Radiation May 2019

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  • edj3
    edj3 Member Posts: 2,076
    edited June 2019

    Well . . . I go to bed at 8 every night too. But I get up at 3:30 AM! So she may just be wired like me

  • Haliday
    Haliday Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2019

    i have had some zingers. Psychosomatic? Hahaha. All pain is processed in our brain regardless of its source. And it is REAL. I have been going to bed about an hour or two earlier myself. It is not the radiation, per se methinks, but the pressure of the 1 hour drive each way coupled with the treatments ON TOP of work that, if I don’t do, it doesn’t get done. Prioritizing has never been more important. It all feels real to me and I pride myself on being a “never sick, never tired” kind of person, a pride I am reluctantly letting go of

    Sleep is my favorite drug. . .and then we will see what happens when I start the Arimidex in June (I know, a different thread)

    Restful Sunday to all—I plan to stay in my sticky-topped, greasy jammies all day.

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2019

    Hi all...

    Well I've finished 9 treatments and no issues yet...no redness and I haven't been tired. We'll see what week 3 brings me. I put on the steroid cream right after treatment...after doing the aquaphor during the day and then at night at before bed. I've not had any 'zingers' some of you spoke of, but perhaps it's because I had the bilateral Mx last year with reconstruction, so nerves aren't what they used to be in that area.

    I do like the 3:40pm treatment time much better than the morning time...it's nice to go home right afterwards, rather than heading to work on my work days. On Tuesday of last week, the first day of beginning the 3:40 time, I entered the back waiting room and found 4 women laughing up a storm! I told them the afternoon group was much livelier than the morning group! They were hysterical...all waiting for treatment because the office was running...wait for it...an hour and a half behind that day! Yeppers...I was supposed get treatment at 3:40, but went back at 5:15pm. But here's what's true...no one was complaining or angry or mad...we all just chatted and laughed the entire time, and thoroughly enjoyed our time together...sitting in our pink robes. Life is good when surrounded by good energy and kind people.

    And...Friday, I made the decision to begin riding my bike to treatment! It's only 3 miles away, so the 6 mile round trip is a perfect way to frame some fresh air and nature surrounding my appointments. I'll be doing that every day, weather permitting.

    I'm doing yoga and stretching every day, and began PT...determined for this radiation NOT to mess up my reconstruction. Been spending the day in a big t-shirt with no bra and aquaphor all over my boob, you know the drill!

    Will keep y'all updated...good luck everyone and hang in there!


  • MissouriCatLady
    MissouriCatLady Member Posts: 977
    edited June 2019

    Such enthusiasm here, thank you! I've had one treatment, and you guys give me hope! Haliday, I went ahead and started my Arimidex early and, so far, so good. Do not fret too much on what you read. Barbjc, those bike rides sound absolutely wonderful, enjoy that! Best wishes to everyone.

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    I've finished 13 of my 16 treatments now, so just 3 to go next week and 4 boosts after that. I started to get redness on the treated breast after treatment 10. It only seems to happen in the evening of the treatment and sometimes it's a bit itchy. I use aloe for that and it helps. It seems that when I sleep, the next morning it feels much better. It'll be interesting to see how it goes this weekend with a break. This is the first full 5 day treatment week I've had as my first two weeks were 4 days per week.

    How are you ladies doing with your treatment?

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2019

    Hi ladies!

    Thanks for all the comments, so helpful to know we're not alone on this!

    I've completed 14 of 33 treatments and so far no major issues. I'm not tired at all, I really think biking to/from treatments has boosted my energy! So far my skin is just slightly pink but no itching. I do feel tighter on left side pec muscle but PT is helping with that.

    Happy weekend to all!

    Enjoy the break:)

  • Haliday
    Haliday Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2019

    A restul day for hair cut and color, pedicure and grocery shopping having finished 9 of 16 rads. Still no redness but slight burning feeling and still nauseated within an hour of each treatment. And itchy. Slathering Eucerin three times a day, front and back.

