Radiation February 2019

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  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2019

    OTMom: Thanks for the update...Nice to know that things do kinda get back to normal!

    this is my last week...I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and not a moment too soon! This week is 5 boosts so hopefully my underarm will begin to heal, it has opened up over the weekend! I am looking for something to do for my radiation team...I see like 6 techs that have rotated through the weeks I've been there and they are all so nice, does anyone have any ideas of small gifts of appreciation?

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    Jen2mom- so happy this is your last week💕 I have roasting techs too. I baked a bunch of cookies and brought them half way through my treatment. They seemed to enjoy that

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    OTMom, your post brightened up my day. Thank you for the update.

    Prissy, congratulations you've made it!

    HPFULL, you are a few days ahead of me. I appreciate your posts very much. I also have that tight feeling under my arm. LE exercises seem to help. But I do not know if this is something temporary or permanent. Have you asked your doctor about it? Would they know if they are radiating a muscle in that area? Do muscles regenerate after radiation? How soon?

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    Santabarbarian, I am glad that your natural products have worked well for you.

    UpstateNY, I don't think they can tell if the margins are clear during the surgery. My surgeon told me that once they are in, they go by feeling--apparently tumor feels different to touch then the healthy tissue. There is something called wire localization (if I remember the name right), though, where the radiologist put tinny wires through your skin to point the exact place of the tumor. That helps guide the surgeon. It hurts to be pierced but you may want to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of it with your surgeon. My tumor was small and I asked my surgeon to request it.

    Today was day 14 of my rads. My boob has begun to get angry about these daily radiation showers. Some parts of it are red and some are getting a tanned look. The tissue under the skin feels heavy, achy all over. It doesn't like anything touching it or any jiggling motions. Slow-Motion-Topless days at home have begun....


  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    I might have spoken too soon as now I have some mild itchiness and kind of 'speckles' of a redder color... Not painful though. I am 10 treatments in, 18 more to go so we'll see how much worse it may get....

    Wishing everyone the best, and congrats to those who have finished! I can't wait to be done!

  • FaceForward
    FaceForward Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2019

    OT Mom - I think you & I are on the same timeline.  My 2 weeks post rads is tomorrow, the 26th.  I know exactly what you mean by feeling "much more like myself than I have in months".  Most of my skin has peeled with the exception of my boost area and some small areas still left in my underarm and the bottom side of my breast.  That boost area is still much redder than the rest and more tender.  This weekend we went to the Seattle Home Show and I walked a lot.  It felt really good to do that even if I did take a nap when I got home.  Exactly as you mentioned, I'm also dreading starting hormone therapy.  I suspect this clear headedness and energy I have might be a fleeting feeling.  One thing my MO told me that I'm hanging onto is: "Just because you swallow that first pill, doesn't commit you to it for 5 years."  I'm going into this with high hopes but if the SE's outweigh the risk, I know can change the plan if I need to.  My medical team (Surgeon, RO, MO) all told me that most patients don't have side effects.  I think they really mean that most don't have debilitating SE's. All of the actual AI users I have talked to still have to deal with some type of SE's.  Plus, I'll have to also be on a bisphosphonate which carries it's own set of SE's. Sigh...

    Here's to moving forward!

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    hi Vivian. I will be having wire localization and clip placed 5 days before surgery. I can't wait until it is all behind me. I did some IORT research and feel it will be the right choice. They use electron beams now instead of the proton type. Apparently, the electron beam therapy goes 3 cm deep , which is much deeper than the proton beams of the older IORT machines.

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    Day 24/33 this is my last week of whole breast and lymph node radiation and next week will be boosts. I am itchy, itchy, itchy and my incisions hurt. Some of the healing from PT is regressing from the RADS so I am so grateful for the PT because I think without it I would be in a world of hurt. I am fatigued in the evening but ok in the day.

    Vivian - I heard somewhere that radiation shrinks your muscles; I not sure if that is true. My PTherspist tells me it definetly

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    HPFULL, does that mean we will have to deal with this pain for the rest of our lives? That's sucks... I hate this thing they call "the new normal." It is not fair.

