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  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited May 2019
    Wow! This has been the worst month for me. My Scans cam back with mets exploding in my liver. Been sick as a dog the whole month of May, culminating with having my gallbladder removed. Home yesterday after 5 days in the hospital.

    I am hoping someone here can explain
    A: why my pee is bright orange?
    B: will the Xeloda will help me feel better?
    C: are the masses in my liver (surgeons words) what is making me feel so sick?

    Tia
    Raine
  • Lucia42
    Lucia42 Member Posts: 63
    edited May 2019

    Hi Raindrop, I heard Xeloda is supposed to work very well for liver mets. You've had liver mets since 2014? That is great but I'm sure absolutely NO consolation when you're faced with progression.. thinking of you

    lucia

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited May 2019

    I had a small spot in my liver on my July 2018 scans. No change in October or January, April they were innumerable. I could tell my MO was disappointed, but the Ibrance and Faslodex worked great until they didn’t.

  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited June 2019

    Raindrop There is a ton of information on the "How are people's doing with liver mets? Thread. You'll find lots of answers there. I've had liver mets for 2 1/2 years, Failed IF, AA and am now on X, third cycle. Find out if it's working in June. I also post on X thread and on local treatments thread, y90, etc.

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2019

    I might be a little touchy, but I am having quite a lot of pain and had trouble getting through so many pages on those threads. Thank you for responding to my post.

    Raine
  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited June 2019

    That's understandable. Did you know you can put in one person's name and look at past posts for that person only?

    Ask away. I cannot answer all, only my experience. I'm very much a y90 fan because it made my numerous liver mets inactive for 18 months.

    It is hard not to get discouraged, depressed when progression occurs. Each of us is so different in how we respond to TX. My encouragement came from ladies on this forum. The general public and friends seem to say ignorant stuff like oh, honey you're gonna be just fine. They don't have a clue how it feels to have " liver monsters" growing inside them. It's scary as ----! Coping is key. Knowledge is key. Laughter is key.( That's why I call them liver monsters). Some think that's silly, actually I like to be silly. Hahaha it lightens a serious subject.💞

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2019

    do you have much pain from your liver mets? It seems to me equally divided, but I cannot figure out why. I have scans again in July or August. I just started the Zeloda on Thursday, though. I don’t think that the pain medicine is helping at all. Just making me dumber and duller

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited June 2019

    Rainedrop, I had an "explosion" when Ibrance/Faslodex/Aromasin stopped working for me. In one scan, I had no evidence of active disease (I had tumors but they were all metabolically inactive), 3 months later, 70% of my liver was mets. I went on to take Xeloda next and my liver was back to no evidence of active disease again in 3 months time by my next PET scan. Xeloda worked better than any other medication for me. My liver has never been that bad again since then, which was over 3 years ago. Don't get scared about the post Ibrance "explosion". It has been my observation that many people suffer a major explosion when Ibrance fails. I think it has something to do with the aggressive nature of the pathway the cancer uses to work around Ibrance/hormone therapy.

    I sometimes have liver pain from growing mets or have a generalized discomfort when the liver is enlarged and putting pressure on the capsule that contains the liver. However, I seem to have a bit more pain when I start a new treatment and the liver mets are shrinking. Everyone certainly is different as far as liver pain goes. Do you think some of the pain is caused from the gallbladder removal? Your procedure was pretty recent!

    As for orange pee, before jumping to conclusions, you may want to significantly increase your water intake to rule out that it is caused by simple dehydration. When my liver or belly hurts, I unknowingly stop drinking as much water.

    Hang in there. This all sucks but there is hope and I think Xeloda will help you a lot.

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2019
    I woke up yesterday looking 8 months pregnant.

    I pretty much sailed through my first 4 years. No pain, to speak of, and just inconvenient se from Ibrance.

    It’s so encouraging to think I might feel normal again.
  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited June 2019

    Raindrop. I can show you pics of me when I looked like I had a right-sided baby bump( I'm 71). It looked the worst after my y90's. The liver gets angry when it's messed with, I think. It must swell as a response an alien invasion of y90 or X trying to kill tumors. But, surprisingly, for me, it didn't cause much pain. When I do have pain, it's in my right shoulder blade area, referred pain. During my six months of no effective TX my pain was more noticeable. I tried taking more of my tramadol but it just made me hyper weird. I'm allergic to most other pain meds.

    I believe as X starts working your swollen belly will decrease and your also your pain. I don't know what pain med you take but I do know that some meds make people feel much worse than the pain itself. Ask your MO.

  • Novagirl
    Novagirl Member Posts: 123
    edited June 2019

    My dear friend that I met at LBBC conference is recently diagnosed with MBC to liver. She is on Ibrance/faslodex. She had to take a break on Ibrance due to low ANC when she restarted she went to 100 mg of Ibrance. She has not been on the medication for three months yet so no scans.

    She’s been in so much pain. Last night she went to ER. Tumors are growing so Ibrance isn’t working( I guess she had scans while in the hospital last night).

    Ha this happened to anyone? Did you stay on Ibrance? What do you think should be the next line of therapy from your treatment experience?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you:-)

  • grrifff
    grrifff Member Posts: 104
    edited June 2019

    Rainedrop, your 8 months pregnant comment reminded me of my stomach when I found out I had ascites. My liver has diffuse mets and it caused fluid to build up in my peritoneal cavity. I gained 10 lbs in a week and 5 each week thereafter for a month. Suddenly my 170lb body weighed 200!!! I'm not sure if you've noticed any weight gain but if you do you should let you oncologist know. I know have a Pleurx drain in my abdomen and I drain 1,000mls in the morning and another 1,000mls at night. It's the only way to stay comfortable. I hope you get some answers and relief. I freaked out when I found out it was in my liver but I'm doing well on Eribulin for now 🤞🏻-Jill

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2019
    Went to the ER and they admitted me for observation. They have the pain under control. I think they are going to drain the fluid from my abdomen.
  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited June 2019

    That's good, Rainedrop, that they'll drain the fluid and that your your pain is controlled. Sounds like you did the right thing.

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited June 2019

    My wife had ascites caused by her liver mets. It took a while but xeloda got it under control and the ascites slowly went away. In the meantime she had a drain installed so we could drain her ascites at home. They can diagnose ascites with either an MRI or ultrasound.

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2019

    They want to wait a couple more weeks before deciding on a drain. Seeing if the Xeloda and the different diuretic help. Crossing my fingers

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited September 2019

    finally got paracentesis in August! They drained off 10 liters. I called it my alien abortion, as I am sure there were triplets in there. That was about 3 weeks ago and I am back to alien babies, but maybe only twins. The worst thing for me is shortness of breath. When they drained it my intracostal muscles hurt so bad I didn’t want to take deep breaths.

  • Kayla250
    Kayla250 Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2019

    wow, it took from June to August to finally drain fluid? That must have been horrible. I have just started to get a fluid build up and have been wondering how long they wait. Last CT stated small volume ascites, I don’t feel it and they are not worried about it but I was curious.

    I hope you’re able to find relief for your breathing some how

  • Rainedrop
    Rainedrop Member Posts: 70
    edited September 2019

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