Radiation February 2019

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  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited March 2019

    Tomorrow is my 25th of 28!! My boob is very red, bordering on neon. Some of it is dry/peeling, just like from a bad sunburn. But my skin is intact and all in all, it is totally tolerable. I just went out for lunch w two friends and didn't think about my boob once. Throughout I have used the right creams (Camwell was my favorite for soothingness, but the steroid ointment my RO prescribed has been the best for reducing the burn). Domeboro is an astringent you can use as a compress that was very relieving and it helps the peeling process turn over new skin.

    I was very afraid of having horrible skin reactions because my skin is extremely sensitive and fair, but it is definitely not worse than a couple of bad sunburns I remember from my teen years. Lately I do have some nerves-hooking-up pain that I I assume is rads-related, due to inflamed tissue. But it may also be plain old post surgical nerve zingers. Either way I have only taken anything once (benadryl for itch relief/ to sleep - worked perfectly).

    Mostly I can just ignore it, and if it's ignorable I consider myself very lucky!

  • Elephant
    Elephant Member Posts: 88
    edited March 2019

    Santabarbarian: I also get those twinges, but I think that I had them before starting rads and that they are more due to the surgery. My MO said that the sensitivity around the surgery area could last for a long time.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited March 2019

    Thanks for the reassurance... I am seeing the RO today and will mention it, but I am pretty sure it's normal.

  • mrsEO
    mrsEO Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    santabarbarian, I've got the "zinger" pain too and my dr says it is completely normal and part of healing. I've been told it could last for a few months but agree it seems a little worse now that I'm well into my rads treatments. I'm getting more uncomfortable each day, lots of sensitivity and itching along with the zingers. Today is 18 out of 20, I'm almost done and cannot wait for the healing to begin!

  • Mymomsgirl
    Mymomsgirl Member Posts: 174
    edited March 2019

    So question for my radiation buddies, it has been almost 5 weeks since I wrapped up. The redness was gone after about 1-2 weeks, but interestingly enough it has turned into a tan...lol. I have gotten sunburned in the past and it has turned into a tan, this issue is when I tan it lasts for months. Anyone having their lines fade? Also I've noticed several freckles pop up (or maybe they are age spots) in that area and some have raised up a little bit. I was going to email the nurse that works with my RO and ask her but I thought I would throw it out there.

  • mrsEO
    mrsEO Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    Mymomsgirl, my RO told me that the tan could last for up to a year post-treatment and that it is completely normal. Not sure about the freckles but I'm already getting those and my RO didn't seem concerned when I mentioned it.

  • SuefromSydney
    SuefromSydney Member Posts: 126
    edited March 2019

    Hello all, and thanks for sharing in this thread. Congratulations and quick healing to all who have finished already!

    I started rads in late Feb, and have now had 17/25. I'm now getting to the sorry-for-myself not-just-red, getting-pretty-sore-and-itchy stage. Today I'm working from home, topless, and it is so much more comfortable. Just a couple of months ago, topless meant going without a head covering! Lucky it's warm early autumn here. A real problem, though is keeping the radiated area which includes my clavicle area, out of the sun. I has become really sensitive and I just need to cover it completely. With something super soft. That's a huge reduction in wardrobe options right there:-) It's the detail that gets you, isn't it? The car seatbelt now rubs in the wrong place, so I'll arrange something soft to shield that. And my beautiful grandchildren who are small and express their love very physically! I am so in awe of people who managed to teach through this.

    The whole radiation treatment process is remarkably hard emotionally. That came as something of a shock - I'm pretty resilient normally and I really did not expect it to hit me so hard. It didn't help that a couple of mis and poor communications early on undermined my trust in the process. I am so grateful for a couple of ladies on similar schedules who I see in the waiting room most days. We've been a great encouragement for each other.

    Thanks again to all of you for sharing so much of your advice and experience! [Back to drafting this risk management policy]

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited March 2019

    Hello everyone. Just an update for you. I had my lumpectomy, node biopsy and IORT radiation. All went fine. If anything more severe shows on pathology will probably need additional rads. At least there is that option. Only "negative" was that they had me waiting 2 1/2 hours in the holding area. My procedure was over in about an hour and a half. I am home now and feeling pretty good. I have a rx for oxycodone that helps. I was able to take a shower this morning. Wearing my surgical bra with sports bra underneath it. Now have to wait for pathology reports on everything. Next week I will find out. Blessings to all and thanks for all of your responses and advice.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited March 2019

    28/28, and I am done with rads. I am very, very happy to be finished. My rads experience has been very good, but I am definitely ready to stop! I have been at a dead run since being diagnosed last July, so its very nice to be finished with treatment!!! AT LAST!!

    My rads center plays the "Rocky" music when you leave the treatment wing and go back out into the lobby, after the last treatment! Everyone hugs you, from the nurses to the techs to the front desk people. It was so sweet! My boob is red and sore, my skin peeling, but I feel wonderful!


  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited March 2019

    Congrats to you, Santabarbarian. I bet it feels great to be finished with rads. Funny how they play Rocky music when you're finished. I can just picture that. I hope that your peeling, redness and soreness subsides soon.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited March 2019

    Thank you! - you know, funnily enough, I really appreciated that Rocky music! It was sweet and so validating. We walk such a hard road during treatment -- it's nice to get some triumphant music when we get to the end!

    The "Seven" cream someone at Rads told me about is providing a ton of relief. My scaly redness already looking better and I bet in 2 weeks it will be gone.

