Just diagnosed with HER2+ positive Breast Cancer
I am new to this message board and new to cancer too. I hope it was okay to start a new thread.
I just my biopsy results last week. Stage 1 grade 3 HER2+ in my right breast. I have only seen the radiologist so far. I see oncologist next week. Supposed to be an aggressive BC but seems to be no hurry to get everything done by the medical providers. It will be a total of two months from start to finish for breast surgery. I am getting a lumpectomy and breast reduction. I would gladly get a mastectomy if I thought that would keep me from getting chemo. I am terrified at the thought of chemotherapy. Doctor indicated I might have to get chemo before surgery. I am hoping when I see the oncologist she will tell me what the odds are for surgery and radiation only. I am so scared that I am seriously considering just doing nothing and go on with my life as if nothing has changed.
Has anyone here had a lumpectomy and radiation without chemo?
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Hi Cricutcat, sorry you had to join this club, but welcome. About chemo, having a mastectomy has nothing to do with that. Being Her+ is another matter. My understanding is that those with this dx need chemo and Herceptin. Hopefully you will get more information when you see the oncologist. Best wishes!
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are you ER+ and PR+ as well?
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Hi!
I was also diagnosed with HER2+ cancer. As you can see from my signature, I did indeed do chemo and Herceptin (and Perjeta). I don't think you'll find too many HER2+ breast cancer patients on this board who didn't at least try chemo (a few may have had to stop due to side effects). Yes, HER2+ cancer is aggressive, and it has a high rate of recurrence (and mortality) without Herceptin. Since Herceptin is initially given with chemo in most cases, most HER2+ patients do chemo.
Since you are Stage I, your doctors might recommend 12 weekly infusions of Taxol + Herceptin. I did that regimen, and found it easier than Adriamycin + Cytoxin.
A few members have gotten Herceptin alone. One member, deni1661, was part of a study where she just did Herceptin + Perjeta. But, honestly, I found chemo to be doable.
Good luck!
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Oh don't do nothing! That would be far more terrifying than the treatment!
My tumor was misdiagnosed when it was 0.5cm and so grew untreated for two years before being properly diagnosed. It got to a point where it began buldging and I could see it growing. It was 2.5cm when properly diagnosed and 3cm a month later when I started chemotherapy (I had chemo first, then surgery). It softened after the first or second infusion and they only found some DCIS remaining at the time of surgery and are calling it a pathologic complete response. At the time I began treatment,, the estimated size doubling time was one to two months. So if it was left untreated that would have been horrible.
Treatment wasn't nearly as scary as I thought it would be. My infusion facility was sunny, the staff were friendly, thorough and knowledgeable, my oncologist was quick to respond to my questions, and I never felt like I was on the verge of dying. The most unpleasant things about the chemotherapy process for me were things pertaining to eating...taste alterations, tender esophagus/sensitive tongue, and acid reflux. The cold capping was unpleasant but optional.
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Thank you for responding to my post WC3. Wow! I am sorry it too so long to find and treat your breast cancer. So you just had your breast surgery in November? You have been through a lot and I am glad you are better. Thank you for sharing some of the details. I think you were and are very brave. Do you mind if I ask if you received radiation as part of the treatment plan?
Finding out I had BC was bad enough, then HER2+ being the type. I suppose I am being a baby about the whole thing but I am so frightened of chemo. Maybe after I see the oncologist next week I feel better once I speak to her.
Thank you very much talking about cold capping. I never heard of it before. Hope my insurance covers it.
I hope you are feeling well and cancer free. I wish you happiness and good health for 2019.
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Hello Pupmom,
Thank you for reaching out. I am hoping I can get the least amount of all the therapy for my BC. It seems like HER2 has a stronger regime than other BC. I hope the oncologist can figure out a treatment plan with the minimal amount of treatment to kill this cancer. Bless all of you in this group you all have gone through so much.
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Hello. Her2+ is pretty aggressive. I had only mastectomy in 2012 for 2mm idc per protocol. (Large dcis also)
I was diagnosed in 2014 with mets to the lungs. The protocol has changed now with almost all her2+ idc receiving chemo and Herceptin. You can investigate the NCI recommendations for clarification
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TResjoli2,
In answer to your question I am ER positive only.
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Thank you ElaineTherese for reaching out. Very kind of you. Everything I have read says that a Herceptin can go on in treatment for a full year? Thank you for the information on the treatment plan of 12 weekly infusions of Taxol + Herceptin. I read something about this on line. I will definitely ask the oncologist about it. Thank you very much for your help.
I hope you are feeling great and cancer free.
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Hello Beatmom
Oh my, I am so sorry that the BC you had treated in 2012, than the cancer came back again in 2014, this time in your lungs. I can only imagine what you must of been through, I am so very sorry.
It is starting to see that without Herceptin,it will be not be easy to try and beat this HER2+ cancer.
I hope you are well now and that the cancer is totally gone.
