Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Aladora, I've been wondering about you because I knew you had chemo a few days ago. Glad to know your head's clearing up. We never seem to hear many complaints from you!!

    Nandy...how did you manage to get going with Neulasta...are paying $6000 a shot?! Yikes!!

    Rita Jean, thanks for the kind words re:Nurse Hatchet. My best to all of your out there Rebecca, Ilene, Lynn, Amera, Viddie, RobbinJaye...our group has gotten so big it's hard to keep up with all the conversations, I try to strike a balance between not posting too much and keeping up with everybody..
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited February 2007

    Hi all- I haven't written for awhile. For those ladies going on Herceptin, I have a friend on it, as well as a lady I met yesterday and the cancer center - they both said that the Herceptin is a walk in the park compared to FEC/AC etc. No noticable side effects, although it can cause hear damage, which is monitored. Their hair is growing back while on the Herceptin and the transfusion takes about 1/2 hour.

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hey guys, my HAIR IS GROWING BACK!! Now how wierd is that? We buzzed it last week and it's grown a quarter inch. In fact, most of it never fell out. Maybe I acted too soon??

    Well, I guess you don't really belong to club unless your lose you hair. There's something religious about it.
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Hi Ladies,

    As always, it uplifts me to read everyone's posts, thanks so much for sharing!

    Rita, good luck tomorrow with your #2 tx. We'll be thinking of you.

    RobinJaye, how did it go today? Did your daughter go to tx with you? Let us know.

    Terry and Tae, I'm on TC which includes Taxotere. It is not exactly like Taxol, but is a taxane like taxol and I believe has similar side effects. I do some bone and joint pain, but it is definitly managable with Aleve or Ibuprofin, no prescriptions needed. Also, for me, it doesn't occur all the time, started about a week after 1st chemo and lasted about a week. I had #2 tx last week and only have mild bone pain and will take Aleve if it gets worse (I do not get any shots like Neulasta). Tae, hope you are feeling better!

    Robertin, I think that is a great idea to do a Caring Bridge website. I haven't looked into it yet, but liked the part about sending the site to loved ones so they can check up on me without calling. Everyone is so wonderful and caring, but I've gotten to the point where I don't want to answer the phone.

    Amera, I'm going to go online to Sephora and look up the eyebrow stencils, great idea!

    Mizsissy, so glad you are feeling better and just think you only have to deal with that nurse 2 more times!

    Wow, interesting the different times it takes for chemo treatments. I got to Onc office at 8am, got blood drawn, saw Onc at 8:20, then to chemo at 8:45, left at 12:30. Both the Cytoxan and Taxotere take a while to infuse.

    As for support groups, all you wonderful women are my support group. I can honestly say that this has become a very important part of each and every day for me. I have no intestest in hearing about recurrence right now.

    As for me, I've been getting nose bleeds for the past 2 days and they have been getting harder and harder to stop. This morning it took about a half hour to stop, so I called Onc. He had me come in to get a blood count on my platelets and they are fine. So saline nose drops 4 times per day and hopefully I'll manage not to bump my nose too much, it's so fragile that the tiniest bump will start it bleeding. After I left the Onc, me and my tissues went to the mall shopping, had a lovely time!

    Guess I got carried away with my message, sorry it's so long! Have a great evening everyone. I'm a survivor fan (have been since the beginning), so will be watching that tonight.

    Lynn
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Oh, forgot one more thing regarding hair stubble. I've been using a lint roller and it has been working, but it my hair still isn't all gone and it's irritating me. I read on another post somewhere to try duct tape, yes duct tape. I can't tell you how hard dh and I were laughing as we put duct tape on my head! It was a riot! It did work better than the lint brush.
  • Aladora
    Aladora Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2007
    I'm going to have to bitch for a second.

    My stubble is falling out and I'm now definitely "that cancer chick".

    Grumble.

    And it's not even having the good grace to fall out all at once, oh no, it's just semi hanging around to piss me off.

    Sorry, I'm grumbly and tired today. And darnit, my head is COLD!

