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  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited January 2019

    Today was day 6 for me. I had a LOT of nerve pain from surgery before radiation. I have a burning feeling along my incision lines, but my skin looks fine and not angry at all. Slathering on Miaderm

  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2019

    HPFULL looks like we are on similar schedule, yesterday was day 8 for me. I'm beginning to feel some burning underneath my TE and under my arm but no redness, just uncomfortable. I'm also using miaderm and Ecream that my nurse recommended.

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2019

    Yesterday was 10 for me. I finish on 2/12. Starting to have some itching, but looking more tan than red (my RO predicted this based on my skin tone and typical reactions to sun). Tired, headaches, low level dizziness and nausea. Not sure what that's all about since other than the fatigue none of that is supposed to be a side effect. Looking at adjusting my work schedule for the next couple of weeks. Torn between wanting to just take some time off and feeling like I should keep something in my days. I am notoriously bad at taking time off to take care of myself, so trying to figure out what a "normal" person would do in this situation.

  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2019

    OTMom: I also have some nausea about 30 min. after my treatment and find that I'm not very hungry for dinner (I have my appts at 3:15). I am tired and finding that I have a difficult time concentrating at work. I am also trying to continue working but may end up working a shortened week if my fatigue worsens. I sometimes think Radiation side effects are completly diminished...I have so many people say "at least its not chemo" and although I never want to have to endure that this treatment is not a walk in the park!

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited January 2019

    Wow Jen we even have the same time slot at 3:15 lol....we are RADs sisters. I definitely have the dizziness. I had mild nausea last night around 5 ish and have been super up and down and easily overwhelmed. I am not sure if it's the RADs or the Tamoxifen or all my nerve pain from the stupid recon surgery that just didn't go right. Are you guys on an estrogen blocker too? I have this feeling of cut glass along my side incision line that goes to my back. 

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2019

    As expected, my RO says dizziness, nausea, and the degree of fatigue that I have are not radiation side effects. She says maybe dehydration, so I'll work on that, though I really have been trying to already. I do know that I'm starting from a place of some chronic fatigue though, so it could just be that since my baseline is somewhat low energy it's just elevating that. Talking with my boss tomorrow about adjusting my schedule, though I still have no idea what I actually want/need to do. While I'm sorry that you guys are also experiencing dizziness and nausea along with the fatigue, it also makes me feel a little less insane to know that it can happen no matter what my RO says.

    Hpfull, I'm not taking hormone meds yet. My MO wanted to wait until after I finished rads and had some time to recover before introducing something new.

    Of course, since I said yesterday that I had no redness, I looked down today after treatment and was stunned to see a bright pink boob. I guess it just took longer on me.

  • Mymomsgirl
    Mymomsgirl Member Posts: 174
    edited January 2019

    OTMom you can have some of those side effects at least from what I've read but there is a good chance that it is secondary from dehydration. I have found that only after 2 days my appetite left. I've also read it is good to up your protein, but with not much of an appetite it is hard. Yesterday I actually purchased a box of protein shakes a colleague recommended. I usually don't like the taste or they have sugar supplements and I can't do those. This is one a dietitian friend of hers recommends, Premier Protein, I started it today so we will see. Other than that I haven't felt too bad, but I do find if I try to go at my pre cancer pace I get worn out so I have to pace myself.

    Good luck with the work talk, I'm fortunate enough to work from home and my boss has been great, I'm basically working 3/4 days (of course when I get home from radiation I usually do a few things, last Friday I calculated I actually put in a 7.5 hour day even though I was gone for 3 hours of the work day for treatment - I have about 2.5 hours round trip).

    I finished week one today, 10 more treatments, wrapping up on February 13th if I can stay on schedule.

  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2019

    HPFULL: I will start tamoxifen after rads, my MO wanted me to have one treatment at a time to rule out side effects. I am def hurting a little more tonight, my husband went to hug me and I jumped back in pain and it also hurts alot around my drain sites.