    Was reading the April rads thread and got some domeboro soak packets in case blister and peeling start. So many different skin reactions from that group of women within 1-2 weeks AFTER treatment. .

    Also, I asked and learned the rads are hitting about 1cm of my lungs—missing heart completely as the deep breath-holds are intended. The images were interesting (i took a pic with my cellphone). The yellow lines are the radiation field Happy weekend!

    image

  • edj3
    edj3 Member Posts: 2,076
    edited June 2019

    Glad you shared that image--I'm doing the deep inspirational breath hold too and was curious where the field lands.

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2019

    Wow thanks for that image Haliday! I have that on my list to ask when I see the radiation oncologist on Tuesday...did the techs just show you that or your rad oncologist?

    I'm still biking to treatment everyday! Today I didn't bike or exercise and I feel really tired so maybe the biking is helping me...I haven't felt tired until today. My skin is so far ok, not itchy at all...just slightly pink right after treatment but that fades after i apply steroid cream and aquaphor!

    Ready to take on week 4, we got this ladies!!

    Stay Mighty!

    barb:

  • Haliday
    Haliday Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2019

    the tech took me to his console. And let me take the pics!

  • Haliday
    Haliday Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2019

    Ladies, out of curiosity, would you share your radiation dosage? Mine is 266 centigrays x 16 treatments with no boosts. (I had to ask). Learning about the details comforts rather than scares me. If that is not true for you, just pass!

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    I wonder what my radiation dosage is. Maybe I'll ask today, which is my LAST full breast treatment of 16. Yay! But I still have 4 boosts afterwards. Two this week and then Mon and Tues next week and I'm finished. I do have an itchy pinkish breast now, but it's not too bad and seems to recover overnight a bit (and this past weekend). The pinkness seems to stick around more starting this monday which was treatment #14. So I am wondering what the effect will be when I just do boosts now. My incision was very far to the outside, almost to the point of not really being part of my breast (but there are still ducts there) - almost in my armpit, right at the outside edge, so my main breast will not receive radiation after today, so it should begin to heal.

    Although I am concerned that others who breezed through this get more symptoms AFTER they are finished. I'm hoping this is not the case as I really want to just not think about this anymore and just live my life! But I know I will have to go to an MO about doing the anti-hormone treatment. My estrogen progesterone was 100% for both. Although the calculations showed only a 2% benefit of using hormone treatment (but the percentage was not taken into account - it was just E and P positive as the criteria). I can't take tamoxifen because of a history of endometriosis so it would be the AI's. I also may be in menopause. I took a progesterone medication for 7 years for endo and didn't have a period. So when I stopped in Feb. (due to cancer diagnosis) I got ONE period in March and then nothing after that. I'm almost 54 years old. I also need a new MO as I moved since I saw that previous one (he's one hour away now). So I guess I still will have to think about this stuff.

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    Ok, I did my last whole breast treatment and asked about the dose. Mine is also 2.66 (in grays, not centigrays) and the total for the 16 is about 42.5. I looked it up and it's the standard dosage. I have 4 boosts at 2.5 grays each and that adds another 10 grays to the total treatment. So mine is the same as yours, Haliday, except I'm doing boosts afterward too.

  • Elephant
    Elephant Member Posts: 88
    edited June 2019

    Hi Spiralforest: I was one of those who breezed through the rads with no symptoms or side effects. After I finished the rads, I did get a little pink and itchy but it was very minor and went away pretty quickly. Hopefully you will not get any symptoms after you are done with the rads.

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2019

    Hi all!

    I will ask next tuesday at my doc appt what my dose is... I do know he told me that he was going to give the same cumulative dose as a 4 1/2 week treatment but he was going to give me less dose per day over 6 1/2 weeks because I have the breast reconstruction implants and we're trying not to affect the tissue around it… So far so good with that I've been doing massage and going to PT and I have had just minor tightness but that goes away with stretching and massage.

    hopefully we can all be like Elephant reported and no major issues!

    Spiralforest, glad you are almost done! I had my 17th today of 33, my last one is July 3… so far so good no itchiness and just mildly pink but that seems to fade ...