  • vlfr
    vlfr Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2007
    Hi Everyone, I had my first Taxol and Herceptin today. The taxol has to drip very slowwwwwly because of the risk of allergic reaction. I receive 50 mg of Benedryl first. So I was asleep part of the time. I think it took about 2 hours. Then the Herceptin took 30 minutes.

    Lynn12 you wrote about taking Aleve. My onc is hysterical about not taking anything that will mask a fever. Since a fever over 101 could mean sepsis. I take Davon that is Darvocet with out the tylenol. I had the same experience someone else relayed. I took it and it really lift my spirits. I first thought that it was just that I was experience more bone pain than I had thought. Then I remembered that its a methodone like substance. I've taken very few but its good to know its there. Im trying to fight off the "bad attitude" I have looking down a long tunnel at 12 weeks in a row of chemo. You are all are really positive and helpful group of ladies and I really feel connect reading your posts.

    Wigs. I have one although I don't wear it everyday. It looks so much like my real hair most people don't even know. (First time I was ever greatful for general obliousness.) I find that when I wear it with friends or at school (Im a graduate student) then the coversations are much more normal. Not about me and my illness. When I wear a scarf or hat, the converstations always turn towards the BC. The wig can be a great way to escape.

    Vicky
  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited February 2007
    Lynn12,

    Today, (Thursday) I went for my second AC dose. No Lynn, Jessyca Faith (my daughter) did not go. I tried to get her but when she saw my bald spots she freaked out. So I had my mom drop me off and pick me up. I will try to take her next time.

    So far so good. Tomorrow I go for my shot and free massage at the cancer center. Keeping an eye on my white blood count. Today I am half way done. Two more treatments then I start my 7 weeks of radiation.

    More info later...
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Hi Vicky,

    Glad to hear your first Taxol/herceptin went well.

    I do not take the Aleve 24/7 and my Onc did tell me to make sure I'm not running a temp. My instructions are to call anytime I have a temp of 100 or more. I would rather not do narcotics and stick to OTC if I can. '

    Lynn
  • vlfr
    vlfr Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2007
    Sorry Lynn, I didn't mean to imply you are doing something wrong. Im trying to be a compliant patient. Yet I feel like I - like you - am capable of deciding when I should or shouldn't take an OTC. I have to say the my first period after starting chemo was a killer. First time in 20 years I didn't take ibprofen for cramps. I have talked to others who get to take OTC. I guess I will reevaluate this when my next period comes.

    Vicky
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007

    Well everyone, I am venturing out this weekend. My daughter has a gymnastics competition in Ohio, and I am going with her and my husband. We decided to leave the two littler ones at home in the interest of conserving my rather limited energy. Hopefully it will be a relaxing trip...lots of friends, but I am a little nervous about being so far from home and being unwell. Ah well...I guess life moves on chemo or no. Have a good weekend everyone, I will post when I get back.

  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited February 2007

    Hey guys, session two is not nearly as easy as session one. I woke up this morning tired and dizzy and nauseated. I tried to get ready for work, but simply couldn't. My daughter told me that I should listen to my body more and not push it so hard, so I listened and stayed home. I had appointments with two students, but cancelled. Wow, that was an eye opener. I slept a lot, and just vegetated. Tried to do some work, but my mind wasn't in it. I'll try again tomorrow. Oh, and I wore a black dress today, and as I was sitting behind my laptop I rubbed my head (seems to be a favorite way of stimulating the thinking lately), and all these short gray hairs fell in my lap. The shedding has started. Now it's for real. At least today I truly felt that the chemo was working.

  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy,
    My hair grew back too and I had to shave it again. What a pain!
    RobbinJaye,
    Your daughter sounds just like mine. She really just can't deal with any of this.
    Today is 8 after my 2nd TAC and I still don't feel like myself. I just can't get warm and am very fatigued and light headed. My nose is also very dry. It seems like the first treatment was a breeze and now I am afraid that I won't feel better before I go on the 28th for treatment #3.
    Lynn,
    I think I will try the duct tape too! The hair thing is really driving me nuts. It is another thing to think about in the morning. I know how you feel Aladora. I keep trying to tell myself that if I have side effects the treatments are working.
    Does anyone else find that they can't really read a book? I just can't concentrate, barely can read the newspaper. Is it chemobrain? ilene
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Hi ladies! I am off today for #2. I am not nearly as anxious about the actual procedure as I was last time so I'm hoping that I have less nausea and side affects. I hate being puny!!!!

