Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007

    Nandy, I think I'm posting too much today...but what I recommend is just sleep, watch TV, and take bubble baths, don't fight it. Don't do anything productive. I slept most of the day and night yesterday and feel a lot better today, though I'm still pretty tired. Drink lots of water. Your body will heal quicker with rest.

  • Aladora
    Aladora Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2007
    I'm here, I'm here! I know I am terrible about posting here, to be honest this is the fourth forum that I post on so sometimes it's hard to keep everyone updated! (A large parenting website, a local website and a private website of around 55 women who have kids the same age as my little monkey)

    I'm doing really well, after the 4 1/2 bad days it seems as though I am back to normal for the other 2 1/2 weeks. Before I forget, my last chemo is May 7.

    It's strange, I feel fine now unless I think about treatment and then I actually start feeling queasy again. I have a small bruise on my left arm from the IV and if I look at it I feel sick again. Any time I even think about chemo I feel gross. So, to be honest, I try not to think about it!

    My hair is gone gone gone. In fact, I fired the stubble before it could quit. I took the advice from you ladies and used some masking tape and took as much off as I could. Boy, did THAT feel better! My wig is more comfortable and I like wearing it more!

    I finally called and signed up for the Look Good, Feel Better program and I'm going on March 13. Not a bad date, my chemo is on March 5th and my birthday is on March 10th so all the makeup and skin care stuff will be like an extra birthday present to me!

    I also finally put in a call to my onc to get a referral for physio. I never did it after my surgery and my shoulder is still not that great...so I called my doc and I'm just waiting for a call back.

    Tomorrow is going to be fun! My neighbour's little girl is turning 8 and she adores my little guy. She has invited him to her party, which is being held at the local gymnastics club. It is going to be a dozen 8 year olds and my 20 month old! He is going to adore the attention! I wanted to start him in gymnastics as soon as he turned two, so this will be a great way to see if he likes it.

    The only problem is that someone has to be on the equipment with him at all times. I'm fine going with him...but how am I going to keep my hair or bandanna from falling off??? I don't want to traumatize the kids! My little guy is fine with my hair (or lack thereof) but these are older kids who might be upset.

    I wonder if crazy glue would work?

    I hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected. I hate to read about your insurance issues...I think everyone needs to immediately move up here to Canada!

    Have a good weekend,
    Susan
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    We're jealous, Aladora. You get rid of those other forums and just post here. Do we really have to share?!!
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007

    Joni...you only need one set of bangs...get the turbans w/o hair..that's what I do!!

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    Everything going well, my last chemo should be May 2 (yipee!)

    In other news, I am just back from the dr, and he listened, looked, and poked. THen he announced that Yup...that is a pretty nasty stubborn case of bronchitis. (duh) He did not want to change my antibiotic, mostly because there was nothing more appropriate, I guess...but he did up my dose. So he gave me a prescription for 5 250mg pills of Levaquin to take along with the 500mg pills I already had. I figured GREAT! only 5 pills, I should get a break on the price! NOPE insurance company charged me the same insane copayment for 5 pills as they did for 10. blech. being sick is expensive. I DID, however, treat myself to a new lipstick while I was waiting! I am with you guys all the way WE DESERVE IT! I do feel a bit better today than I did yesterday, so I think I will try to get to bed early again, and see if I can shake this bugger infection before session #3 next week.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Here's what I could do. Couldn't get into Google so this is what I could figure out from here and from memory...I didn't go all the way back to the beginning so some people might be missing. PM me or post corex..dates are END DATES!!!! Let's get this party overwith!!!

    Aladora, Victoria,7-May
    Amera, Mass, AC, 22-Mar
    Dar1, Alberta, AC, 7-Mar
    I82jem(Jan), NC, FEC
    Ihopeg (Ilene), Penn, TAC, 9-May
    IowaCindy, AC/Taxotere, 18-April
    JoniIMB, Alberta, 20-Apr
    Jungiee
    Kids123
    Lucy, TCH/Herceptin, Dec
    Lynn12, Mass, TC, 4-May
    Melianne, Cal, AC/Taxol,30-Jun
    Mer1957
    Mizsissy, Mich,TC, 5-Mar
    Nandy, Missouri, 2-Apr
    Ritajean, Illinois, CMF, 30-Mar
    Robertin, Kansas, 8-May
    RobbinJaye, California, AC, 31-Mar
    Rsheehey (Rebecca), NJ, AC, 2-May
    Sandra7inCA
    Shorti, Ontario, FEC/Taxotere, 23-Apr
    Sirgin, Mass
    Skydivine, Midwest, AC/Herception, 23-Apr
    t4t(Tae), Alabama, AC
    Viddie, Mass, AC/Herception, 19-April
    Vlfr


