Radiation February 2019

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  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    hi Vivian4. Can you tell me why your MO put you on chemo and not just hormonal therapy?

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    hi Vivian4. Can you tell me why your MO put you on chemo and not just hormonal therapy?

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Hi UpstateNY :). I was given a choice. My oncotype score (22) put me in the grey area, and after a consultation with MO I decided to get chemotherapy. I am glad I did it. I will never regret it. I would have avoided Rads if I were given a choice though...

    The chemo, compare to radiation, was a breeze for me. I knew I would recover from the chemotherapy completely. The side effects were temporary.... What they call "the side effects" in radiation, however, are permanent changes--like damages to the lymph nodes, scaring of lungs etc... Those terrify me.

    My surgeon removed only one lymph node during my surgery, for example. I was very happy about that. I had no lymphodema symptoms after my surgery. Right now, however, I can barely sleep b/c of the pain in my right arm. Though my nodes are not directly targeted, they are in the way of the beams and get fried unintentially. RO says, there is nothing they can do shield them. There goes the hope of living without lymphodema... sigh...

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Hi Vivian, you mean lymphodema, not lymphoma right? I am so sorry that you have to endure that. You have been through a lot. I plan to do oncotype as well. At what point during your treatment was it done? Before or after lumpectomy? I will be having lumpectomy on Mar. 20 or Mar 13th, need to decide on IORT where radiation given one time after tumor is removed. They say I am a good candidate for IORT. Take care, hugs. Pat

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    yes, I meant lymphodema. They need your tumor to run the Oncotype test, so it usually takes place after the surgery. Good luck with everything. Difficult decisions.... Think carefully before you say yes to anything and read and learn about your options and conditions as much as possible before making any decision. Keep us updated.

  • Mymomsgirl
    Mymomsgirl Member Posts: 174
    edited February 2019

    Upstate I did a combination of IORT and whole breast radiation. I think that my RO is doing that to hopefully eliminate the 2% increase. He also wanted to do that instead of an external boost because I was having reconstruction at the same time as my lumpectomy. I did 15 rounds of whole breast along with the IORT, if I would've had lymph nodes it would've been 25 rounds. My Oncotype came back low but if I would've needed chemo I would've started that after radiation. So if you are worried about the 2% you might want to ask about a combo. Let me know if you have more questions.

  • Mymomsgirl
    Mymomsgirl Member Posts: 174
    edited February 2019

    mrsEO good for you. I saw a video with the glasses, I think those may have made me claustrophobic, it was nice not having to focus on the line. Keep you mind on the fact that if you need to stop at any point you can and that this is the best way for your heart! Keep up the good work!

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Thanks, Vivian, I will keep you updated. So much information to research. To top it off, I have a big fear of anesthesia at surgery. I have not had it since I was a kid having an appendectomy. It scares me being "put under" and not having control of what us going on. What was your experience? Pat

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Thanks, mymomsgirl, I will ask RO about. rad combo/IORT. I have so many questions for her. I appreciate your advice. Hugs. Pat

  • QueenB44
    QueenB44 Member Posts: 27
    edited February 2019

    UGH! I'm so sorry you are going through that. This is the exact reason why I just can't get myself to do the Rads. However, I was diagnosed with DCIS Stage 0 with no nodes. I hope things get better for you.

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Upstate-- lumpectomy was my first surgery ever. I was scared too, but I fully trusted my surgeon and MO and that made all the difference. (I cannot say the same thing about my RO and a part of the fear, anxiety and frustration I am experiencing with rads now have a lot to do with that.) So my advice to you is to take your time to get to know all your doctors and make sure you are comfortable with them.

    The surgery itself was easy. I had my husband with me in the prep room. We were talking and then they came and said they were going to take me to the OR. That was the last thing I remember. When I woke up everything was all over and I still had my pretty boob. My surgeon came and talked to me and I was sent home shortly after that.

    I was aching a little for two days. I wore a sports bra on those days and then switched to a supportive but soft comfort bras ( I bought 4 Hanes comfort bras from Target). I even showered with my bras on because I needed the support. Remember to buy an electric tooth brush--if you don't have one. Any jiggling in the breast area is uncomfortable for a couple of weeks. :) Also wear pajama tops that button in the front. They are easy to put on and take off.


  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    Re surgical anesthesia fears: consider the alternative!!

    Re lumpectomy, depending where the tumor is and how much they need to disturb tissue to get it, it can be a very moderate/easy surgery. My tumor was not deeply buried ... in my upper side boob. I took one pain pill on day one and was fine with ice after that. Tender for a few days and then fine. Talk to your surgeon and get all the specifics... how big an incision? how much tissue? How many nodes? How long a recovery? etc so you know what to expect.