    As for the hormone treatment I also will be going on that. They wanted me to go on it last year after I had the bilateral Mx but I chose not to. So now since I had a recurrence I need to go on it. Since uterine cancer runs in my family I just had an appointment to talk about a hysterectomy (i'll be going on tamoxifen and that can increase the chance of uterine cancer)... I think I will be getting that done in September…the DaVinci method of hysterectomy which is supposed to be not much downtime only about two weeks and a much easier surgery than it used to be! I'm 53 years old and they did an FSH test because I thought I was done with menopause but then I started spotting in April and they did this FSH (follicle-stimulating hormone) test and it looks like I'm nowhere near through menopause... therefore it's tamoxifen for me. They also did a bone density test and it looks like I have a lower bone density so the AI's wouldn't have been good for me anyways. I'm actually dreading having another surgery this year but hopefully then I can be done once and for all ! I'll go on the tamoxifen after my radiation, have the hysterectomy in September so I don't have to worry about the tamoxifen getting me uterine cancer and then I'll be done… I am so tired of all these surgeries and treatments but trying to stay positive and move forward and enjoy life !

    hugs and good vibes to you all!

    and yes I'm still riding my bike to treatment every day… There were 20 mile an hour winds the other day which wasn't that enjoyable but I just started laughing because it was so hysterical… Tomorrow it's supposed to rain so we'll see what happens!

    gnite all

    barb:

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    I had my first boost today and I was mistaken about how they work. I assumed that they would ONLY radiate the area where the tumor was, which is on the very outside edge of my breast towards the armpit. So I thought my breast tissue was not going to be radiated at all anymore except for that small spot. Well, they still radiate you from 3 points (3 directions), so there is one that is from the left side so it goes through my breast still from one side to the other. I almost thought they were giving me the wrong treatment and asked them about it afterwards! They explained that they do 3 points because all of the radiation in one spot is too much for the skin, but the diameter is much, much smaller than before. I just felt a bit disappointed as I thought my breast would get a breast from being radiated so much. Well, I guess part of it will have a break. Poor thing. I was also hoping they would stop drawing on me with sharpies, but no such luck.

    For the whole breast radiation, they shot it from two points only. I swear this boost seemed like a slightly longer treatment than that (time-wise and from 3 points). Although they did tell me that it was slightly less radiation each treatment than the main treatment.

    Well, Barb, I road my bike to my treatment today. It's nice to do that, although it's only the third time I've done it. It takes about 30 min for me. Otherwise, I take the metro train and then walk 15 min (one way).

    About the hormone treatment, I will see what is best for me, but I can't see the tamoxifen being something I can take as it actually increases free estrogen in your body and that is really bad for endometriosis. I had it grow in my liver in 2005 and had to have half my liver removed, so I can't risk that. So hopefully my bone density is ok. It was when I was 32! LOL I actually had a DEXA scan back then as I worked in the field of osteoporosis research (as a research coordinator) and in a demonstration of the equipment, I volunteered to be scanned. My MO agreed with me that tamoxifen wouldn't work for me. Well, I guess I'll get a scan and an FSH test and go from there!

    Good luck to everyone and may your pinkness keep fading! :)

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    Two more boosts to go on Monday and Tuesday. Although I thought it would be less of an effect from the boosts, it seems to be the same more or less. It gets pinker and sometimes itchy a few hours after the treatment.

    Also the fatigue started two days ago. It's worse today. I feel really lethargic. Although I noticed that it can come and go a bit. The feeling can pass and I feel normal for a while. Ugh. Not pleasant. And I have to move in two weeks too. I hope that I am not feeling like this when I do.

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    How are all you ladies doing with your treatments? I'm done! Today was my last boost. I feel much better than I did on Saturday when I last posted here. I have not gotten the fatigue again and there is much less pinkness. So overall it has improved.

    I don't have any pain or major skin changes. Just itchiness sometimes and a little pinkish/tan in the area radiated.