    Mizsissy
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    Hi everyone,
    Robertin & Rebecca,
    I was also on Levaquin. Watch for yeast infections- both mouth (thrush) and vaginal. Unfortunately, I have them both. The doc said it was a s/e from Levequin. Easy fixable- today she gave me a rx for Diflucan- (fluconazole)- It is only for 1 pill for one day & because it was generic, it only cost me $4.00. I hope it works!!
    Rebecca, I am glad your doctor listened to your lungs. I hope you feel better soon.
    Amera, How are you feeling?
    Robbinjaye, when are you going to have your test? I hope it is much ado about nothing.

    Mizsissy, my last A/C is
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    oops- I pushed wrong button- sorry.
    my last A/C is March 29- then onto taxol/herceptin and radiation. That should end around July 12. Then 3 weekly doses of herceptin until around April 19, 2008. Then onto a well needed tropical vacation and celebration.

    Viddie
  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy,
    My last TAC is May 9th.
    I got a prescription for Augmentin Antibiotic from the onc since I coughed all night. I will take it easy this weekend.
    I hope everyone feels well.
    ilene
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    Thanks for the tip Viddie...I will keep an eye out for those secondary (yucky) infections. Ah the indiginity of it all.

    off to my evening activities....
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007

    Viddie, you're kidding about 2008 aren't you...?!!

  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited February 2007
    RobbinJaye - Northern, California, 4*AC - March

    (4 doses of AC - Last dose end of March - Start rads in April)
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy,
    I am her2 pos, which means I need doses of herceptin every 3 weeks for a year after my a/c, taxol, and radiation. It does sound like a lot of time, but herceptin seems to smother the beast. I am doing everything I can to have a very happy ending. Time will fly and the s/e of herceptin are nothing like A/C or taxol. I will get my hair back on herceptin and get on with things. I will only have to wait if I want to go away for a month. We had to cancel our plans for our March Florida condo rental vacation this year, but plan to do something equally exciting next year. Maybe a Europe River barge vacation. Right now I do not care about the cost- maybe our kids will offer to pay---just dreaming.....Anyone else have to take herceptin?
    Viddie
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Okay gals, here's one for you. When you are going through menopause, chemo induced or not, how the hell do you know if you are pregnant? I assume if you go through at an older age, then there is not as much worry as you are not as fertile. But having irregular periods at 41 makes me very nervous.

    I just spent $ on a pg test (I am not, thank God!) because I am 5 days late and feel very PMSy (or very pregnant). Do I need to just stock up on pregnancy tests or what? I cannot worry every month, and will have no idea what's what if I am not having regular cycles. Holy moly, this is not something I ever gave a thought to. Chemo sucks!

    I think I'll post this on the general chemo forum as well.
    Amera
  • Aladora
    Aladora Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2007
    Quote:

    We're jealous, Aladora. You get rid of those other forums and just post here. Do we really have to share?!!




    Lol, I could get rid of one of them but not the others. The private 55 member website is a group of women that I have been talking to since I found out that I was pregnant with my son back in Nov, 2004! Plus, they are the Ugly Hat Ladies, I can't abandon them, they would hunt me down!

    But I will try and post here more often.

    So...any ideas about the whole wig/scarf falling off while playing at the gymnastics club issue?
  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited February 2007
    hey i am still here girls ... went through my last FEC on Monday and just getting out of my fog . I am being hydrated by home care nurse that comes in everyday ... could not keep anything down... and I have a rash which the doctor gave me more meds for pregnazone uck nasty stuff you have to take it with food 5 pills a day for 5 days . I took them for one day then off again until I can get my stomach back . Hives all over me up around my ears down my thighs ... When I look in the mirror ewwww what the heck is that man ..... a mum , bald , scars down her belly , up her chest .... quick look then on with the towel . My baldness I do not look at ... get my bandanna on to warm the brow.

