Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?

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  • TB90
    TB90 Member Posts: 992
    edited April 2019

    It makes far more sense to ask who I bank with so that they can explain why I may miss a payment.

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  • Springflowers
    Springflowers Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2019

    Haha those are awesome, love your grandmother.

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  • jo6359
    jo6359 Member Posts: 2,279
    edited April 2019

    tb90- so true.

    Alice-love your Grandma. Very funny

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  • SoLinda
    SoLinda Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2019

    So glad to have found this ... There are very few atheists where I live, that is for sure! What makes it much worse is that the cancer hospital that I transferred to 2 years ago forces religion down everyone's throat and it is quite horrific - every time I have gone there and sat in the huge waiting room for hours, everyone is "entertained" by parading padres and nuns, who give speeches about how we will all be "saved" . And then we are all given sugary drinks and white bread with margarine, haha. No matter how many years I have lived here, this is something I never get used to.

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited April 2019

    that sounds awful.

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  • SoLinda
    SoLinda Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2019

    Oh, Spookiesmom - it certainly was! I dread the thought of having to sit through it all again in a few months when I go for my annual checkup! Not very respectful at all! But, looking around the waiting room, it appears that everyone else loves it. I would wear earplugs, but I wouldn't hear when they call my name :-(

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  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited April 2019

    Ugh, that sounds like the waiting room for hell, if such a place existed.

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  • solfeo
    solfeo Member Posts: 838
    edited April 2019

    If any doctor ever asks me if it's difficult to deal with cancer without a god to count on, I think I'll say, "Well, I thought I could count on you!" I'm usually rendered speechless by stupid cancer-related comments, so it's always nice to be prepared and have my comeback ready. I do get asked occasionally about religious preference, but I have never received any push back when I answer 'none.'

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited April 2019

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  • JanetMara
    JanetMara Member Posts: 179
    edited April 2019

    In California,healthcare facilities are mandated to obtain a POLST (PHYSICIAN /PROVIDER ORDERS FOR LIFE SUSTAINING TREATMENT) from a patient or a responsible family member,once they go into a hospital or a SNF with the purpose of having the staff know what to do in case of emergency situation for any patient.There were facilities who were sued for sending patients to ER or do aggressive treatments when the patient wished for a NO CPR or NO ER or HOSPITALIZATIONS. Patients understand better if the STAFF explains,it is mandated by the state and so that the staff would know what to do in case of emergency.

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  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited April 2019

    none of the places I have been in California did this

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited April 2019

    As I understand it, the CA POLST requires a physicians signature or h/her representative. If I come into the hospital etc. without one, what physician is going to sign that form? Looks a bit tricky for folks without a primary care doc. and paper in hand on admission.

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited April 2019

    There are only two religions that I know of that make fun of themselves, Judaism and Buddhism.  Perhaps it's because there are so many atheists who belong to these two groups...

    Sayings of a Jewish Buddha

    If there is no self, whose arthritis is this?

    Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated?

    Drink tea and nourish life; with the first sip, joy; with the second sip, satisfaction; with the third sip, peace; with the fourth, a Danish.

    Wherever you go, there you are. Your luggage is another story.

    Accept misfortune as a blessing. Do not wish for perfect health, or a life without problems. What would you talk about?

    The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single Oy.

    There is no escaping karma. In a previous life, you never called, you never wrote, you never visited. And whose fault was that?

    Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.

    The Tao does not speak. The Tao does not blame. The Tao does not take sides. The Tao has no expectations. The Tao demands nothing of others. The Tao is not Jewish.

    Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. Forget this and attaining Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.

    Let your mind be as a floating cloud. Let your stillness be as a wooded glen. And sit up straight. You'll never meet the Buddha with such rounded shoulders.

    Deep inside you are ten thousand flowers.
    Each flower blossoms ten thousand times.
    Each blossom has ten thousand petals.
    You might want to see a specialist.

    Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness.

    (From the book ZEN JUDAISM by David M Bader)

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  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited April 2019

    ananda - snort! I love these! I'm going to have to get the book!

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited April 2019

    love these!!!!

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  • HikingLady
    HikingLady Member Posts: 650
    edited April 2019

    ananda8 EXCELLENT, thanks so much for posting this list! Hilarious. As I'm reading it silently, a good Yiddish accent is enunciating it all in my brain...very cute!

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  • SoLinda
    SoLinda Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2019

    ananda - just what I needed to read today. Thanks for the laugh!


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  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited April 2019

    Some of those are quite amusing, I’ll be quoting several for sure. Thanks for sharing!

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  • LoveFromPhilly
    LoveFromPhilly Member Posts: 1,308
    edited April 2019

    totally hilarious!!! I love me some good JewBuhumor!!!! 😂😂😂😂

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  • JanetMara
    JanetMara Member Posts: 179
    edited April 2019

    Hi Santabarbarian and jo6359

    Social Workers usually take care of thisif you go to a SNF,

    POLST form can be downloaded online,you can check your preferences (similar to ADVANCED DIRECTIVE) and have it signed by your Doctor or PCP when you see her/him.

