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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Fireba,
    What a wonderful way to start your week!!!!!!
    Im so happy that things are more relieved for you...your surgeon sounds like he's a very positive man and thats exactly what you need....
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Today is the day for 1stlite and crystal cat to have their surgeries so all you PGC members send every positive thought to them for their quick recovery and good results...

    Hang in there you two, you will both do fine today

    Hugs
    Jule
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Oooooppsss....guess I am trying to make the week go by faster....tomarrow is the real day for the girls to have their surgeries...

  • PJF42
    PJF42 Member Posts: 24
    edited February 2007
    Great news, Fireba!!! I am just wondering -- is your onco recommending chemo for you because you are so young? I am 42 (turning 43 in April), my bc was er+/pr+ so I know that I'm going to be on tamoxifen. I had a left mastectomy 12 days ago, nodes were clear. I have my 1st appt with my onco tomorrow but I was in the surgeon's office today and I was speaking w/her nurse practioner about treatment options, etc and she said that the onco's usually recommend chemo for us young woman!! Their feeling is that because we are so young, it's better to be aggressive with the treatment now rather than to wait and see what happens. I sort of agree but am afraid to have chemo. Also, if it only increases my survival odds by 1/2 to 1%, is it worth the long term side effects of the chemo itself (ie. cardio-toxicity, bone mass loss, and possibly leukemia)? I'm just curious what your doc may have said to you. I know each of us are different and each case is different but I was just wondering?
    Thanks,
    Pam
  • QueenSansaStark
    QueenSansaStark Member Posts: 207
    edited February 2007

    Fireba: My tumor is 2 CM (at least on ultrasound - surgery may find out differently). That puts me on the borderline, but because of my age - 43 - I was told they routinely recommend chemo, even though I'm ER/PR+++ and HER2-, which in an older woman probably would mean rads and hormone therapy only. With young women, my BC nurse said, they pull out the big guns because we have more years of expected lifespan left.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Hey you two.....Im 46 and I am only have the radiation and taking tamoxiphen...
    My take on this from my Drs. is that...depending on the er/pr, which it looks like both of you are positive, and the her2, which appears you are both neg....means you can request the oncotypedx test that I had done on my tumor to give me some idea of the % that chemo would help me... for me the benefit was too low to make me do the chemo...
    but the other factors that are involved are also the stage and grade of your cancer cells...mine was stage II, grade I....my dr said that mine was a slow growing cancer and that slow growing doesnt not respond as well to chemo as aggressive does.....so make sure you ask ALL the details so that you can make an informed decision on this....

    Jule
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    I think there might have been something about node negative involved with that test too...

  • QueenSansaStark
    QueenSansaStark Member Posts: 207
    edited February 2007
    Jule, thanks! I don't know my nodes yet, of course, but get injected with radioactive dye (yay blue pee! ) later today and surgery tomorrow AM.

    I will ask for the oncotype DX. If chemo makes a difference, I will have it, but if it is only like 1 or 2% and since I am so hormone positive, I don't want to put myself through chemo unless I have to.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Oh ya, blue pee!!!!! I had forgotten that they told me I would pee blue so the next morning I wondered when I put in the blue tank stuff until I remembered...I was a little rum/dummy from the meds....

    My Oncotypedx score was 12, but it showed that there was only a 4% benefit for me...that wasnt a high enough % for me...so choose not to do the chemo.....

    I really think that the test is a very good tool to be used for this if you meet all the requirments. Basically what my Dr. told me was that for years the word cancer has thrown people into a tunnel directly leading to chemo no matter what....now that they have tools to show that maybe the chemo is more harmful than good in some cases its best to wait the time frame so you know more.
    That was the hardest for me.....it took over 3 wks for the results but it was because I was right in the middle of the holiday season....yours wont take as long.