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Upstate, why are your doctors doing your wire localization 5 days before your surgery? Wouldn't that increase the risk of spreading cancer through blood stream? May be I am overly imaginative person, but this made me worried for you.

    Also it is not painless to have the wires in. I began getting sore after an hr. Are you sure you want to walk around with wires in your breast for 5 days?

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Hi Vivian, Now you are scaring me as well. I don't know why the needle localization is scheduled so far ahead. I know that they can't schedule sentinel node injection on the same day as wire placement for insurance purposes (even though I have a high deductible insurance and will be paying out of pocket for it ) I will call surgeon tomorrow and ask about this.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    I had sentinel node injection (the tracer injection) the afternoon of the day prior to my surgery, and the wire placement was the morning of surgery day. Maybe you can ask for that?

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    they did my wire placement the day of surgery and then my tracer and then gave me a mammogram with the wires in. It was so comical ... oh and I started my period at the hospital the day of surgery. Maybe they are just putting the clip in and not the wire upstate?

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2019

    How’s everyone doing? 6 down, 15 to go. So far so good, haven’t noticed any change.

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Upstate, I am so sorry if I scared you. I just was concern about you. My wires were put in on the morning of the surgery as well. The radiologist's office was a 10 minute drive from the hospital. I dreaded that ride. It hurt every time we had to break or go over a speed bump. I wished that they did the localization at the hospital and right before the surgery. The tracer injection was given during my surgery. I have no memory of it. Talk to the people who are going through their surgeries right now, or at least read the threads about lumpectomy to see what kinds of experiences others are having with the needle localization. May be there are different methods of doing it. Mine wasn't a pleasant experience.

  • Elephant
    Elephant Member Posts: 88
    edited February 2019

    kec1972: I am 8 down and 13 to go and so far I also have not noticed any changes.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    I have alight itchy rash that seems to come and go a bit. Nothing horrible just a mild itch & irritation. No pain. The last two days I have been tempted to nap. However I am a napper in general, so I do not feel particularly pooped. I am 12/28 right now. (Getting Proton radiation.)

  • FaceForward
    FaceForward Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2019

    Interesting to hear that there are so many different protocols for the same procedures. On the day of my surgery, I checked in and got changed into a gown. They wheeled me into radiology to place my wire. They then wheeled me right back to my surgery cubicle and I waited there until it was my turn in the OR. I received my tracer dye 1st thing during surgery, then lumpectomy, then they did my sentinel nodes. I didn't even have to walk anywhere with the wire in, let alone travel or sleep. 😳

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited February 2019

    Just to toss in another experience, I didn't have a wire. They injected a radioactive seed and used that to find the tumor in the OR. They placed that first, similar procedure to the core biopsy, checked with imaging to make sure it was right, then took me for the injection for the nodes. I had to be at the hospital at 6, but didn't go in for surgery until sometime between 10 and 11 I think.

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    hello Vivian, HPFULL, Santabarbarian, & others, I made that phone call today, and the surgeon's nurse spoke at length to me about needle localization. I will not be getting an actual wire, as many of you had done. Apparently, I will be having the Savi Scout placed. There will be no actual wire placed in my breast. What happens is a needle goes in and places a reflective marker about the size of a dime around the tumor site. This marker allows the surgeon with a scanner to locate the exact tumor location in the operating room. The marker has a reflective characteristic to it and really helps the surgeon to get to the precise cancerous area and tissue it needs. It can even be placed months before the actual surgery, so my getting it 5 days before surgery is no big deal. They told me that they have been doing it this way instead of using the wire for about a year now in the hospital where I will be having my surgery. It will be one less thing to think about on the day of surgery. I will get the sentinel node injection the day before surgery. So when I check in to the hospital at 6:00am Mar. 20th., I will be all prepared and ready to go for surgery and IORT. Thanks to all of you for your input and concern.

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Yes, OTmom. This is what I will be having done. It is called Savi Scout. Radioactive seed can be scanned by the surgeon in the operating room to get a precise area for removal. Mine goes in 5 days before surgery. It saves time on day of surgery.

