Oncotype score of 22

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Conjuring1
Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10

Hi,

I had a bilateral mastectomy on 1/16/19, stage 1 invasive in left and stage 0 dcis in right.

My Oncotype score came back as 22. My oncologist recommended chemo and HT since I am under 50 (I’m 44). After almost an hour of me crying she finally told me that instead of chemo I could do ovarian suppression or have my ovaries removed. I’m definitely leaning towards the latter as I really don’t want to do chemo.

Has anyone been in the same situation (stage, score and age). What did you choose and how are you feeling about it now?

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  • Toyamjj
    Toyamjj Member Posts: 151
    edited March 2019

    Hi,

    I was diagnosed right after Christmas and had my lumpectomy with two nodes removed on Jan 30th. I am 44 yrs old stage 2 and thankfully it has not spread, my score is 22. I began crying when she told me my score because at the time I thought that my score was extremely high. As I was crying I said I don't want to do chemo and she then said the she was not recommending chemo and that I was in that "grey area" and that she wants to suppress my hormones. She put me on lupron shots monthly and once radiation in completed ill take Anastrozole. I asked her "why not just remove my ovaries" and she said because once thats done there is no going back and she'd like to see how I do on the ovarian surpression pills first. Im 6 days into radiation Therepy and so far so good, Im doing a total of 20. I also had my first lupron shot on March 1st but I still ended up having my period this month so I plan on updating my dr when I see her this Friday.

    What made you decide to get a mastectomy as oppose to a lumpectomy?

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    Hi Toyamjj,

    I decided to do a bilateral mastectomy because I did not want to take the chance of it coming back and having to go through all of this again. At the time we only knew that I had cancer in the left breast, luckily I went with the bilateral because the pathology showed that I also had it in the right breast and that it was just starting.

    Is yours Estrogen and Progesterone positive? Both of mine are and that’s why I was leaning towards to ovary removal (since the shots basically so the same thing, just over a longer period of time).

    I am getting a second oncology opinion next month as well

  • Toyamjj
    Toyamjj Member Posts: 151
    edited March 2019

    Im estrogen receptor positive her2-. Ive suffered from heavy periods so ovary removal sounded like a good option to me but sine my dr recommended taking the meds first I guess I didn't really question it. Please keep me posted and ill do the same

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    I will be taking the hormone pills for 10 years as well, the ovary removal is an extra precaution instead of chemo?

    Will do!


  • Oya80
    Oya80 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2019

    My oncotype score is 20, so at 38yo I was in a gray area too. I was adamant that I wouldn't do chemo, so my doc suggested lupron & anastrozole. I've been on that regimen since January. While I feel a bit out of sorts due to being in chemical menopause, I'm tolerating it well for the most part.

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    Hi Oya80,

    What prompted you to go with the injections instead of the ovary removal?

    Are you also doing the hormone pills? My oncologist suggested I do both if I didn’t do chemo

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited March 2019

    Oncologists insist the survival rates for lumpectomy and MX are the same. Hard to believe but the cancer can come back on the MX scar area. It did for my sister. To be fair there are other factors involved like the type of BC. I had IDC and my sister had ILC. My BS was all about saving the breast and while my scar isn’t pretty he said I had a wimpy cancer whatever that is. I think that was his effort to keep me from panicking.

    I think you just do whatever you feel comfortable with.

    Diane

  • Oya80
    Oya80 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2019

    Sorry haven't logged on in a bit...

    Conjuring, I'm still considering ovary removal. Everything happened so fast that I didn't want another surgery. The injections aren't bad.

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2019

    Hi there, I'm 46 and also had stage 1 IDC. My Oncotype score was 21. My oncologist said the chemo choice was up to me. I decided against it, as I just didn't think I could justify the toxicity of the chemo drugs. I did lumpectomy and radiation, and will be starting tamoxifen soon. I’m keeping my ovaries. My onc said removing them would make me”extremely unhappy” lol

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    Oya80,

    I had the opposite thought. I personally would rather have the surgery and get it done and over with instead of a shot every month. I’m worried that next year, when my out of pocket resets that pharma will raise the prices to a ridiculous amount. And since I’ve already hit the max this year, might as well just have the surgery since it won’t cost anything.