    I have 3 more sessions of taxotere to go and will be finished chemo April 23rd My eldest birthday ) They say the tax is not as nauseating as the FEC ..... sure hope so .

    FEC sucks .... 3 down 3 more to go then 33 rad treatments looks like 3 is my lucky number .

    So hello to all sorry I have not been on so long I have been sick , ill , feeling grumpy and have lost my period though I am 50 now and would not miss it anyway. Also lost our internet for a bit and me mum is that only one that could fix it ...... 2 teenage daughters off the chats , forums ????? oh oh had to get that going .... took me a couple of days , good thing I did it before chemo .....
    Its dang cold out still the sun is shining ..... hope everyone has a good weekend .... me i am taking it easy man Get hubby and kids to clean the house while I get some sleep ........
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Hi everyone!
    It sounds like everybody was busy today!!!
    I really don't know when my last chemo will be. My fourth chemo (CMF) is March 30. Then I have to wait 3 weeks to start 33 rads. Then I have to wait 3 more weeks and return to 2 more chemo sessions which have not yet been scheduled. YUCK!!!

    I'm a little down today. I spent the day in the nursing home with my Mom. It's almost a 3 hour drive there so it's been a full depressing day, but I need to go when I am feeling well.

    Hey Rebecca...I'll catch you early in the mornings, too.
    Hope your bronchitis disappears quickly.

    The rest of you hang in there. I'll try to be "perkier" tomorrow!

    Rita
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    Well Amera I think that is a very good question! Luckily I do not have to deal with that, as my husband and I decided that we were done having babies and "took steps" some time ago. I am not sure what you should do about the pregnancy issue, other than simply make sure that you use contraception. maybe you should ask your dr.

    As far as the scarf slippage issue...I have not had any problems at all with scarves slipping and sliding off my bald head. I think that it is all in how you tie it, and the material of the scarf. Cotton ones stay best, and make sure that when you lay the edge of the scarf across your brow, you do it a little low (I do it a bit above the eyebrows) and then tie it so that the knot is in the nape of your neck, below the bulge at the back of your skull. Pull it pretty tight, and then pull it loose again when you are done tying. My scarves stay totally put for the entire day...I just do not recommend doing any cartwheels or anything
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    Dear Shorti,
    Congrats on your last FEC on Monday. Sorry you are having such a hard time. Hopefully the Taxotere will be easier on you. It is sure nice to have hubby and kids to clean house. Hopefully you can have some R & R this weekend.

    Amera,
    When I started menopause around 5 years ago, I took 3 pregnancy tests. Then my mean doctor who I just finally got rid of, told me with a mean straight face that I was in menopause and there was no need to keep checking. I thought that was so mean. He could have said something in a nicer way. He is the same doctor that when I told him i had breast cancer, he actually said to me that that was not that bad. I asked him if he knew something I didn't know, like they made a mistake. Anyway, I have a new doctor now.
    I think you can have a heart to heart talk with your oncologist next time you see her, and she will probably give you some advice and statistics.
    Viddie
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited February 2007

    I have my last AC March 7. Miszissy you are so organized! And I'm envious of all those who are sleeping - I wake up 5-6 times a night and dread it. Any helpful hints?

  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited February 2007
    for me the ativan helps with sleeping.sleep like a baby , they say its addictive but I do not think so . Its made for us to deal with the &*^% we go through .
    I wear cotton bandannas and they stay on my head , keep me warm too and the "breeze " that floats along the back of your neck . I still have stubble on my head and am just leaving it, being winter I do not go out too much , we are bracing for another snow storm this weekend .
    Dar1 hope you get some sleep ask about ativan .... hope Western Canada is warmer than here in Toronto !!!!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Shorti - FEC sucks. I can't agree with you more!

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Whoops Shorti I left you out, I was thinking of you but couldn't find any of your posts in my 5th day chemo fog this afternoon...All I could remember was Ontario and your virtual cabin, but I will get you right up there.

    Hi there Dar...another early finisher!!! Yeah! Viddie, I guess you weren't kidding, but I gather from what you're saying it's not as rough as the typical chemo...
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Some late night ramblings...