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Hi Cricutcat
I am triple positive (ER+, PR+, HER2+) and I also did chemo & herceptin - my chemo was 6 rounds of taxotere and carboplatin - no walk in the park but doable - my worst side effect was constipation. I’m still doing my herceptin infusions and just finished radiation dec. 24 which I also found very doable. I just knew for me I wanted to throw everything at the cancer to give me my best chance of never doing this crap again.
I also cold capped to keep my hair - kept about 70% and for me that was totally worth it
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I found chemo pretty tolerable actually and highly recommend staying active if possible, it sounds strange but it does help fight fatigue. You’ll have info on what to expect during chemo and a nurse should be watching your first infusion for any potential issues or side effects. Good luck!
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For me it's all about the probabilities. Your MO will be able to tell you how much each treatment will reduce your probability of recurrence. If your tumor is < 2 cm you'll likely get the standard 12 weeks of Taxol + Herceptin followed by Herceptin only every three weeks for the balance of a year. Not fun but also not too bad. It was explained to me that while HER2+ tumors are more aggressive, they also have better long-term outcomes because of Herceptin. It was a real game-changer. FWIW, Taxol is sometimes called "chemo lite"--usually the SEs are not as bad as the heavier duty chemo drugs.
Try not to worry. This is a bump in the road that you'll get on the other side of.
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So sorry you have to go through this. I second what Ingerp and illimae have mentioned. Stay active, it helps tremendously. Taxol is chemo lite or baby chemo. It is needed to get the Herceptin started and then it is dropped after 3 months. The big side effects for me were hair loss and neuropathy. I cold capped for hair and iced hands and feet to prevent severe neuropathy. Also, drink plenty of water. This site is full of wonderful ladies (and a few men). I found everyone extremely helpful and supportive! You can do this. Knowledge is power.
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A lot of the terror of everything "cancer" - diagnosis, treatment, prognosis - is improved once you've met with all of the providers and have a plan of attack in place. Each person is very different and so is their particular cancer. The best plan will be figured out for you - with your input.
I had TCHP - six rounds of chemo (Taxotere and Carboplatin) with the targeted drugs (Herceptin and Perjeta) every three weeks. I then continued with Herceptin for the rest of the year. Chemo is scary and can be hard at times, but it's usually not unmanageable.
I hope that as you learn more and get your questions answered - you'll also find some hope and peace.
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I was also Her2+ and did chemo + herceptin and frankly it was not that big of a deal, physically anyway. But like you I was terrified of chemo and the anxiety was the worst part of it all. That peaked around infusion #4 and went back down after that but for a while there I was really in a state. If I were to have to take chemo again for any reason I'd probably be pretty relaxed about it because like others have said, it was totally doable.
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Hello Behg79,
Thank you for sharing your treatment and details about your BC. You are so nice, Everyone in this group has been so kind and helpful and I truly appreciate it.
I love your strong positive attitude. I hope I get there and can be half as brave as you and the others who have shared their experiences here. So great that your radiation treatment was on Christmas Eve. I am hoping my insurance will cover the cold capping. I hope you are close to the end of your treatment, and like you said, never have to do this crap ever again.
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Hi illimae, Becca53, NotVeryBrave, Ingerp, & hapa,
I just want to thank all of you ladies so much for sharing your treatments and all your advice. I see a common theme among all of you; you all have great strength and bravery. I plan on taking everyone's advice. I will try to stop worrying and get a hold on my anxiety, try and stay active and busy once my treatment starts.
Honestly, I had no idea there were different types of BC or different treatments. Blindly, I assumed that if a tumor was small you received radiation and a hormone blocker if the BC was in stage 1 or stage 2. That chemo was only used in stage 3 or 4. I hope to feel better once I see the oncologist on Tuesday and know all my treatment options.
Thank you all again for giving me hope that I can make chemo doable for me.
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Cricutcat:
I started chemotherapy in June and finished in October, about a month later than anticipated because my last three infusions each had to be delayed a week because of low platelets. I had my surgery six weeks later in November, which was a little farther from the last chemotherapy infusion than the preferred time frame but that was the soonest they could schedule me and my CBCs were only just recovered enough for surgery by then.
I did not have radiation. I would have needed it if I had a lumpectomy but I had the bmx instead.
When I was explaining my chemo side effects to my sister she told me it sounded a lot like being pregnant. I disagree. I had chemo for four months, dry heaved for a day, and have slept well since it ended. She was pregnant for nine months, vomited daily for three of them, and hasn't slept since her first kid was born.
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WC3 your chemo was 4 months? Did you have to do the Herceptin for a full year? I also have a friend who compares chemo to a pregnancy. I felt irritated by what she said. I never looked at with your perspective which is so good. I sure it was scary and difficult to have to wait a little longer for your surgery. You have been through so much! Even though not great circumstances I am glad you did not have to have radiation.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. Healing peace for you. That you never again have to deal with this lousy disease.
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Hi Cricutcat, welcome and I'm so sorry for your diagnosis.