    EVeryone have a good weekend and I'll check back in as soon as I feel like looking at the computer screen. Thanks Lynn for your encouragement. I hope I do as well as you have done!

    Rita
  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited February 2007
    So far my second chemo hasn't produced the same side effects as the first. It may be because I didn't get Herceptin with the A/C this time, or it may be that it just hasn't kicked it yet.
    I go for a Muga scan this morning.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hi Lynn,

    I've been taking Darvocet on and off without any feeling of need to "continue"....it's very effective for pain and it also is a mood lifter... I think it would be very hard to get addicted, unless you took more than one a day everyday for a while.

    However I had to take *another* one last night because I had such a raging kidney infection I was spending more time in the bathroom than in bed. It did take the edge off enough for me to sleep six hours. Today I have the unhappy task of contacting the Nurse from H**l to get some medication for this kidney infection. It's my third in two weeks, and I'm allergic to most antibiotics...

    Good luck to everyone who is starting or just started a new cycle--Rita, Vicky, Robertin. Those second cycles seem a little tougher!!! I'll start my 3rd on Monday if I can get this infection cleared.

    Rebecca, Lucky You, a daughter in gymnastics! Will you have a hotel in Ohio? A room and a bed nearby might make you feel a little less anxious.

    Love to all,

    Mizsissy
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Good morning and good luck to all the gals getting the cocktail today. It truly is unbelievable how different all of our experiences have been. I have to echo what many of you have said. This group is wonderful. It is my support group. I've noticed a few other groups from previous years are still up and running. It's amazing how this experience bonds you.

    I have a terrible cold. Not usually a big deal, but with the chemo mixed in, it is completly wiping me out. No temp though so it's just a cold at this point. Anyone else finding normally minor things really taking it out of you?

    Mizsissy, kindey infections are awful. Hopefully NFH will get a clue and help you out.

    Rebecca, did your onc say anything about your trip? I would love to take a day or two and go to Maine for a visit, but wonder how far I can be from my dr/hospital. I suppose I should call to find out.

    Okay everyone, have a good day.
    Amera
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Aladora - on the stubble - that is EXACTLY how I feel. It is so annoying.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    I'm off for FEC #2 this morning. Last time it was a full week before I could look at the computer screen. I am going to miss reading these posts every day! Good luck today Rita. Oh, and Ilene - there were days after my first treatment where I couldn't read a book too, but magazines were OK.

    Hope you all have a good week.
  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited February 2007
    Good Luck today Rita and Jan. We hope to hear from you soon.
    Mizsissy and Amera,
    I hope you feel better quick!
    I am off to my asthma doc for a check up. I think I might have a sinus infection. Talk to you soon, ilene
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Amera, you really have had a lot to deal with. I can't imagine having to deal with a bad cold and chemo. Hope you feel better soon.

    Aladora, how was *Dora the Explorer*??...fascinating I hope. Which brings up a subject that might be of interest to the rest of you. Most of you sound like very active people, so the question is, what to do when you have to lie around and deal with chemo?? We joined Netflix...what a deal! It is so wonderful to watch good movies without commercials. Just saw *The Incredible Lightness of Being* and *Frida*...two great flix. As soon as you're done with one, they send you another one.

    Just want to reiterate what a special group I think this is. Considering the number of pages we've already racked up, we're quite unusual. I think we're entering a period where things are going to get a little harder before they get easier, so the support we're giving and getting will be a even more important. But the end is in sight!!!

    Mizsissy
  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited February 2007
    Jan:

    Good luck with your FEC, I just finished #3 on Monday, not too bad this time. I'm finding the ginger snaps my sister makes for me really help with my nausea.

    Rita: Good luck with #2

    Aladora, I'm out of Calgary, if you need a Canadian bud.