    Hope my rattling makes sense and helps you in some way!!!!!
    Jule
  • fireba
    fireba Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2007
    Hi all! Thanks for the encouraging words. Yes, I definitely have to have the chemo, partly because I'm young (31 next week!) but also because I'm triple negative, so the hormone therapies aren't an option for me. It's going to be 4 months (or maybe a bit longer) of dose dense chemo followed by about 6 weeks of radiation. The other factors involved for me were the size of the tumor (1.7 cm) and the grade 3 status - a nasty little beast, but it seems we found it early.

    But here's another question for all you experts: I don't have ANY family history or bc or ovarian cancer, but because of my age, my cancer center is suggesting I do the BRCA test. If the test was positive, I would choose the preventative mastectomy (probably both breasts). But the test takes about a week, and I'm reluctant to push back my SNB (which would of course push back the chemo). I do have a daughter, so if the test were positive, that would be good information for her later, too. What do you think? Should I do the genetic test now, or wait until after my current cancer treatments are over?
  • beth1225
    beth1225 Member Posts: 1,061
    edited February 2007
    Well, speaking form a non-expert point of view but from one who has had testing....I would check out FORCE, Facing Our Risk of CAncer Empowered. The site is www.facingourrisk.org. They have a lot of info concerning brca1 and brca2 gene mutations. If you do test positive, there are quite a few preventive measures other than the bilat mast. Oh...you are triple neg. I don't know how that will play out. For now, why don't you get in touch with a genetic counselor and see what their take is. Also, run it by your onc. it would be good to knwo for the future generations but every case is different and you need the guidance from the cancer center counselors. They are usually nurse practitioners with RN and MRN degrees.
    Hope I was of some help!
  • GrammyNancy
    GrammyNancy Member Posts: 666
    edited February 2007
    I want to join the PGC!!!! I also was recently dx with bc and had a right mastectomy on Feb 9th! Boy was I scared....operation started at 9 am and I was home in my chair feeling great by 3 that afternoon. It was unbelievable that I could feel so well. I now look a little like a unicorn (cup size c) but that's okay, I've always liked unicorns. Meet with oncologist yesterday and will start chemo on March 6th, having Pet and Muga next week. So the next chapter begins....I am staying positive and I love this site! Thanks to many for the info and experiences you provide.
    Nancy
  • Darcy45
    Darcy45 Member Posts: 55
    edited February 2007
    Just want to encourage all you ladies beginning this journey. It may seem long and hard but it is not impossible. While I was going through treament I always tried to look straight ahead, kind of like tunnel vision. My goal was always to get to the other end of the tunnel.