I had 2 diagnosis. My first diagnosis was on my right breast it was ER+, PR+, HER2-. I was going to be able to have a lumpectomy with no chemo. Then I had an MRI on my left breast to make sure we weren't missing anything. I had very dense tissue in my left breast. It detected a mass that wasn't picked up by mammogram. It was ER+, PR+, HER2+. With that diagnosis, since I was HER2+ that changed everything. I would need chemo.I had a mass and pre-cancerous calcifications in my right breast and a mass and a group of pre-cancerous nodules in my left breast. With all of that going on I chose to have a bilateral mastectomy. My breast surgeon agreed totally with my decision. I met with the radiation doctor before my surgery. I wouldn't know if I needed radiation until after surgery. As it turned out I didn't need it, thankfully.
I did 6 cycles of chemo. I had my surgery after that followed by 12 rounds of Herceptin. I was very lucky during chemo. I had nausea but never got sick. I had fatigue. I had chemo on Fridays and I would take Friday and Monday off from work. I found I needed the following Monday for a rest day. I was terribly fatigued by Sunday and Monday. I had trouble with my right eye. It ran and was cloudy alot. The doctor gave me drops for it which did help. I also had a continuously runny nose, which is still happening . I had trouble with constipation so the doctor gave me stool softeners. And of course, I lost my hair. I started my chemo the end of April and finished the beginning of Aug.
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Hi Oceanbum,
I am so sorry about your cancer. I feel terrible that you had to go through so much. I hope you are better now and cancer free. Thank you for sharing all you endured with me. I am going to try and make peace about my need for chemotherapy. I really want to be brave like you and all the other ladies I have met so far in this group.
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Cricutcat:
I had 6 infusions, which was supposed to be once every three weeks but after the third became every 4 weeks, so it took about 4 months.
I do have to do Herceptin for about another year. I have heard some places give post chemo Herceptin for 6 months though. I am also on Perjeta still.
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Hello Cricutcat
Sorry you've had to join us but...you've come to the right place.
Seven years ago, in January 2012, I had Her2+ grade 3 breast cancer. I had the whole caboodle treatment (see signature) and am doing fine. Why not you?
Best wishes
Alice x
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Thanks Cricutcat. You will be amazed at the strength you find when you need it most.
I forgot a couple of things I had during chemo. I was so hoarse. Most often I nearly lost my voice. But it would get better a couple of weeks after chemo. And heartburn. I was on Prilosec which helped a lot. But I couldn't eat tomato based foods or I had horrible heartburn. The nausea meds they gave me helped.
I wish you peace & strength with your decisions. You will know what's best for you. Hugs to you.
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Thank you Oceanbum for making me aware of other side effects you experienced. I sure hope the collection of side effects disappear after treatment is over. I say bless you and all the others who have gone through so much to manage this awful disease. I really appreciate your kind thoughts. Healing hugs to you.
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Hi Alicethecat2,
That is so great that your cancer is gone! You have been well and free of cancer for seven years? I know everyone's experience with cancer is different, I hope I can say the same someday soon. I appreciate all the strength I have already received from this group and it has only been a few days. I feel less afraid. Thank you Alicethecat2. Positive thoughts to you.
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Good morning Cricutcat!
Yes, I am feeling well. No sign of the side effects remains since finishing chemo. Other than the runny nose. I no longer need to take the Prilosec or stool softeners. The only meds I need to take is Arimidex and I take calcium, magnesium and my migraine meds. I also take melatonin to help with sleep. Other than that I am off all of the chemo drugs I took to help with side effects!!
I am cancer free and enjoying life!! Me & my hubby have been able to return to riding the motorcycle. I missed that SO much!! I couldn't ride during chemo - I was too unsteady. So we're back on the bike!! We bought a convertible while I was in chemo so I could still enjoy the wind in my face. We discovered we enjoyed it just as much. So we are enjoying traveling in it. We have started going out more with friends. We are enjoying life as much as we can!! I have my first grandson who I am spoiling as much as possible!!
You will get there!! As my signature line says and I now live by - Sometimes we're tested not to show our weaknesses, but to discover our strengths. I didn't know how strong I was until I looked cancer in the eye and kicked it's butt!!
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Good morning to you Oceanbum,
Your story has made me cry. I am so glad you kicked cancer's ass. It is heartwarming to know you are done with chemo and you have your life back and are enjoying it on your terms. Congratulations on your grandson! With your screen name being Oceanbum, I hope you live by the ocean and are enjoying that as well. I hope I will be able to dig up some strength. My husband is my rock. He has such a positive attitude, hoping after I get a definite treatment plan from the oncologist next week, that will make me feel more in control and let me muster up the energy to work on getting well. I just want to move past this phase of helplessness and wanting to hide under my bed.
Thank you again Oceanbum, for sharing and showing me there can be light at the end of the tunnel. xx
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This is a necklace I have and wear, and it's pretty much how I feel about my breast cancer fight. It's been nearly 5 years now and so far everything is going good. The thought of chemo scared me too, but I actually did very well during it all. You'll make it too!

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