean out my drawers and closet.

    While cleaning yesterday I was sooooo tired. It seems when I used to get tired cleaning sort of made me less tired. Not yesterday. And I can't think clearly. You must think when you clean. Cleaning is not for dummies.

    We have a toothpast drawer also..FWIW.

    Well, the ole house looks a bit better, but I still wouldn't invite the president to come visit.
    Shirley
  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited February 2007
    I also plowed through the mountain of papers recently to find out where I'm at with owing money. I started a different thread to talk about that fiasco.

    I have several items that appear to be in collections, some of them for quite some time. I got curious about my credit report last year and I think there was only one medical item showing up.

    I was even more surprised that my phone bill didn't show up. I switched carriers in 11/05. I made a point of paying my phone bill very promptly that time because the new company would not take me with an overdue bill. Two checks I mailed that november got lost, and the phone bill was one of them!

    When they kept sending me bills, I'd think 'gimme a break, I already paid that.' Six months later I was in collections and that lost check never did show up, so I finally paid what I owed. What a stupid thing to have as a black mark on my report, I thought. Lo and behold, it's not on my report!

    My suggestion is to not worry about about something that's only $100.
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited February 2007
    i'm doing better than i was at getting things done, but it's still very hit and miss. i'm finding i mostly want to play and that's mostly what i've been doing. i know i have to start my tax stuff and i'm totally avoiding it. i have a bunch of birthday cards sitting here that i haven't opened yet. the not opening christmas or birthday cards thing still seems crazy to me, but when i pick them up to open them, i stop myself and set them back down.

    how's everyone else doing?
  • Sphynx
    Sphynx Member Posts: 611
    edited March 2007
    Bumping this post up. The Michigan ladies were trying to remember Patrice's sign-on name because we found her posts so funny.

    So, we hear that the missing fallopian tube post is also missing!

    xxxooo
    Nancy
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited March 2007
    i have LOTS of missing stuff right now because of the mess, but most of what's missing i no longer remember having had it in the first place because of my chemo brain. i do, however, specifically remember having a left fallopian tube.

    that post makes perfect sense to me, btw. scary.image
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited March 2007

    there's been two kernels of caramel corn stuck to the floor in the middle of massive dust bunnies under my desk for months now. i wonder how long i'm gonna leave them there. they're not that far back. i can poke one of them with my toe.

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited March 2007

    As long as they don't bite your toe, I'd say you're ok.

  • gracejon
    gracejon Member Posts: 972
    edited March 2007

    I just quickly read this thread. Boy can I relate! My one issue is that I've dragged everyone else in the house down too. We all are slugs now even with things we like to do. I do think organization is the word of the day, week and year. Not only am I not doing half the stuff at half the rate I used to do it, my hubby thinks only I can get er done so it sits and waits for me. On the flip side, I only care once in a while and the rest can and does wait. We are slugging along and managing to only slide a bit back so I still have hope that this burst of energy will hit me face on and I will be able to make some headway. The whole thing does bother me a bit but not so much that I really am worried about it. I do not think that othersa can understand this concept but no longer worry about what they think. I did move some clothes around from laudry room to bedroom to closet. I also know that soon and very soon, I will need to put winter stuff away and find summer stuff. I have managed to do this the last few seasons and expect that this too will be in the near future. The good news is a little warmer weather and a little bit of sunshine does go a long way to decrease the slugdom.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited March 2007

    My house would look a lot better if I would get off the &^^%$ Internet!

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited March 2007
    rose always makes good points.

    jon, i think it's better that you dragged the rest in your house down with you. that way you don't have to feel guilty about being the only slug in a house of "doers."

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