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited January 2019

    Hi ladies! I was supposed to start today and they pushed it out until tomorrow. I pushed for internal mammary node rads too since I had so many positive nodes with metastases, so they had to change my treatment plan.

    My appointments will also be at or around 3pm, after work!

    I’m going to bed now ladies!

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited January 2019

    Misha- Glad you advocated for yourself and got a more thorough RADS plan.

    I have read that dizziness and nausea are totally side effects of RADS. It kind of pisses me off when doctors discount something being a side effect. Everyone is different, so how the heck can they definitively so no that's not a SE.

    My MO never mentioned waiting to start Tamoxifen so it's so hard to know about which SE's correlate with which treatment. 

    What # session are you on OTMom?

    Hope you all have a great night. Higs to you 

  • Prissy
    Prissy Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2019

    Hello everyone! I started on Monday, so today will be Day 4 out of 20. My appointments are all between 2:45 and 3:00, so it looks like several of us are on the table close to the same time. So far no redness for me. I am slathering on the cream my RO prescribed so hopefully that will help over the long term. But yesterday my breast began to ache again like it did while I was recovering from the lumpectomy. I also have some nausea too. Overall I feel pretty good, though I do have to pace myself. I am self employed and work part time. I hope to continue to do that throughout treatment, but my clients will be flexible if I can't.

    OTMom - I hope you can adjust your work schedule. Working full time while going through rads would be tough.

    I also find myself easily overwhelmed right now, and I am super emotional - much more so than usual. Not depressed or worried, but I cry easily over anything, happy or sad! So the emotional part for me has been a surprise.

    I have been on Anastrozole (Arimidex) since last May to help reduce the size of my lump. Otherwise a lumpectomy would have taken off the lower half of my breast. I've had a few side effects associated with that but nothing I can't manage. However my oncologist wanted me off of that during radiation and for 2 weeks afterwards. Evidently your skin can react more while on this med during radiation. HPFULL - if your SE become hard to manage it might be worth asking about stopping the Tamoxifen until after rads. There is only so much our bodies can handle at a time!

    Cheering each of you on!

  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2019

    I am so exhausted today!!! I did way too much yesterday, skipped lunch and I am paying for it today. Thank goodness my students are pretty low key today and we are going to do a movie day this afternoon. I am going to try to catch up on rest this weekend but I am busy with a prospective pastor visiting our church (and I'm on the pastor search team) so I am going to catch naps when I can. This fatigue is the real deal and I am only finishing week 2!

  • OTMom
    OTMom Member Posts: 121
    edited February 2019

    Jen2Mom, week 2 is when i really started to feel it. I hope you can find some time to rest. It's rough. I hit a point in the day where I just can't be upright anymore. Even sitting is too much after a certain point. Definitely pace yourself and listen to your body when it needs to rest. (easier said than done, I know) How many do you have to do?

    Prissy, being emotional right now makes a lot of sense. I think a lot of us have experienced that.

    Today will be 13 of 20 and they're going to do some measurement and setup for the boost after today's treatment (my appointments are at 3:45). When I met with my RO on Wednesday I mentioned that I was having some itching, so they gave me some stuff to wash with that's supposed to help. I now know what caused the insane rash after both my biopsy and the surgery, because I'm pretty sure what they gave me is a diluted version of the pre-surgical wash and I'm all rashy again after one use. I met with people at work this week at they're fine with me doing whatever I need in terms of my schedule. I can use up all of my leave and then take unpaid time if other stuff comes up. Obviously that's not ideal, but I appreciate the flexibility. I've been leaving early this week and taking more time off and I was still so relieved when my afternoon clients cancelled today because I wasn't sure how I was going to get through them and I really needed to go home. That's after what felt like a better, more balanced day yesterday. I just hit a point each day where I get so dizzy tired that I can't even really be upright anymore. I've been hydrating like crazy, so it's definitely not just dehydration. Hopefully after a mellow weekend I'll be able to take on a few more days. To add to the fun, I get to have a colonoscopy next week. I think the GI department saw my diagnosis and realized they'd blown off some of my concerns and panicked because I got a call a few weeks ago saying that I had to schedule this right away. So my last full week of rads will be even more fun so that they can cover their asses.