  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2019

    Just an update, I'm 27 out of 30. I'm def burning and peeling this week. Very uncomfortable and I'm going to take off work tomorrow bc I was so grouchy today. The dr prescribed silverdine and hopefully that will give some relief!

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    That's great news UpstateNY Happy

    Jen2Mom I hope the silverdine brings you some relief. A day off work always helps.

    Vivian I asked my PT about when the numbness, pain, and tightness goes away and she said about 6 months to a year and most doctors say 2 years for full recovery. She said I will feel weird sensations on and off for a while. The good news is it does heal and get better.

    Today was 26/33. 2 more normal rads to go then 5 boosts. They told me my radiation is protons ( pass in and then out of the body)  and boosts are electrons and only go in the body, but surface and not deep. They drew a big black circle around my tumor spot which is where they will aim the boosts. I now look like  human dart board! I am so excited to be sticker and marker free. I am itchy, and have muscle tightness, and occasional shooting pains, I am also exhausted by 5pm, but don't sleep so well, but I think the lack of sleep might be Tamoxifen related. SE aside I feel a lot better than I did even a couple of weeks ago. I think I was depressed...

    You are all awesome! Keep on keepin on! We can do this 

  • Rav
    Rav Member Posts: 14
    edited February 2019

    Still 3 to go on the whole breast + 4 boosts after that.

    Got super pink today. Some itching but doable.

    Applying calendula on top of Eucerin.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    HPFULL, I think you meant photons? Protons are only at a Proton center....

  • mrsEO
    mrsEO Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2019

    kec1972 I'm 5 down and 15 to go. I seem a little pinker after yesterday's treatment but not bad. Still have some sensitivity but I think that is healing from surgery not a reaction to the radiation (yet). I'm applying a lot of aloe at least 3 times a day.

  • KerLyn
    KerLyn Member Posts: 35
    edited February 2019

    Hello all! Just wanted to get in one last post before the March Radiation forum opens. I am 2 weeks post treatment and I am 95% back to normal. I had my 4 week follow up with my RO today at 2 weeks because I am moving on Monday....nothin' like a little extra crazy after cancer treatment. I know I was very fortunate, really very few SE's throughout treatment and I'm fair and blonde, I was sure I'd fry, it just makes no sense who gets SE's and who doesn't. BUT, wanted to make sure to THANK YOU ALL for the help and support. Happy end of Feb.....MARCH into March....get this behind you and let's all just hope we never have to do this again!

    -Kerry

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2019

    Great to hear from all of you! KerLyn congrats on being done! Hope healing continues to go well. MrsEO-I had my lumpectomy on 1/7, just had my 7th treatment(out of 21) today. So far no pinkness but I do feel pain at my scar site(upper outer quadrant). Doing lots of pure aloe and lotion, staying hydrated. We got this

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Upstate, Great news!!! I am so happy for you.

    Jen2Mom--I hope the silverdine works well with the itching and burning.I cut open in the front a few of my husband's old T-shirts all the way up to 8-9 inches from the neck. I wear those and a large cardigan over it at home. It seems to reduce friction a little.

    HPFULL, thanks for asking about tightness. I will see my PT on March 6. Can't wait to meet her and start the treatment. You are almost done. Dart board will be gone forever soon. LAST 7 days....


  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Thanks Vivian. I will post after meeting for consult with RO next week. I still have many questions regarding IORT procedure. I am now looking forward to just getting it all done and behind me. Waiting is tough. How did everyone cope with your wait before having surgery? I try to take walks, exercise, doing my "honey-do" chores, etc. My doctor prescribed Xanax for me too, but I only take it when I can't sleep now. I had to take it right after dx, as it was before MRI was done, and before I knew full biopsy report. MRI did not indicate nodal involvement, but won't know for sure until surgery and lymph nodes are checked then. Prayers to those going through surgery, radiation and the challenges that go along with it. God Bless.

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited March 2019

    yes photon @santabarbarian😃 thanks for catching that

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