    Have a safe EASTER everybody.

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  • JanetMara
    JanetMara Member Posts: 179
    edited April 2019

    SoCalLisa

    Sorry,they did not do what they are supposed to do,we'd been doing it in the last 7 years.

    You can download a form online(it's similar to ADVANCE DIRECTIVE) BUT more simple, you can check your preferences and have it signed by your doctor/PCP.

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  • JanetMara
    JanetMara Member Posts: 179
    edited April 2019

    SoCalLisa

    Sorry,they did not do what they are supposed to do,we'd been doing it in the last 7 years.

    You can download a form online(it's similar to ADVANCE DIRECTIVE) BUT more simple, you can check your preferences and have it signed by your doctor/PCP.

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited April 2019

    Sam Harris on the emergency of life.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTxTCz4Ums&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR33zW4rUXnKNa0um_1ooGnk8pDv5e_gwBLw8quph4qFZLuTMhoPcZ8Nt1E


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  • Springflowers
    Springflowers Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2019

    Thanks for sharing, I started it but will have to wait till after Toronto Maple Leafs beat Boston and raptors beat Orlando lol.

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited May 2019

    I've been noticing a substantial increase in TV programming that either includes god (God Friended Me) in the title or slips reference to god in the programs. I started to watch a comedy program on cable and within the first episode god was mentioned several times. Faith based audiences must love this stuff. Not surprisingly, I do not. Luckily, I control the remote and after I gave some of them a try, I find the material saccharin. Any other thoughts on faith based programming. Maybe there needs to be some rating about religious content like there is about TV-MA for mature audiences. The sugary loaded content might be listed in terms of the sugar load related to diabetes. Healthy, prediabetic, diabetic, comatose.

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  • pingpong1953
    pingpong1953 Member Posts: 362
    edited May 2019

    My sister was wondering out loud why there are so many fantasy-themed movies out there. She concluded that it's escapism for people who just can't handle the current state of affairs in the world today. Perhaps God is making a comeback for the same reason, although if you ask me it's religion that's led to the current state of affairs in the world!

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  • JMouse
    JMouse Member Posts: 78
    edited May 2019

    ananda8, thank you for sharing those sayings. I just wandered into this thread and saw them... and I read them to my mom and we hooted with laughter. Ahhh, that really felt great. :D

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  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited May 2019

    I find nothing more annoying than to start a book that looks interesting and find out several chapters in - or even worse half way through - that the entire book turns on god's help or god's grace or characters only become valid when they pledge their faith or are "saved". Mystery or romance or travel or whatever are masquerading as religious dissemination. I have always been the kind of person who finishes any book I start. Not anymore.

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  • HikingLady
    HikingLady Member Posts: 650
    edited May 2019

    I love this conversation, especially your suggestion for "Warning! Saccharine ridiculousness ahead!" magiclight!

    My husband is fond of those stories where "everyone else died in the crash or the catastrophe, except one person, because God saved ME/HER/WHOMEVER." He likes to point out that God actually must have very bad aim, since the goal was obviously to kill the whole group. A credibility gap for the whole omnipotence claim. Anyway, there's obviously no logic in these religious assertions.

    And, in the example MinusTwo mentions, why does a good outcome have to be ascribed to a god swooping in and blind faith in something unknown, rather than a values-led, morality-inspired and fully actualized life, good choices, ethics, etc, which are widely available to everyone, not just people with religion. Or, just random luck. This illogical faith viewpoint reinforces the notion that we're all little children, at the mercy of the puppet master. And, what a mean one he can be! Weirdly sparing some and inflicting damage on others.

    This reminds me of another pet peeve of mine. We go to a particular antique store at the coast once or twice a year. I love the stuff in the store. However, the signs are super Christian. Be saved, Believe in Him, etc. And, the background music in that store! Oh, my. It's one of those radio stations that plays Just Jesus tunes. Kind of wannabe folk-ish and Kind of Country, with insipid chords and repetitive soul-saving lyrics. On a 1-10 scale of good music I give it a -4. I really like the store's antiques, so I usually do go in, but the whole experience is kind of nauseating for me. I think my biggest objection is the pretentious righteousness, and the idea that they have to spread their beliefs into my eyes and ear space. I probably should vote with my feet on this one, but I guess I'm practicing tolerance, walking around that store....

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited May 2019

    Hiking lady...tolerance is one of those words that, to me, that can represent an act of courage or virtue on one hand and and an attitude more akin to tolerate on the other. More often than not, I'm not sure if I am at one end of that spectrum or the other. Am I being tolerant because I respect the other person's right to their opinion or do I tolerate or just put up with the other person's opinion. In your example of walking into a store displaying lots of religious platitudes, I can see myself voting with my feet and walking out as I do not like the feeling of being nauseated :) In today's world, I think that those folks whose lives are driven by religious platitudes cannot even tolerate differences and want to legislatively fight to have only their religious beliefs codified in the laws of the U.S.

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