    My hormone treatment is back up in the air because my dexa came back showing really low bone density. If I were postmenopausal I would have osteoporosis in my spine, but they don't call it that yet. So I imagine my MO is going to be hesitant to do ovarian shutdown now, even though that's where we were heading after the last appointment.

    Happy Friday, everyone! Hope you all get some rest this weekend.

  • FaceForward
    FaceForward Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2019

    Jumping over here from the January thread. I'll be done with rads Feb 12th. Only 3 more regular session and then 4 boosts. This week I've gotten really red, more swelling and my rash & itching has gotten worse too. This week I've also noticed that my skin has gotten extremely tight feeling. Oh, and I'm getting headaches now too. The most bothersome SE is the fatigue. It's really kicking in now. I've been doing all the preventative measures faithfully - from upping my protein to slathering the creams to drinking what feels like oceans of water. I think our bodies can only hold up to radiation for so long then we just have to do the best we can. Today my RO asked me how my breast was feeling. I said, "hot and heavy." Then I realized how that might sound to him so I quickly added, "But not in the good way". Then crickets chirped. Then we looked at each other and we both had a good laugh. My awkward moment of the week. 😉




  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    Facefoward- Thanks for the laugh :) I love the hot and heavy comment! he he 

    Jen I hope you can get some rest this weekend in between the pastor search. 

    Mymomsgirl- How is the driving going to treatment? The weather has been pretty wicked where you at! Is it taking more than 3 hours to get there?

    Misha- How did your first couple of sessions go?

    Prissy- It does look like we all have the same treatment approximate treatment times in the afternoon.

    OTMom- Good that you know what cause your rash, but bummer that you had to get a rash right now on top of everything. It's good that you will be taking a little bit of time off, especially since you have that colonoscopy. The prep for that will keep you busy and you will be glad that you are homeLoopy

    I think those of you that have 20 treatments as opposed to the 30 plus have a higher does radiation given so I would be curious to see if it causing more intense SE sooner?

    Today was session 9 out of 33. I feel extremely tired, usually it's by 5pm, today it was by 2pm. I have been get those zaps and zingers you were mentioning faceforward. I didn't know what you meant until it happened to me. I feel a little crispy on my side and feel a little itchy with small bumps towards the top of my breast, and I noticed my arm hurt today as I was trying to hold it in place for the treatment. The tech gave me some stretched to do. Yesterday I had a full on break down. I tried to schedule PT to break up the scar tissue that is apparently causing me all my nerve pain. I couldn't get in until March! I have already been somewhat down and in pain since surgery two months ago and was really looking forward to some relief. I cried on the way to RADS and during RADS (I was so embarrassed), and then asked to see the nurse after and was crying to her( they are working on somehow working me in for PT earlier and will let me know). I think the nerve pain meds are having a depressive SE as well. I went to a new GP today and she spent an hour with me and listened and came up with some solutions. I am starting Effexor which helps with nerve pain, hot flashes, and depression. Trifecta!!! I feel some hope :)

    I hope you all have a nice relaxing weekend, with a little bit of fun sprinkled in there :)

  • Jen2Mom
    Jen2Mom Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2019

    so my movie afternoon didn't go as planned. The kids were watching the movie (Hotel Transylvania 3, highly educational) my para was with them and I was in the side roim ugly crying because I'm exhausted and highly emotional today and in walks the director of maintenance to see if my heat was working and poor guy didn't know what to do and then walks in our school superintendent! I was ugly crying telling him I was sorry it's just been a hard week. He was sympathetic and said to take care of myself and at least it was Friday. I'm sure he thought I was crazy and went to my principal and said get this chick some help. Session 10/30 has kicked my butt and I'm ready for some rest!