    Courage to all of you still on the road -- and realize that triumphant music will be playing soon!

  • SuefromSydney
    SuefromSydney Member Posts: 126
    edited March 2019

    congratulations Santabarbarian! I do hope you didn’t have to run up those stairs, though! Glad the healing is going well x

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited March 2019

    congrats on finishing santabarbarian! You are amazing. So happy you get to move forward

    Checking in am hoping you all are well I am 3 weeks post Rads. My coloring is pretty much back to normal but I still apply the hydro Cortizone and lotion every day. My first week back to work was a bit rough as my energy was low. The 2nd week was great. It’s so nice to be getting my energy back and get back into life

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2019

    Hello ladies!! I haven’t been on much and that is a good thing! I dohave an issue though and thought I would put it here first: I recovered from rads pretty easily but about a week ago, which is almost 8 weeks after the final treatment, the muscles in my chest and underarm have gotten very very tight and painful. I stretch and massage the area, but it’s so tight and painful. Is this normal? Anyone else have this??

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited May 2019

    Misha I am sorry to hear that! I think there is something called post radiation fibrosis, could that be a match? If so there is a drug you can take to lessen it. Pentoxifylline. I'd call your RO. and ask about it.... I hope you find an answer soon.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited May 2019

    Misha I am sorry to hear that! I think there is something called post radiation fibrosis, could that be a match? If so there is a drug you can take to lessen it. Pentoxifylline. I'd call your RO. and ask about it.... I hope you find an answer soon.

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2019

    Yeah, I feel like things have gotten tighter recently too, despite stretching and yoga. I'm seeing a PT tomorrow for unrelated issues but plan to ask her about that too.

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2019

    Thanks ladies! I looked up the fibrosis thing and am not sure it’s that serious, but like OTMom said, I am stretching and have even returned to the gym and it’s newly tight. Let me know what your PT person says! Have an awesome week

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited May 2019

    Hi. I haven't been on in awhile. Work has been crazy and then I got shingles all over my surgery side and incision it hurt so {replace1}amp;)(? Bad! Misha my PT told that muscles shrink during radiation and they hurt as they redevelop. Maybe that's the case with you

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2019

    Hpfull, that sounds AWFUL! I hope you're doing better. Misha, my PT gave me some stretches and told me to be super consistent with them. She's big on not pushing it too far, but stopping when you feel the first stretch and then over time taking it deeper. I'm also considering some myofascial release massage to see if it helps at all. I can feel the muscles pulling low in my arm, not just the chest and shoulder, so things are definitely tight and unhappy all through that area.

  • PiperKay
    PiperKay Member Posts: 173
    edited May 2019

    I think that I should have started seeing a PT far earlier in this process because every treatment has had some side effect that could have benefitted from some physical therapy starting with surgery. Just in the past month I've been diagnosed with lymphedema though I had developed cording in my armpit and down my arm very soon after surgery in mid-December. It was not made clear to me that cording and lymphedema are related. Otherwise I would definitely have seen a PT when it was first mentioned rather than just doing the stretching on my own to get rid of the cording. By seeing a PT at that point, perhaps I could have addressed the lymphedema earlier and avoided the swelling in my arm.

    I didn't think I was likely to get lymphedema given only a few nodes were removed, but then I was recently reminded that those nodes were unusually large. This suggests that even though they were few in number, they probably did the work of many more.

    And to know now that radiation aggravates and even causes lymphedema makes it even more important to get to a PT at the earliest opportunity to make sure it doesn't get worse. Of course even without lymphedema, radiation affects the muscles directly, causing that tightness.

    So I would say that PT should be recommended or at least discussed thoroughly from the outset, even before surgery if that's your first intervention like it was for me. Before any intervention, probably. My two cents.

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited May 2019

    I totally agree Piper. I don't know why the surgeons don't mention PT. It saved me! I was in so much pain. It was a nurse that suggested the PT. My therapist told me the surgeons think of it as a fail on their part if patients have to do PT. I think it is a win. I mentioned to my surgeon how much it helped and he totally dismissed it. It's really a shame when it is so beneficial for overall well-being

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2019

    HPFULL-Shingles! That sounds horrible. Not what you were expecting I’m sure. Definitely agree that p/t from the start would be beneficial.

    PiperKay-thanks for sharing your story! I had cording in my armpit too, but it, thankfully, didn’t go down my arm as well.

    OTMom-Thanks for passing on what your p/t said. I will do a better job of being consistent. I think I’m going to try some moist heat to relax the muscles as well.

    Prayers for us all and continued healing!

  • Mymomsgirl
    Mymomsgirl Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2019

    Misha I have had the tightness as well. Interestingly enough it kicked in a few weeks ago and was scheduled to see my PS for a follow up so held out for that appointment. She sent me to a PT that specializes in breast surgery patients. I met with her and she talked about how radiation shrinks things for a year. I have some exercises that I'm supposed to do twice a day and she said basically they need to be part of my routine like brushing my teeth. I will also go in once a week for the next month for some massage. A few days later I had a follow up with my RO and he was glad I recognized the tightness early and am going for PT. So as everyone else said you probably need to see a PT. Good news is I can do all the exercises at home.

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2019

    Mymomsgirl-Thanks for your reply! I think you all are right that it’s time for some p/t. I am the type who wants to fix everything on my own and this seems to not be working. I’m really surprised at how tight it got after rads was over. I’m so done with side effects!!

    Hugs to all!

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