    Fireba, do what you think feels right deep down and go with that. Our first instinct is usually the right one. Ask your doc if prolonging treatment by one week will significantly make any difference. If it will give you peace of mind then go for it. Blessings to you all!
  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2007
    Like you, fireba, I didn't want to wait on getting my tumors outta there and finding out about my SNB. So while I was still waiting for my BRCA test, I went ahead with the initial surgery. My surgeon knew I planned already to eventually have a bilat. mastectomy. We also put the medi-port in at the time of this lumpectomy surgery, so I think we got a lot done! Now I am ready for chemo - I wanted to get through that before the trauma to my body of mastec. and reconstruction. I'm hoping that going into chemo :intact: so to speak will mean I'm stronger. It also eliminated the several weeks wait for healing. I know that my way is not common, but it's working out for me. My BRCA came back positive, so that simply reinforced my decision for bilat.
    Good luck!
    Lisa
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    1stlite and crystal cat
    my thoughts are with you both today.....post when you feel up to it and let us know how your doing or if you need anything....
    Hugs
    Jule
  • PJF42
    PJF42 Member Posts: 24
    edited February 2007
    Hi Ladies,
    It's me, Pam! I just came back from on 1st visit with my oncologist and she said to me, exactly what I knew she was going to say -- that chemo is recommended because of my age. I'm going to have the oncodx done because I am sort of on the fence. I am stage 1, er/pr+, her2/neu-, node negative, grade 1 to 2. One of my lesions was 1.2cm and the other was 7mm. Because they were 5cm apart in my left breast, I had a mastectomy. The oncologist said the only reason for the chemo is my age. She also said that it would be reasonable for me to decide not to have the chemo because of my staging and grading. She entered all my data into a computer program that projected my 10 year recurrence rate with no tx, hormonal tx and hormonal+chemo tx and basically what it came down to was --- if I just do the hormone tx, my chances of recurrence in 10 yrs would be about 15% but if I added the chemo (which would be 4 months AC followed by 2 months Taxol) then my chance would be lowered to about 8%. I keep going back and forth. I think if it only made a few% points difference then I would lean towards not having chemo but the difference between having chemo and not having chemo is almost 1/2. She says that because my cancer is stage 1 and neg node that the liklihood of it having gotten out elsewhere in my body is low so I could just do the tamoxifen but then I keep thinking, what if it came back in 10 yrs - I would then kick myself for not doing all that I could now!! Right now, I'm leaning towards the chemo (unless my oncodx comes back in my favor) because I think that living the rest of my life wondering if I made the right decision would eat at me more than going thru chemo for 6mos. So, my question to all of you -- is chemo really doable? Can you have somewhat of a "normal" life around it? I don't want to be sick and in my bed all the time. I have 2 boys (11 and 13) that are busy bees and I don't want to miss out on all their stuff for the next 6mos. Sorry if I've rambled but that is sort of how it is all going thru my head right now.
    Thanks,
    Pam
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Pam,
    Take your time, have the oncotest done then you can make a more informed decision that will be right for you....I choose not to have the chemo because when everything was input there was only a 4% benefit for me....I have a huge family history of other types of cancer and I weighed the odds with my oncologist and he agreed that I might be wise to wait on the chemo since slow growing cancers do not respond as well to chemo and with the history I possibly might need the chemo to work better at a later time in my life(praying that may NEVER be the case) but I had to consider everything for me to feel comfortable not doing it.

    You will make the right decision for you...and yes, chemo is very doable...there are tons of people here that have done it....

    hugs
    Jule
  • Chrysalis
    Chrysalis Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2007
    Pam, Your chemo decision is not clear-cut, since there are so many variables. I agree with Jule that you should have the Oncotest to see if that agrees with your doc's projection. For me, chemo was clear-cut, I had to have it, but I can tell you that all of my decisions were ultimately based on the fact that I never wanted to look back and say, "gee, I shoulda, woulda, coulda. I never wanted to feel that I had left any stone unturned, so I picked the most aggressive tx every step of the way. Good luck to you on your decision.

    Can I be the first to add my Friday post for the Positive Girls Club? This week my daughter's high school held an event called "Outrun Cancer" to benefit ACS Relay for LIfe. All of the classes raised money, and the teachers dressed up in silly costumes and ran/walk several laps around the track. I was asked to address the audience as the lead-off speaker, to give a short "inspirational speech" and to thank them for their contributions, etc. I got a standing ovation from about 300 people!! It blew me away. But the very best thing of all was that my daughter (who is 14) was SO proud of me and was beaming ear to ear. That was worth more than everyone standing and clapping. It made my week. I can't wait to read everyone else's positive posts for the week!

    Renee
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Renee,
    Im so glad you started our Positive Friday!!!!!
    What a wonderful experience for you...there is NOTHING better in this world than to feel our children are proud of us or being proud of them...

    Im also excited to see what everyone posts today as their second week of Positive Friday.....

    My positive is that just last night I posted some questions on another site about a 4-wheeler Im looking to purchase and found that an old friend uses that same site....what a surprise it was to get a PM from them....this person was a very important part of my life for awhile so was a little surprised, but a nice warm feeling.

    Looking forward to checking in here today to see what everyones week has brought them ...

    Jule
  • fireba
    fireba Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2007
    Renee, Your positive post brought tears to my eyes! It's strange, but I suddenly feel like I'm crusading for something - not just my own survival, but for all women, including our daughters, sisters, friends. I want to give you a standing ovation, too!