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited February 2019

    Hi ladies! I honestly wasn’t going to post because many of you are having such a hard time that I didn’t want to post that I’m fine so far!

    I’ve had two sessions, been drinking a bunch of water and using the calendula cream. Yesterday after the first session, I felt a tightening of my breast but I stretched it and it loosened up a bit. I am exhausted, but I’ve been going to bed at 8 or so, and so far so good. My fatigue comes from being “sick” since July and really out of condition!

    I’m meeting all my students for the first time and they are mostly pretty good. I have juniors, so they are old enough to cooperate.

    HPFULL I am glad you are getting in the Effexor and you find some relief! I have been on an antidepressant for like 10 years and recently upped my dose, so I am sure that helps me to deal with all this. I wish the same for you!!

    Jen2Mom-Omg your story! I’m so sorry! I hope you can eventually come to laugh at that! It just figures it would be the superintendent too!

    OTMom-Sorry about the colonoscopy. Those are no fun. Make sure you drink plenty of fluids, including Gatorade. The Miralax is very dehydrating. I had the worst headache when I had mine done.

    FaceForward-Hot and heavy! That was a great story! I hope you get good rest this weekend!

    Prissy-We are about three days apart, and we seem to be the closest to starting. I was afraid it would be bad right from the start, so I’m happy to hear you have four sessions done and still feel okay!

    It is weird adjusting to my new foobs. They are bigger and they can get in the way or rub on my arm or I’m surprised there’s so much there! I was a small C and now am a full C, plus I went up a number size! Now to lose this extra weight..


  • FaceForward
    FaceForward Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2019

    Well, it's still fairly early in the day here around Seattle, and so far I've cleaned up the kitchen and done last night's dishes, pots & pans that I was too tired to even look at last night. I have a load of laundry in and I've mopped the mud room & kitchen. I'm taking a break now but still want to get a peach/pineapple dump cake in the oven and a batch of chicken salad made. Both of those are easy-peasy. I've found if I put my early bursts of energy to good use, I'm able to let myself mentally relax for the rest of the day. I can rest without feeling so guilty about it. I'm one of those people who just can't sit down & relax if there's too much stuff to be done. A couple more easy chores and I'm officially considering myself "off" for the weekend. Maybe I'll take a walk, or read, or re-watch Outlander. Whatever I do, it's going to be me-time. For my protein needs, Hubby will be grilling salmon tonight and tomorrow morning he's making a quiche for me. Then it'll be chicken salad croissants, snacks & dump cake for the Super Bowl. If I'm awake for any of it. LOL!

    I hope you all take time for yourselves this weekend and pamper yourselves just a little bit extra. It's taken me a while to realize that for me, it makes a HUGE improvement in my emotions. I'm also able to cope with the SE's much better. In reading all your posts, it seems we all have a difficult time with guilt, letting go, saying no, etc. I've learned that commitments can be cancelled, that others will step up and are usually eager to do so. How arrogant I've been to think I need to plow forward and not hand things off. Other people are just as capable, if not more so, than I am. Once I got the hang of letting go, of cancelling, of just saying sorry, I'm not up to that after all, it's gotten much easier. My job, my volunteer work, my family and my friends have all been completely understanding and often wondered why I was pushing myself so hard thru this. I was trying to cram a potentially devastating disease into my already full life. I think that pushing somehow felt like I was fighting this disease. I wasn't. That was only me trying to retain some part of my normal life and trying to control this new place I've found myself dumped into. The world keeps turning whether or not I'm on the scene. The way to fight this is by taking this time to care for me. That's truly the only job that no one else can do. Now I feel like I'm doing my one most singularly important job. I'm doing it the right way (For me). And, I'm making sure I step back into the spinning world whole and healthy.