    I am becoming a convert to this natural skin regime I am doing. My pink has not worsened from last week. Right after rads it's sometimes redder but I apply the products and it calms down visibly. I put them on at least 4x /day. I am at 10/28 sessions today. Hoping to keep it tolerable!

    For ladies with pain or bad redness, how long did that take to show up?

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Hi Vivian, You have been so kind in all of the information and advice you have given me. I am really appreciative , and I feel better. You have explained better than the surgeon so far. When she spoke to me she was behind schedule, and I felt a bit rushed, but she did answer my questions fairly well. I have to meet with RO on Mar. 6th. I was wondering if they know right away about whether or not margins are fully clear. I saw a you tube video, where a person given IORT found out later her margins were not clear after all, and needed more rads. I guess I am putting the cart before the horse. Vivian, how much more radiation are you facing? I hope you will be doing better with that. Thanks for the info on wearing a sports bra, button front pajamas , and electric toothbrush. I worked in the dental field for many years, so I think I have the toothbrush coveredπŸ˜€

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    Thanks, santabarbarian, for your advice. Hope your skin care regime works for your redness. That has to be so tough on your skin. Do you sunburn easily? I don't, thank goodness. What is your skin care regime? Can you share it? Thanks for the advice. I think I am clear with most answers the surgeon gave. Mine is in my right breast, less than 6mm, buriedmidway inside outer breast at 8:30 position. I have read where most tumors are found in left breast. Whatever. Hope your treatments keep going well for you, and side effects at a minimum. Take care.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    Posted the link earlier in this thread... It's pure, alcohol free and organic versions of

    1. Calendua extract, 2. Aloe Vera gel 3. Hemp (or Cocoanut) oil w/ the addition of a few drops of Lavender oil per tsp You put them on one by one in that order, letting them soak in before the next thing. Apply several times per day.

    Mountain Rose Herbs and Herb Pharm are the sources that I found online. Read the label to make sure there is no alcohol or other additives.

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2019

    Hi All, had my 3rd session today. Skin holding up well thus far, but I feel like I'm having shooting pains in my left chest...anyone else have this feeling?

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    I have had a few of those. Nothing too intense, but there. I have had them ever since my lumpectomy and I think it's nerves hooking back up. Mine are gentle though. Seems like something to mention to the RO if it's new or intense.

  • UpstateNYer
    UpstateNYer Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2019

    thanks. Santabarbarian. I just ordered some lavender oil today for another reason. Sounds like a good recipe for skin. Sorry I made you have to repost the recipe. Have a blessed day.

  • van2018
    van2018 Member Posts: 18
    edited February 2019

    @santabarbarian, for me the pain and bad redness did not start until 3-4 days after the last radiation treatment. No problems during radiation. I had 25 treatments. 2 weeks post radiation, things were much better. No pain or redness.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    Thanks for the info. I am hoping not to have major issues but I was quite pink in the first week. The natural products seem to have turned it around. They recommend beginning 2 weeks before, rather than 5 days in, but it seems to be helping anyhow.

  • Rav
    Rav Member Posts: 14
    edited February 2019

    Hey ladies,

    Thanks for the notes. I’m glad you found the post useful!

    Enjoy the weekend and don't forget to drink tons of water and do lymphatic exercises. On top of that: Lotion, lotion, lotion!


  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    Friday was 22 of 33. I am red, rashy, and oh so very itchy. I want to scratch so bad for relief lol. My fatigue actually seems a little better. I do have some pain and tightness but doingbok. Next week I’d my last week of regular RADS and the week after is boost week. Wishing you all a relaxing, pain free weekend

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    The RO in my center mentioned Domeboro as a good wet compress for irritated skin. I remember that from sitz-bath days after giving birth. I have not needed it yet but for anyone ahead of me it might be helpful.

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited February 2019

    Just as a light at the end of the tunnel sort of thing:

    I'm not quite two weeks out now. My skin has peeled and calmed down. It still looks weird and there's still sensitivity but it's much better. More importantly for me, I have had times where I feel much more like myself than I have in months. I still have energy crashes partway through the day, but for parts of some days I actually feel like doing things. There are little bits of happiness/optimism returning, which is a very weird feeling after months of feeling like I was under a dark cloud, head full of fog, etc. I'm scared of starting the hormone therapy because I know it'll probably change all of that again and I'm just starting to feel OK again, but it's a nice change to feel like I might someday be able to have a "normal" life again.