    On the menopause front, I don't have it yet as I got another period a few days ago. Ugh. I was hoping for natural menopause. Last one was almost 3 months ago. Oh well. I guess I will have to take lupron then.

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2019

    Congratulations spiralforest on being done! Wooo hooo!! did you get to ring a bell at the doctors office? We have a bell in the waiting room and when we are completed and have the final day of radiation treatment we get to ring the bell :-)

    And I'm glad that you didn't have any major issues. So far so good for me I finished my 21st of 33 treatments today I'm starting to get a little reddish pink spots in one area but nothing too bad I get a little pinkish but then it seems to fade after I put on the creams. still riding my bike every day to and from treatment and have not been tired yet .

    Yeah I know the feeling about the menopause thing because I hadn't had my period since last July 2018 and then suddenly got one in April of this year!

    congrats again!


  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2019

    No, there wasn't a bell to ring at the end. I didn't see my doctor today as he is not available on tuesdays, so I saw him yesterday. Maybe the bells are only common the the US? I'm in Canada. But I did hear people talk about them on this board.

    Good luck with the rest of your treatment! For me the next step is to see the onc again (or rather be referred to a new one since I moved to another city) to do the anti-hormone treatment. My lump was very highly hormonal at 100% for E and P.

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2019

    How's everyone doing? I am now super itchy and it's driving me crazy. No creams or aloe help...i found that taking 3 ibuprofen decreases the itch. Ordered Miaderm, anyone use that

  • Haliday
    Haliday Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2019

    Ugh, i have some itching but doing remarkably well. 1 1/2 weeks since treatment ended. A few blisters and slight itching but not even too red. Just brownish nipple and freckles. Pleasantly surprised. Biggest thing has been fatigue. Waiting for it to lift. But still incredibly tired.

    How bout the rest of our May crew?

  • spiralforest
    spiralforest Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2019

    I'm doing well. It's no longer pinkish, which happened in the afternoon/evening, it seems) and the "vampire breast syndrome" (as I call it - sensitive to sun exposure) seems to have stopped. It happened even with a T-shirt covering the area (plus a bra or camisole), although the upper chest portion would only have one layer of fabric over it (small area). So it seems almost normal again, but once in a while, it'll itch (mostly in the nipple area and upper portion), but I'll put on cream (same one I've been using the whole time- Green Beaver Day Cream) and it seems to relieve it. I haven't had the fatigue again. That happened only once really, when I was almost finished. It's been two weeks now post treatment.

    It was really itchy at the end of treatment, Barb. But it seems like it slowly decreases a week after you're finished. Seems like that is a common side effect.

    I just hope that it stays normal and doesn't come back months like I see on some threads on here. Makes me worried, so maybe I just shouldn't read those threads!

  • Barbjc
    Barbjc Member Posts: 28
    edited August 2019

    Hope everyone is having a good summer!

    How did everyone finish up!? My last week of RADS with the boosts and the week after was horrible on my skin...my entire breast turned purple/dark red and began to blister...

    The only thing that saved me was a prescription for Xeroform medicated gauze...it’s used on burn victims and i’m telling you it was: Complete relief and I noticed an immediate healing beginning...I would put the moist pad over my breast, then a non stick gauze pad over that, and then a comfy bra. I used these 2x/day for about 3 weeks and it completely healed my skin. I am back to normal with no skin damage.

    Good luck to all

  • Haliday
    Haliday Member Posts: 38
    edited August 2019

    Two months after radiation. My nipple is still a little scaly and discolored. But other than now being a mismatched B cup to my right C cup due to lumpectomy, I am doing well. Still have some fatigue, though. Naps and early bedtimes.

  • penny22
    penny22 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2019

    Hi all, I also had 25 rounds of radiation starting on May 23 and I wish I'd thought to seek out this message board!!! How's everyone doing? My last round was June 27. It's early September and I'm still getting some painful twinges and the muscle under my arm is a little tight, but the skin has healed up well. I'm still working through some fatigue but I can tell it's getting better. I hope everyone's doing well. :)

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