    Going out to get another wig today...decided I want a red one...have a candle party to go to on Sunday with a bunch of girlfriends, and I want to make an impact...hahaha.


    Warming up here...we have a chinook going through!! Hope everyone has a great weekend.

    Cheers...Joni
  • vlfr
    vlfr Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2007
    Amera, dealing with a cold is a lot when you are already fatigued and not feeling well. I got a cold right after my first Chemo. I dragged on and I just couldn't fight it off with low WBC. I did lots of Vit C and zinc. Just take care of yourself.

    Ilene, I love to read and thought that would fill my feeling bad days. I never knew I could be too tired to hold a book more than 20 minutes. And my eyes get tired too. I not reading anything by romance novels (yikes!) as that is about as deep as I can get. By mistake I got a large print book from the library. I must say it is easier to read.

    My worst two Chemos were AC # 2 and 3. Finally by 4 I had figured out how to take really effective naps and it went better. It helped me to get a mask and really black out the light and sound with ear plugs. I hope that helps some of you.

    Vicky
  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited February 2007
    Well, yesterday was my 2nd dose of AC and today was my shot. I canceled my free massage at the cancer center to go have my head shaved, there was nothing there anyway. Took her 2 seconds. Now, I'm a bald chick. Weeeee.....

    From the pics I posted last week on the above posts, (last Saturday), my hair has all fallen out. It all came out within' one whole week.

    Trying to repost a new pic in my profile.
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited February 2007

    I have had more trouble dealing with hair loss than any other aspect of this .... at least once I accepted that I had to deal with bc at all. I think it's so hard. I wear a wig to work everyday, and it's lovely, but I am bald and I look awful when I take it off. And the funny thing is, I never had much confidence in my looks. But I always loved my hair. And my breasts. Now I have one breast and a bald head. Jeez.

  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    I hear you. Most of the time I'm still shocked when I look in the mirror, seems as though I forget that I don't have hair sometimes. You go through your entire life looking in the mirror and seeing one thing, now all within a couple weeks, it all changes.

    Another thing is when I'm sitting up in bed watching tv and I turn my head, I keep thinking my ear is hot, but it turns out it's my bald head is heating up the pillow, never used to do that with hair!
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    I STILL have not taken a good look at myself bald. Saw myself briefly in the bathroom mirror this AM and shrieked. It's been over ten days. My head is always covered; I am always thinking I have to take out the bobby bins and comb it out..

    One way to deal with it? DON'T. Don't even look. It will grow back anyway, so it's not like menopause, where you have new self you have to accept.

    Lynn...when do we see your new fabulous strawberry Blond WIG?

    Anybody know how long it takes to recover your energy after you stop chemo?
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Mel, I think you hit the nail on the head. I am having a really hard time with the hair loss. I can glam it up and look okay in scarves and hats, but I hate that I even have to think about it. I am not one to usually wear much makeup or even dry my hair before I leave the house. Now I feel like I have to really put in some effort to distract from the fact that I am bald. I do not like being this focused on looks.

    I am also having a terrible time with dry skin. No matter how much cream I put on my face, the makeup cakes up. And did I mention my facial hair has decided to grow faster and darker rather than do the proper thing and fall out? I am now sporting a mustache. I look like a drag queen.

    I fear I will become a recluse if I cannot get over this.

    Amera--having a really ugly day
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited February 2007
    Has everyone gone bald around your husbands? I won't let him see me bald, and he finds that so strange ... we have been married 38 years, he watched me birth our three kids. What is this all about?
    Melia
  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited February 2007
    Hi,
    My asthma doc said I am fine. She said to use either vaseline or saline in my nose to keep it moist since we also lose the little hairs that are inside our noses.
    I have let my husband see me bald. He was gone the week before I had my friend shave it. I was going to wait until he came home but it hurt so much I couldn't. I don't really feel comfortable seeing it myself! It really stinks. I never used to wear earrings before,or much makeup, now I feel like I need to wear them to feel like a woman. I think that is part of the problem, no boob, no hair = feeling like a man!

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