    My positive post is that I started a blog to keep family and friends up to date on my situation as I progress through the many stages of fighting this beast. My brother-in-law suggested it to me because he knows that I love to write and thought it would be therapeutic for me to write about my experiences, as well as practical, so we don't have to tell the same story via telephone 100 times! If anyone wants to stop by my blog, I'll love all the supportive comments I receive there: www.journeybce.blogspot.com

    Sara
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Sara,
    What a wonderful idea...yes I think writing can be theapeutic too....I hated all the phone calls and having to tell the story over and over...thank goodness that has slowed down, now just a few...Im at work this morning but will check your blog a little later...

    Have a wonderful weekend.
    Jule
  • QueenSansaStark
    QueenSansaStark Member Posts: 207
    edited February 2007
    My positive is that my lumpectomy and SNB went well! I had it yesterday, came home, slept and slept and slept, and now I feel stiff and sore, but much better. The worst part of all? Having to fast and thirst for all those hours beforehand. I have even greater respect for those on vision quests.

    I had about 20 people lighting candles, saying prayers, sending Reiki and good energy and one of my dearest and most supportive friends at my side. I felt connected with a Power greater than myself and know all this love is what helped me.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Im glad to hear things went so well for you yesterday...thought about you last night hoping that you were resting well....
    Also makes for a VERY good positive for the week
    Keep resting and take care....
    Jule
  • Chrysalis
    Chrysalis Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2007
    Sara, Your post truly touched my heart! I read your blog, and I can see why you find it so cathartic - you're good at it! I will be sending lots of healing prayers and thoughts to you on Monday when you go in for your surgery.

    Crystal Cat - Congratulations on getting through your surgery - YAY! You'll be feeling even better as the days go on. I'm so glad you were surrounded by love and support - I remember when you were so worried about facing this by yourself. See? You don't have to!

    Happy Weekend to all!

    Renee
  • Esiuol
    Esiuol Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2007

    Count me as one of the Positive Club Members. I just came home today after surgery yesterday to remove axillary lymph nodes and breast re-incision. First surgery was on 2/8/2007 to remove breast mass and sentinel lymph node which was reported as positive. One Jackson Pratt drain was paced in yesterday. Today, I have changed the drain once, and had no problems at all changing it. I'm sooooo positive. How could worry help my situation? Most of all, my strong faith in God and in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has sustained me through it all. God Bless everyone, and stay POSITIVE.

  • GrammyNancy
    GrammyNancy Member Posts: 666
    edited February 2007
    It's so nice to read these postings and know that everyone is so supportive and caring. My positive for the week - had my first visit to medical oncologist this week and left feeling a little dismayed (not warm and cozy), my surgeon was out of the country on vacation, so I just took the bulls by the horn and got some recommendations for other medical oncologist at research institute....called this morning and just received a call back with an appointment next Wednesday. Not sure it will change anything but it sure will make me feel that I taking an active part in this battle.
    Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!
    Peace,
    Nancy
  • Indigoblue
    Indigoblue Member Posts: 274
    edited February 2007
    Accentuate the positive!

    Indi
  • Darcy45
    Darcy45 Member Posts: 55
    edited February 2007
    Hi ladies, my positive this week, I got a REAL hair cut. Eight months out of chemo and I had to get a trim. So, those of you about to embark on the hair loss, IT GROWS BACK. I get even more compliments now then I ever did! Go figure.

    Sara, I will be praying for you. Keep the awesome attitude. Jule, what wonderful words of support you offer.
    Renee, beautiful post. 011307, amen sister.

    All of you ladies are in my thoughts and prayers. Have a wonderful week-end.
  • bandit
    bandit Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2007
    My positive thing this week for me is that I lost two pounds not that much but its a start.Made me feel good and put a smile on my face.My hair is growing back nicely don't need a cut yet its nice to see hair.Must of felt great getting a hair cut again. congrats.All the best to all you ladys love reading your storys been a great help to me.Have a wonderful week.Meet you's back hear next Friday.
  • skeetur
    skeetur Member Posts: 65
    edited February 2007
    Only positive here is I'm one week closer (now less than a week) to mastectomies! Lets get the show on the road already!

    Skeetur

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