    This cancer thing is so surreal. I just saw a TV image of lady with a scarf on undergoing chemo, talking about how hard it was on her and her family, and I just didn't connect. She was presenting herself as a "victim." I've just never wanted to feel like a "victim." I don't identify with victims.

    When I go get those chemo drugs, I wonder what they are really giving me. Am I really getting taxotere or just some clear liquid? My oncologist is such an "enigmatic" close lipped guy...never explaining anything, the nurse (the good one) got me switched from AC to TC...he never had the time to discuss anything with me. And then there was that creepy smile on his face when he came in to announce to me that I had a HIGH score on the oncotype test and therefore a high risk of recurrence.

    There's just something wierd about the way people treat us, like we aren't real people any more, we're "cancers" ? I mean, the way Rebecca got put off when she needed medical attention, the runaround I got with my antibiotics...the other indignities we've gone through, it all seems wierd, fake...

    My surgeon was great...I don't get this feeling from other people on my medical team...but anyone else get the creeps about these oncologists?

    OK..9 pm IS late for me...
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Oh Mizsissy, your post couldn't have come at a better time. I am feeling really torn about this whole experience. On the one hand, I completely agree with you. I do not at all identify with "victims." I don't feel like one most of the time.

    On the other hand, I cannot help but believe I was in denial for a long time. Until...my hair fell out. Now it's out there for everyone to see. It seems so superficial, but as I've said, it's not really so much about vanity as it is about being "that woman with CANCER" everywhere I go. I cannot seem to get over it. And I hate it, hate it, hate it!

    I ran into a former student at the mall who'd heard about my situation. She was working at the shoe store and loudly asked about chemo, how I felt, did it hurt, etc? I can forgive her as she's only 19, but the entire crowd heard her. It made me feel really uncomfortable. Same with the "survivor" at the grocery store. I do not want to be identified by my disease but until my hair grows back, I cannot escape it.

    AND, I think what you said about oncologists is right on. My surgeon was wonderful. I absolutely trusted her and her nurse and knew I could ask her anything at any time and get a solid answer in a compassionate way. I think maybe that's because it's the surgeons who see us at our most vulnerable and they are used to dealing with crying, emotions, women in shock.

    Oncologists are used to seeing it all. They deal with cancer all day long. Most of us are early stagers and we are not the ones our oncologists are concerned about. We don't have the unusual or difficult to treat varieties. To them, this is not a big deal. But to us, it certainly is. When you hear cough and blood clot in the same sentence, it's a big deal. When you hear transfusion, bone damage, heart damage, early menopause, it's a big deal. Most of us will not ever experience these things, but this guessing game is no fun. Should I call? Will my dr think I'm a pain in the a-- if I bother her again over something "trivial?" Where are all those wonderful, caring, reassuring oncologists I keep reading about in the breast cancer books? Sigh...
    Amera
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2007

    Wow, the posting is fast and furious today! Mizsissy, I think my last chemo is April 23, that is if they keep me on the same schedule for the second 4 cycles as the first. Viddie, I also have HER2 and my second 4 cycles will be Taxol and Herceptin. I hadn't heard anything about staying on Herceptin after that but I find they often tell me things on a "need to know" basis. Now I will be sure to ask the doc when I see him. Monday is my last AC/cytoxin so if I can make it through that I will feel the worst is over. I've had a lot more problems with nausea and queasiness on round 3 than 2, which was a comparative breeze. Mizsissy, thanks for compiling everyone's end dates. It's great to celebrate each other's victories. - Skye

  • lucy59
    lucy59 Member Posts: 54
    edited February 2007
    Hi:Last treatment (TCH) May 1. THen just Herceptin until next December.
    Hope everyone is well.
    Prayers, Lucy
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited February 2007
    6 days before my 50th b-day. I'm hoping that I'm awake and somewhat functional for the day although my daughters are already planning some kind of delayed celebration.

    I'm still dealing with the s/e of AC. Pretty much everything that is intake quickly becomes output. That means my bum is sore and irritated which makes me irritated! The onc told me to manage the bowels as best I can and call if I need more help because I don't want cellulitis in my rectum. Oh no I don't want any infection there! I've a few minor mouth sores, my stomach stays in a minor rumble. I'm scared of my change to Taxotere on 3/2. What will that do to me?