    Hang in there everyone. You will get to the end of this.

  • Naesha
    Naesha Member Posts: 62
    edited February 2019

    Hello Ladies,

    Hope everyone is doing well. My radiation started from Feb 11th and March 20th will be the last day. It is 28 days. So far I am done with 10 days and 18 more to go. So far my body has been doing good. I haven't seen any rashes or noticed any changes except few dark spots here and there around my left breast. I am doing radiation in my left breast and around my lymph nodes. I haven't use any oil or lotion yet. Radiologists said that everything looks fine so far. So hopefully i should be okay.

    Take care ladies.



  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    OTMom so happy you checked in and are having some really good days. It brightened my day reading your post. Hugs to you

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited February 2019

    Naesha you and I are exactly in the same place. 10/28 and I finish the 20th. :-) I will be thinking of you!


  • Prissy
    Prissy Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2019

    Friday afternoon I got to RING THE BELL!! 20/20 done! Woot Woot! My husband and daughter went with me for my final treatment and got to be there! I must say I shed a few tears of joy as I lay on that table for the last time and then hugged my amazing techicians. Afterwards we had champagne with my son in law, and then out to dinner. The restaurant gave me flowers to share in our celebration, and my brother and sister in law drove 2 hours to surprise me at the restaurant. So more tears were shed! I can't believe my husband had kept that secret from me for 2 weeks! It was a glorious, emotional, exhausting day! I went to bed Friday with a full and joyful heart.

    The redness and itchiness has definitely increased this past week. I have been using a triple skin compound for the itchiness my RO suggested I make and it does help. You mix an equal part of 1) clotrimazole cream (like Lotrimin) 2) triple antibiotic cream (like Neosporin) and 3) hydrocortisone cream (like Cortaid). The key is to get the same size tubes and mix them in a bowl that you can put a cover on. Apply it 3x/day. The hard part is that you are supposed to apply it 1 hour BEFORE you put on whatever moisturizing cream you are using. I try to do that but sometimes that just doesn't work for me.

    HPFULL - I also found wearing a cami under my bra super helpful. For me wearing a bra alone is just too irritating. And my husbands old t- shirts are the best and softest to wear around the house. I'm so sorry you are struggling so with your skin! Hang in there!

    Jen2Mom - You are almost there! I had a lumpectomy, and my boost area is more red and tender than the rest of my breast. But I was pretty much expecting that. I was also nervous about the boost. I'd feel protective of those mastectomy scars too! Actual time on the table is even less than a regular treatment, and the machine doesn't move like it does for the whole breast treatment.

    Vivian4 - Celebrating those eyebrows with you!

    santabarbarian - I've had zingers at my lymph node scar throughout. But I didn't start having discomfort in my breast until about 13/20. Now that I'm done I'm pretty sore/ tender/red in my whole breast area including under my arm. But your protocol is different from mine. Hopefully you won't experience pain for awhile, if at all! And I'm glad that redness cream you have posted is working. I have all of that and will give it a try if I'm still red when my Miaderm runs out.

    mrsEO - Antigua sounds fabulous! Never have been there but have always wanted to go!

    OTMom - You are 2 weeks ahead of me so it's good to read how you are doing. I am glad you are feeling better and have more energy!

    This week is the first one in 18 months that I don't have some kind of therapy or doctor's appointment. It's been a long road, but I don't regret any of the decisions I have made along the way. I am so grateful for my team of doctors, family, friends, and the forums/threads here that "get it" like no one else does.

    You can do this ladies!

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited February 2019

    Welcome Naesha! Hope you continue doing well!

    Prissy-Woo-hoo! Congrats on finishing!!

    Hi to all!!

    I have exactly 11 days left! Would have ended on a Friday, but they started me a day later, so my last day will be Monday, 3/11!

    I am more itchy than anything else. Got my first actual workout in yesterday and I’m feeling good.

    Anyone else have weird numb feeling and consequently wierd back muscle issues from lymph node removal?? One shoulder blade sticks out farther than the other and I am very weak on that side.

    We got this ladies!!! Gentle hugs to everyone!!

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    yay Prissy! You did itπŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ’• Congrats on finishing. That is so sweet that your whole family came to celebrate.

    Misha- I have some weird numbness on the back of my upper arm and neck:shoulder pain on my right side. My PT tells me to keep stretching and has me do floor snow Angels and also walk my hand/arm

    Up the wall to keep everything from

    Tightening up. It seems to help

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