    Wishing you all peaceful napping. :)

    I re-read this and realized it turned into some kind of self-analysis. I was going to delete it but writing it all out has helped solidify my thoughts and my determination so, I'm leaving it here for now. Please forgive the ramblings as it was not my intent to bore anyone. You've certainly been muchcheaper for me than a therapist would have been. LOL! :)



  • egregious
    egregious Member Posts: 240
    edited February 2019

    Hey Jen2Mom, we always say moms don't have time to get sick, but sometimes it's good to step back and let other people pick up the slack. Can other people do the pastor nominating committee while you're in active cancer treatment? What if this were your sister, would you tell her to exhaust herself, or would you guide her to get the rest she needs?

    Misha, nice new profile picture!

    FaceForward, thanks for sharing your struggle with doing enough/too much/not enough. I think this is one so many of us face. You phrase it well.

    Lubricate - hydrate - share your stories. You can do this!


  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Hello Ladies! I will start my rads this wednesday. I have serious concerns about the dosage and length of my proposed treatment. Do you mind sharing the information about the length of your radiation therapy and its dosage? How many sessions of Rads will you be receiving and what is the dosage? My doc proposes 33 sessions. The dosage for the first 28 will be 180, and last 5 will be 200. I had chemo (TC), my tumor was small, and there was no node involvement.

  • HPFULL
    HPFULL Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2019

    Vivian - I have the same RAD plan as you😊

    Facefoward- I am so glad you did not delete your post. I needed to read that and think I need to sit and write a bit in my journal. Sometimes I am going full force not processing. AND .... I am sooooo hungry after reading about all the yummy foods you were describing so I must go snack now 😉

    Jen sending you a big hug. I totally can relate to that overwhelming, emotional fatigue

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    HPFULL-- thank you for your reply. It makes me feel better that my RO did not pull this number and dosage out of thin air. My RO is kind of hard to talk to. Maybe it is just me feeling this way... but I feel totally unprepared for this treatment. I still would like to talk to him about his plan before I start the treatment though and ask why he is putting me thorough a full-length treatment as I had no node involvement.

    Faceforward--I am glad you did not delete your post as well. Thanks for sharing.

  • FaceForward
    FaceForward Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2019

    Vivian4 - I'm on the shorter schedule. 20 Sessions with the first 16 being regular strength and the final 4 will be the lower dosage boosts to the tumor bed. I'm getting a total of 50 grays. I'm not sure of my grays per session breakdown but if I average out my numbers, it comes out to 2.5 grays per session. Do you know the unit of measure your doc is using? Or if there even is another unit of measure? If you add a decimal to your numbers i.e., 20 @ 1.80 and 5 @ 2.00 that totals 46 which is close to my 50 grays. So...maybe it's a math thing.

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    FaceForward-- I need to figure out how the math works. I thought the max was 50 gray as well but when I added the numbers my nurse navigator gave me (assuming 180 centi-gray=1.8 gray as you mentioned) the total dosage adds up to more than 60 Grays. That scares me. It really bothers me that I have not seen my RO since he came up with the plan. Don't we get a say in it after they come up with a treatment plan and before they start treating us?. We are supposed to have a "dry run" in two days and then start the rads the next day. I wonder if the RO will be there for the dry run.

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    FaceForward-- I need to figure out how the math works. I thought the max was 50 gray as well but when I added the numbers my nurse navigator gave me (assuming 180 centi-gray=1.8 gray as you mentioned) the total dosage adds up to more than 60 Grays. That scares me. I have not seen my RO since he came up with the plan. Don't we get a say in it after they come up with a treatment plan and before they start treating us?. We are supposed to have a "dry run" in two days and then start the rads the next day. I doubt RO will be there for the dry run. I thought Rads were supposed to be the "easy" part after chemo. There is nothing easy about this whole process. Each step is full of anxiety.

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited February 2019

    I had 33 radiation treatments in 2011. To be honest I was never informed about the “grays” or any such math equations. However, I didn’t have any unmanageable side effects other than a little burning and fatigue halfway through the treatments and I didn’t have chemo either because I had a low Oncotype score. The treatments weren’t bad at all and the techs were awesome.