    All in all I'm cranky but trying to stay thankful. If this is my life experience right now, I've much to be thankful about - my blessed daughters, lovingly annoying older brothers, extended family members and friends. They all hold me on those dark days.

    And yet some days it does suck.

    I wish there were a cafe we could all meet and share these thoughts. Because the ones who love me so are distressed by my low times and of course, they want to fix it. But these things could be said to this group and there would be an understanding that didn't need further explanation.

    Yikes. I'm rather philosophical this evening. I think I need an Ativan to get ready for bed.
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    O.K. ladies.......we're going to try this again. I just spent 20 minutes writing a post and POOF! I must have pushed the wrong button and the entire thing disappeared. Not a good way to start the day! :-)

    So..let's try again. Good morning Mizsissy and Rebecca, the early morning crew! I hope you're feeling better, Rebecca. Thanks, Mizsissy for compiling the chemo end dates. You have me down for AC and I am doing CMF. I posted my chemo dilemma during my last post for you. It's nice of you to do this for us.

    Amera....Three of my friends got caught in the pregnancy trap during menopause so be careful. Use good protection because as far as I know, the early pregnancy over-the counter tests (and of course morning sickness if you're prone to it) are the only early indications.

    Also, you are so right Amera about how oncologists treat early stage patients. I have to take my chemo on Fridays because I am taking the CMF, which often has fewer side affects, and thus I am not as apt to need him for the first three days after chemo. Thus he takes his "harder-core" patients for chemo during the week because he is less availabe on the weekends and I will probably get through them better without him. It does make sense and I am very fortunate to be the one who "probably won't need him as often" but it also points out the difference in how they treat us. Hey, that would be fine if they then offered reduced rates for those of us who don't need them as much! Don't imagine that they'll consider that, though. lol

    I am attempting to keep myself busy and schedule my naps between my activities. Being a people person, I am finding that this improves my mood and gives me something to look forward to. Today I am hanging out with another single lady in the area. Don't know what we are doing yet, though as we were under another winter freezing rain advisory, so our plans were contingent on the weather. So far, we've escaped the demon and I hope that continues. Maybe a shopping trip and lunch or lunch and an afternoon movie. Hmmmmmmmmm..............

    Iowa Cindy. I wish we were a little closer. I am located in east central Illinois. I imagine we are quite a "drive apart." If not, I'd drive over some day for lunch and a good gab session. I'm in Bloomington, Illinois. Where exactly are you located in Iowa?

    So, everybody have a good day. Do at least one special thing for yourself today. Believe me, it builds the morale! Maybe we should post the special treats we give ourselves each day. It might spark an idea for somebody else!

    Rita
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    Good morning everyone!

    I slept a little late this morning, being saturday and everything, but I did finally had to wrest myself from the warm confines of my bed because our day has to start sometime, and we have to be up at gymnastics at 10. It is a lot of work training a champion!

    I feel a lot better today, I think that my low point on Thursday may have just been that. I do not regret making a big deal, though because I still think it was better to be safe than sorry. I have to say that I was more annoyed with the office staff than my actual Dr, though. They were the ones who restricted my access to care and treated me like I was an idiot. When I finally did get in to see my Dr, I felt much better. My onc is a wonderful, compassionate man. He is very quiet, and almost never smiles, but he has a MISSION, and his mission is to cure each and every patient that walks in his door. He took me seriously, and did not make me feel like I made a big deal about nothing. Maybe next time I need care like that I should go into the office unannounced and give the receptionist a sputum sample

    I definately agree with you ladies about this experience. This whole thing is SOOOOOO surreal...I often say that it seems like it is all a bad dream. Cancer, after all, is the thing that happens to the person down the road...somebody's aunt....somebody else. Well, my sisters, this time it WE are that someone. How strange life is. It is also true that it is different for us to experience it than it is for the onc to treat it. They see it everyday, they know things that we do not REALLY accept in the bottom of our souls...that it WILL be ok in the end. They see it everyday, after all. They see people like us walk in crying and sick, and then they continue to see them for years later, coming back...healthy...for their yearly checkup. In some ways the surreality of it can be considered a good thing I think.

    I have to go make muffins for my kids...I will check in later. Happy Saturday!

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