    I am getting a second opinion next week though ..


  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    kec1972,

    Wow, she didn’t suggest removal or suppression?


  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2019

    No he didn't. He just recommended tamoxifen for 5 years, possibly 10. Maybe because all my genetic testing came back negative?

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    kec1972,

    I’m definitely asking the oncologist when I go for my second opinion about this option...thank you

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2019

    Please keep us posted! I have a few friends who have also gone through BC in their 40's and I know ovarian suppression/removal was never discussed. I don't know why for some women it is recommended and for some it is not

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2019

    kec1972,

    Yes I will be on Tamoxifen as well. Because my Oncotype score was 22, she initially recommended chemo. After my severely adverse reaction to that recomshe said she would be comfortable with ovary suppression or removal (since my BC is hormone positive).

  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited March 2019

    No suppression is necessary for tamoxifen.

    But studies have shown that ovarian suppression/removal plus AI are more effective for preventing recurrence of certain types of cancers. My understanding is that doctors are more likely to recommend it as a first line of defense for progesterone negative cancers, for example, or more advanced stage. But for women who cannot or will not take that option, tamoxifen is still a lot better than nothing.

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited March 2019

    Hi

    I ended up with a lumpectomy and chemo and lupron-- no one thought I should remove my ovaries-- I honestly found the lupron more difficult than the chemo!!! But this is such a personal decision and you can only do what you can do with the information that you have. I hope you can come to a decision that gives you peace


  • PatRN10
    PatRN10 Member Posts: 332
    edited April 2019

    Hi,

    I was a bit older than you at diagnosis (52) but Oncotype 23. I decided to do chemo as my ER was only 25%.

    I did OK until after the last treatment when I did not take Neulasta and was hospitalized with pneumonia.

    Do what feels right to you on advice of your medical team. I could not tolerate the AI's so feel good about my choice despite the side effects.

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited April 2019

    Pat, did you discontinue AI’s? I’m due to start tamoxifen soon but have decided I will not continue if it ruins my QOL

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2019

    I know this sounds and is actually extremely vain, I’m too scared of losing my hair to do chemo.

    I had my second opinion today and she was adamant about me doing chemo...I just can’t do it. It’s only giving me an extra 3.5-4% right

    I think I’m going to move forward with ovarian removal and AI for 10 years.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited April 2019

    Conjuring, it is ok, you do what feels best for you. I was 53, post menopausal er+ pr- grade 2, stage 1, my oncodx came back 34. I chose not to do chemo, I did 4 years AI drugs.. Going on year 8 cancer free.

    I understand your fears of chemo I too had the same reaction.

  • Conjuring1
    Conjuring1 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2019

    Thank you, Meow13.

    I’m glad you’re 8 years cancer free!

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited April 2019

    I was 41 when diagnosed and had the Oncotype Test done in 2015. My score was 27. Back then, that was considered in the intermediate zone. Given my age, my oncologist wanted me to do chemo. I declined. 
    My reason? Chemo comes with a whole array of side effects. Some can be pretty severe and life long. My oncologist was honest with me and told me that he didn't know if the benefits of chemo outweighed the risks. I just could not see putting my body through all of that, if I didn't know for certain that it was receiving some benefit. 
    I moved forward with radiation, followed by Tamoxifen. Tamoxifen created havoc in my body. In 2017, I had a hysterectomy. (But left my ovaries.) In 2018, I almost died from an ovarian torsion and had my left ovary removed. Then this year, I had my remaining ovary removed after a softball size cyst was discovered. Both the torsion and the cyst were caused by Tamoxifen.
    I am now 44 and in surgically induced menopause. Not fun! 

    Anyway, sorry for rambling. Just wanted to share my decision with you and let you know that I have zero regrets about not doing chemo. I wish you all the best. Make the decision that you feel is best for you and don't look back! Smile

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