    I know what treatments long term effects can be but I was determined to do the treatments. I didn’t think I really had a choice especially since I dodged chemo.

    You guys have done your homework and I think if you have reservations you should discuss them with your doctors. Doctors definitely have the attitude that their decision is gospel sothey schedule the treatments and you comply with no questions asked.

    The fact of the matter is it’s your life and your body and your call.

    Good luck!

    Diane

  • CHB87
    CHB87 Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2019

    Hey everyone

    checking in from January...still going strong. have two more whole breast treatments and I start the boost for a week on Wednesday! So happy to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Couldn't come any sooner. Skin held up good until Friday...started to crack in the(I call it my boob crack ) and underneath...not super painful but uncomfortable for sure. Got a script for silvadene and that takes away the discomfort. Hoping the boost will bring some relief to the rest of the breast. Almost there! Last day is the 13th!

  • Mymomsgirl
    Mymomsgirl Member Posts: 174
    edited February 2019

    HPFULL the drive hasn't been too bad. We missed most of the snow but we did get the cold. My hubby was home for 2 days so he took care of the driving those days. I'm now on afternoons from here on out which I think is better because I can get some work done and then head out early afternoon. With the morning sessions after the close to 3 hours round trip I didn't feel much like working. I have 7 treatments down and 8 more to go. Went out with a girlfriend on Friday as a little almost half way celebration.

    When I saw my RO on Wednesday he said things were looking really good and he has a recommendation of a new MO, so looking forward to that. So far my breast has started to darken a little, I expected that verses red since I have more of an olive complexion. My shoulder is tight so I've been stretching and today I really feel my breast bone area, just lying on a hard surface with my arms stretched out is helping with that. I keep applying the Aquaphor and hoping for the best.

    Vivian4 I know I've seen a lot of people with 33 sessions, it seemed like many of them had lymph nodes involved though. I know I was going to have 25-27 if I went the regular route with no lymph nodes. I noticed you had chemo first and was wondering if you mind sharing the reason, it looks like you were a pretty standard Stage 1. It won't hurt to ask you doctor, I know you said you had a verification coming up and might only see the techs, I would advise calling your ROs office, then maybe they can see you when you go in or if they have a nurse that can help answer some questions. Remember you are your best advocate. I'm now interested in what numbers I'm having done, I'll need to ask (I'm a math geek at heart).

    Jen2Mom hang in there. I can't imagine teaching while going through this (I was a teacher at one time). It is a performance 100% of the time which is exhausting in itself. I think one of the only reasons I'm working is because I get to work from home and my job can be very flexible on how I get the work done and fortunately I lead a team of amazing people and they've been a big help. Maybe you can work out an adjusted schedule like MWF with a sub on TTH or is it possible to get a sub to come in an help for part of the day. Remember you come first and unfortunately you were dealt this hand. Sending good vibes your way.

  • Vivian4
    Vivian4 Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2019

    Mymomsgirl-I did Chemo first b/c my onco score was 22, which put me in that gray area. My MO simply said the decision was mine. I elected to do chemo b/c I did not want to look back one day and say I could have or should have... Chemo wasn't a walk in the park but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I am more scared of rads.

  • FaceForward
    FaceForward Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2019

    Vivian4 - Sorry, I had used 20 instead of 28 @ 1.8 grays so yes, you are just over 60 grays. In any case, it's best to ask, RO, your nurse, one of your techs. Just be persistent until you get any info you want. I had to ask my RO to find out. He almost seemed surprised that I wanted to know the details and I think a lot of people really don't. I want to know before I consent to any medical procedures but I know people who get totally stressed if they know too many details. Everybody has their own comfort level but patients should be made aware the info is available if they want it. Sometimes it's hard to even know what questions we should be asking. Let us know what you find out

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